Cover Causes Controversy

[tunatartare]

Originally Posted by ZTAMiami

Hey, why the need for a personal attack and make assumptions about my life? Nothing you said was near the truth. And why are you trying to justify your decisions? Second guessing yourself much?

BTW, housework can be done while wearing your baby, fyi.

Oh yes. There is nothing healthier for a baby than to be hanging off mommy's chest while she dusts.

[PenguinTrax]

Originally Posted by KLPDaisy

Oh yes. There is nothing healthier for a baby than to be hanging off mommy's chest while she dusts.

Babies don't 'hang off mommy's chest' in a sling, only in one of those Baby Bjorn thingys (which are horrible for baby's hips and pelvis, btw). In fact, in a sling they can be fully protected from dust in the air and sleep through whole-house vacuuming and more. When older, babies and children can be slung on the back, placing them even further away from dust and grime.

Educate yourself first, don't judge.

http://www.mayawrap.com/p_mayawrap.php

[ZTAMiami]

Originally Posted by PenguinTrax

I'm sorry AlphaFrog, but I disagree. I worked MORE than fulltime, took care of a large home and stayed active in many volunteer activities and my son never spent a minute in a swing and was never in a car seat longer than it took to transport him from point a to point b (unless he was already asleep). I am not independently wealthy, did not have a live-in maid or anything of the sort. And, for the record, neither does ZTAMiami. It was a struggle for her, financially and otherwise, to stay home with her child. You do what works for you...obviously the lifestyle ZTA Miami described is not your choice and that is fine. As my mother says, that is why there is chocolate and vanilla, so that everyone can have a choice.

This thread was a discussion on the magazine cover and has now devolved into people scorning others for the parenting choices they have made. That is sad.

Thanks Barbara.
BTW everyone, when I got pregnant with my daughter I was and still am the first one in my circle of friends. Barbara is the one who "took me under her wing" per say and open my eyes to a different (or ancient) way of viewing pregnancy, birth and parenting. Her help has been an invaluable resource to me, my husband and my daughter. And we had never even met as she lives on the other side of the state Now that is one beautiful sister!

[33girl]

OK, all I can visualize if I had a baby in one of those and I was scrubbing the tub is baby flying out, into the tub and cracking his/her head open. Cause I have hard water and crappy tub stains.

[Marie]

Originally Posted by ZTAMiami

BTW, housework can be done while wearing your baby, fyi.

Yeah, that's always fun...scrubbing the toilette w/Clorox Bleach while your baby inhales all of that good healty aroma.

For the record...I don't really care what you or AlphaFrog or anyone else does. Like, I said...you should do what works for you. However, if someone does something different that does not necessarily mean that it is not just as good, not required by circumstance, they don't love or want to bond with their child. It's just different, and unless it is worthy of calling child and family services over, then keep your judgements to yourself. If you don't want to use a bouncer, or interactive play system, or bottles, or pacifiers, or backpack/carrier/sling (which arguably was created so that women wouldn't have to actually hold their baby - according to your logic), then don't. However, it is not your place to make a judgement on someone else who does.

[PenguinTrax]

Originally Posted by 33girl

OK, all I can visualize if I had a baby in one of those and I was scrubbing the tub is baby flying out, into the tub and cracking his/her head open. Cause I have hard water and crappy tub stains.

ROFLMAO! Yes, there are some things you shouldn't do while wearing your baby - agreed!!!

Things you should't do when wearing your baby:

cleaning the tub
cooking
driving
skateboarding
carpentry

[Marie]

Originally Posted by PenguinTrax

That's why they make nursing tops - so that mothers can feed discretely. It's easy to say 'throw a blanket on for coverage' until you've actually had to do this and you are faced with a squirming bundle that is more interested in tossing off the blanket than nursing (and you are leaking milk everywhere to boot). I gave up after the first attempt and spent a small fortune on nursing tops, dresses and appropriate undergarments. I was never once asked to cover up or leave a room.

That is why I added in 'or something similar'. Whatever works for you

[Drolefille]

participate in the X-games
sniff glue
breakdancing

[valkyrie]

Originally Posted by ZTAMiami

What a anti-child society we have become. People are disturbed by a babies cry, laugh, sight.

Where is this anti-child society of which you speak?

[Taualumna]

Originally Posted by valkyrie

Where is this anti-child society of which you speak?

Exactly. I think we've become MORE child tolerant. Movie theatres did not have mommy and baby showings when I was a kid!

[DeltAlum]

Originally Posted by Marie

(which arguably was created so that women wouldn't have to actually hold their baby - according to your logic), then don't.

The reason for the front pack and the sling is to carry the baby with her/his head close to the mother or fathers chest so that the baby can hear the parents heartbeat, which is comforting to the baby since that is basically what it heard in the womb.

The backpack is a simple convenience so that the baby can be taken along on hikes or other places where a stroller won't work.

I hope you didn't mean it to be, but I found your comment to sound pretty snide.

[Tom Earp]

Oh heck DA the s==t is going to hit the fan now!

I just wonder how many posters of the thread every ah had Children?

But, there seems to be alot who know more than parents.

[ZTAMiami]

Originally Posted by valkyrie

Where is this anti-child society of which you speak?

Read my response above.

Maybe a lot of you don't see it, because you are not looking for it. I never noticed before I had my daughter.

[Marie]

Originally Posted by DeltAlum

The reason for the front pack and the sling is to carry the baby with her/his head close to the mother or fathers chest so that the baby can hear the parents heartbeat, which is comforting to the baby since that is basically what it heard in the womb.

The backpack is a simple convenience so that the baby can be taken along on hikes or other places where a stroller won't work.

I hope you didn't mean it to be, but I found your comment to sound pretty snide.

*Le sigh* I meant for it to sound just the same way that ZTAMiami's comments sounded regarding the many devices that she listed which are clearly not meant to separate mother from child. Of course the sling isn't made so that women don't have to hold their children. Just like bottles obviously aren't made to end or interrupt the process of breastfeeding. If my comments injured you in anyway, then go home and hang out w/the family. I'm sure you'll feel 100% better after only a few mins. Cheers!

[valkyrie]

Originally Posted by ZTAMiami

Read my response above.

Maybe a lot of you don't see it, because you are not looking for it. I never noticed before I had my daughter.

Eh, I think there are many ways in which our society is overly child-centric. I suppose there's good and bad on both sides of the issue, but I have yet to see anything I'd call anti-child. I think people who are all gung ho against breastfeeding are probably just puritanical weirdos who have issues and are freaked out by breasts -- not really anti-child.

Hell, I don't like small children or babies AT ALL, but as long as they don't overly interfere with my life, I really don't care.