Black/Multiracial women in "White" sororities

[prettydeltagirl]

In all actuality canadiandeltagirl is right. I am an American and have lived here for 24 years and this is the most racist nation of all. Please do not get offended by her comments it is so true. Everything is Black or White. She do not have to live here to know that. This country is supposed to be the greatest nation. The land of the free etc. etc. BUT we all know thats bullshit. The reality is that the color of your skin still matters all most as much as it did in the 60's. I live in Indiana. Right now we have been fighting the KKK for a year to try and keep them from rallying in Gary Indiana. Gary Indiana! You tell me WHY on Earth would they want to rally there unless to start some shit. See only in America does the government defend a bunch of racist sick assholes. Riots going on in Ohio because of senseless killings of young Black Men! Chicago was determined to be the most segregated city in the U.S. Valpraiso,In which is about 30 min away from me just had TWO cross burnings on peoples lawns. One house was spray painted full of racist grafitti! In the city I live in TWO houses were spray painted with nigger and jew something on it. Racial Profiling is bigger than ever! This country is fighting to keep Equal Opportunity laws, why? I mean if this was not a racist country why would you even need laws like that? Why affirmative action you know why folks, because America is the land of the racist! On every level in every race.
In America there are people who are racist against their own race. I know a BLACK woman who stated that she did not want to live around any Black people because they are trifling. A white woman said she would NEVER date a white man. What is that?please. America is home to me but I would never deny the fact that its one racist ass country.

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[ZChi4Life]

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Girl, that is SOOOO funny!!! Where did you get that!?

Yes, I agree! John, please close this bad boy down!

Originally posted by ZChi4Life:
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Girl, that is SOOOO funny!!! Where did you get that!?

Yes, I agree! John, please close this bad boy down!

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[TRUBLUBU2]

Wow--that's strange--suddenly there's a great desire to close down this topic because several individuals have posted their personal truths. Uncomfortable facts, but nonetheless true.

Why is that? Would it be better if we went back to talking about shiny, happy, things such as shopping, or sports, or sorority girl "necessities"?

If we're going to tell canadiandeltagirl about how great this country is, and about its tenets of freedom and justice and free speech, how can we display the exact opposite in our words/actions?

Suddenly there's a hue and cry to shut down the board because someone's post disturbed the sense of contentment/complacency. Shouldn't everyone get a chance to have their say--be it good, bad, ugly or in between?

Signed,
Someone posting from the "land of the free and the home of the BRAVE..."


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Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, Inc.
~~Univ of Okla., FA'91~~
Rho Eta Zeta, AACO, MD

[IowaHawkeye]

I have no problem with people voicing their opinions - in fact i rejoice in it - i wouldn't want to be a lawyer and defend he constitution and every right that comes with it if i didn't. i am a firm believer and supporter of the aclu - however, if a person cannot voice their opinion wth some class, respect, and proper language, i do have a problem. intelligent posts of views different than my own earn respect and admiration... posts that are full of improper language imply thoughtlessnes to me.

[TRUBLUBU2]

agreed, iowa hawkeye, but here's my question: you said,

"...posts that are full of improper language imply thoughtlessnes to me."

maybe i missed it, but where was the improper language?


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Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, Inc.
~~Univ. of Okla., FA'91~~
Rho Eta Zeta, AACO, MD

[VctoriasSecrt]

laughing in my boots yet again ...mf's act like i am the ONLY "chick" in the world that is dramatic on occasion...whew...where is the love...where is the luh uh uv...where is the luh uv...where is the luh uh uv...

you should join the sorority you feel you can best vibe in and not feel like you have to put out a "hit" on every member of that particular organization you meet... have fantasies of slashing tires...keying their nice shiny cars that so elegantly hold letter plates...running up to them on the lawn and just snatching an article off em...like a hat or key chain or maybe hell...just snatch their jacket right quick...oh, um, i had a digression...never mind that... where do those evil thoughts come from...tick...tick...tick...



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[AXO Alum]

Originally posted by lovelyivy84:
...white folks up there are JUST as racist IF NOT MORE than they are in the US. White people there just don't talk about it.

Ummm...just to note that racism is a two-way street - it can hit you coming and going, and its not just a white thing! But we've been through this whole thing again....what is the saying from MandingoNupe?? I think its something about the horse being dead and stinkin'!

[Ideal08]

Originally posted by HeidiHo:
Anyone who watches the news would realize that there are not riots in Ohio (Cincinnati)right now. The headline says "City calm after indictment" It's even a headline on national news.
Heidi http://enquirer.com/editions/2001/05...dicted_on.html

What difference does it make if they are not going on RIGHT now? The fact still remains: They were rioting over the SENSELESS killing of an UNARMED BLACK man.

[AKA2D '91]

Originally posted by TRUBLUBU2:
agreed, iowa hawkeye, but here's my question: you said,

"...posts that are full of improper language imply thoughtlessnes to me."

maybe i missed it, but where was the improper language?

I had nothing to say, just wanted to give a shout out to FALL 1991

That's all!

[ZChi4Life]

Originally posted by PhoenixGrad:
While I see a great deal on this page about White women in traditionally Black sororities, there is little discussion about minority women who join NPC organizations? I know many campus, this is frowned upon and minority women who do pledge "White" sororities are often mistreated and ostracized by other minorities on campus. Why?

The above is the original intent of this post.
In my opinion, I don't think people are answering this or debating about this any longer on the last couple of pages. That is why I think it should be shut down.
I have no problem debating about how the U.S is or is not racist...let's do it! Let's start a new thread! However, this thread is NOT the place for it. It is off the subject in my opinion.
However, if we want to get back to the topic at hand, cool. Let's do that too and we can keep this open for discussion. I just have a big problem when topics get off the subject like this. To me, it's gone WAY off task. I don't mind a tangent or two, but bring it back people! Bring it back! That's all I'm saying.
peace

[DisNDat]

Originally posted by prettydeltagirl:
In all actuality canadiandeltagirl is right. I am an American and have lived here for 24 years and this is the most racist nation of all. Please do not get offended by her comments it is so true. Everything is Black or White. She do not have to live here to know that. This country is supposed to be the greatest nation. The land of the free etc. etc. BUT we all know thats bullshit. The reality is that the color of your skin still matters all most as much as it did in the 60's. I live in Indiana. Right now we have been fighting the KKK for a year to try and keep them from rallying in Gary Indiana. Gary Indiana! You tell me WHY on Earth would they want to rally there unless to start some shit. See only in America does the government defend a bunch of racist sick assholes. Riots going on in Ohio because of senseless killings of young Black Men! Chicago was determined to be the most segregated city in the U.S. Valpraiso,In which is about 30 min away from me just had TWO cross burnings on peoples lawns. One house was spray painted full of racist grafitti! In the city I live in TWO houses were spray painted with nigger and jew something on it. Racial Profiling is bigger than ever! This country is fighting to keep Equal Opportunity laws, why? I mean if this was not a racist country why would you even need laws like that? Why affirmative action you know why folks, because America is the land of the racist! On every level in every race.
In America there are people who are racist against their own race. I know a BLACK woman who stated that she did not want to live around any Black people because they are trifling. A white woman said she would NEVER date a white man. What is that?please. America is home to me but I would never deny the fact that its one racist ass country.

Well, if you don't like it...just move to another country (like if life would be better). If not, leave Indiana...no one is FORCING you to live there...home of the FREE, remember? I have read a number of your posts...you seem to be a bitter person and extremely negative. Instead of complaining, why don't you try to make something out of it or try to change things? Only people like you complain...the same people who are ungrateful for what they have in this country and who take everything for granted. Did you ever stop to think how it would be like living in Iraq? Bosnia? India? Pakistan? Where war is all you see everyday and any second you may get bombed? No, of course not. So keep complaining, you're only making your life miserable and shorter.

[AKA2D '91]

ask the media...

I apologize moderator(s)... I know the "issue at hand" and I didn't help with this remark. I just couldn't help myself.

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[AlphaChiGirl]

One often forgets how good we have it here in America. Yes, America is racist. I will be the first to admit that. We must keep in mind that because of freedom of the press, situations like what caused the (NOW OVER!) Cincinatti riots--things that happen in other nations ALL THE TIME--aren't really covered in other nations because the governments usually keep such a tight grip on the media. As someone who has actually had the OPPORTUNITY to live in other nations--I know exactly how good we have it here in America...and don't forget it! One of the freedoms I have and exercise is the right to join any sorority I'd like--and if anyone insults me or has issues with that...they know where they can go.

BACK TO THE ORIGINAL TOPIC...I sincerely hope no one is losing sleep over a person's decision to rush a sorority that may not be predominately the same race, because life isn't worth it. The important thing is finding the group of people with whom you feel most comfortable and with whom you feel YOU CAN MAKE THE MOST IMPACT IN YOUR RESPECTIVE COMMUNITY.

I read the article about the girl at UA who didn't get a bid during Rush. I'm surprised no one had anything to say about that, I guess it was overlooked. So...what does everyone think about that? In 2000, a black female at the University of Alabama does not make it to the second round of Rush--which is rare, even in a Greek system like Alabama's--keeping the NPC/NIC system at UA totally white. Just a little reminder of how far we have to go. It's interesting to me how she's still considering joining an NPHC group after all this publicity regarding her struggle to join an NPC sorority.

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