Do you know other GLOs' secret info?

[valkyrie]

I have to laugh when I hear people say that they don't want to know any secret information from other organizations. Personally, I think it would be fascinating to learn about the rituals of any organizations, but I don't really know how to do it.

[wptw]

Originally posted by AXOKatie
well thanks wptw for posting that even when i said that i didn't want to

Well, your reluctance to post it was based on the possibility that the 2 were similar and that if so, a member of one org could then intuit something about the other. But they're not similar, so I figured it was OK. Plus, it's right there in Baird's.

I do wonder why the fraternity men were so eager to help the women organize their sororities. Perhaps fantastic stories of pillow fights and slumber parties had begun to circulate from other colleges, and the guys were staking their claim to a front row seat?

wptw

[AXOKatie]

Originally posted by wptw
I do wonder why the fraternity men were so eager to help the women organize their sororities. Perhaps fantastic stories of pillow fights and slumber parties had begun to circulate from other colleges, and the guys were staking their claim to a front row seat?

wptw

Either that, or the women nagged them so much that they had to acquiesce we're sneaky like that

[DolphinChicaDDD]

Originally posted by valkyrie
I have to laugh when I hear people say that they don't want to know any secret information from other organizations. Personally, I think it would be fascinating to learn about the rituals of any organizations, but I don't really know how to do it.

I'm with you on that thought. I think it would be fascinating to know how something like the same letter was used in different was (ie. the delta in DZ vs the delta in Tri Delta) or symbols. Likewise, I would like to see how ritual varies(with regard to sororities) with men or women who wrote the rituals. Same with time.

Its more of a curiosity/respect thing than running around announcing "I KNOW YOUR RITUAL."

[Tom Earp]

wptw, I think the above posters said it all!

Male wants to help the Female!

Women nagged so much that they decided to attempt to try and help!

No flaming required thank you!

What is funny, I have asked many Wives of Brothers of my Chapter what they thought of the Ritual! DAH, boy did I get the same answer, "Are You Kidding"!

I am sure that Our Each Ritual is Precious to all of us.

It is mine, I worked for it.

You worked for yours, Mine is important to me and yours is important to you.

Only way to fly!

[Richard(SNU)]

Well, when most of the NIC Fraternities and NPC Sororities were
founded, the founders seemed to draw a lot from secret societies like
Masonry and the Rosicrucians, and of course the literary and honor
societies that were the first true GLO's. Over the years there have
been confidential studies conducted by the NIC and NPC which confirm
what I just said.

What the founders didn't anticipate was the social aspect that came
along with advent of coeducation, the idea of "Greek Systems" and
social customs like pinnings, serenades, etc. I think if some of the
founders could get in a time machine and travel to a modern college
campus, they'd be pretty shocked at what happened to the rituals they
so carefully designed and passed on as something sacred. I mean, a
Fraternity pin, on a woman? You gotta be kidding, right?

Anyways the rituals aren't really what's important. It's all about
how you feel when you are going through it. The secrecy is there not
to protect the information, or even the organization, but to protect
you. There have been millions of initiates into GLO's over the past
two-hundred-plus years, but it's a fresh and new experience every time
it happens to an undergrad. The only real justification for secrecy
is to preserve the freshness of the experience for each new generation
of initiates. And GLO's like Delta Upsilon have shown that even that
isn't really necessary (I'm surprised no DY's have been in this thread
as far as I can tell).

So, blabbing something to your boyfriend or girlfriend, or even to a
close friend who happens to be in a different GLO isn't really all
that bad. I think we've all done stuff like that at least once or
twice. Just don't disrespect the ritual in front of a pledge. Shame
on anyone who does THAT.

OK I'm off the soapbox now...

[33girl]

Originally posted by Iconoclastic
Where is Tabitha?

With Darrin, Samantha and Aunt Clara, no doubt.

[Kevin]

Originally posted by Iconoclastic
I have acquired quite a few rituals. My whole and sole purpose is to shed Biblical light on them. That is it, plain and simple. Some have patron gods and goddesses, some do not. Some have oaths almost identical to masonic oaths, some do not. Some have degrees of initiation like masonic orders, and some do not. I have acquired a couple of jaw-droppers. Those rituals that make you say, is Merlin present? Where is Tabitha? or for anyone who has seen, Revelation, "Let the day of wonders begin" scene. If there was anything in common with all, the ritual is the tie that binds.

That last part -- it's the tie that binds... That essentially sums it up. I spent 3 years as a colonist, never having sat all the way through ritual, not even really knowing what my organization was about (but having some vague idea).

What Richard there says is absolutely on point. When I was initiated, it was a truly great experience. It all kind of "came together" and I felt that I was finally a full member of the organization.

Icon, it's not a religious experience -- although, there are certainly elements of Christianity in my ritual, it's first and foremost an excercise in brotherhood.

[piphiarrow234]

i think that people are overlooking the point here, yes i know a few others secrets, but they dont mean anything to me, I can know someone elses handshake, meaning of letters, but you dont really Know untill you experience everythign that they come with, you can know EVERYTHing in a Fraternaty/sorority's ritual but you dont understand the experiences that make those words moving and impact your life

[ms_gwyn]

i tried to not post on this thread but I'm going anyway.

No I dont know any GLOs secrets, privileged information (I like to call them mysteries, and yes I know that I’m a geek ) or the like.

But to be perfectly honest I'm curious (collective gasping). But not for the information that you might think.

What I'm curious about is the pagentry/theatrics used in these rituals..."production design" if you will. What are the specific components used...ie symbolic jouney, signing the chapter roll, etc. What type of music is used (not lyrics, just the music)

I actually wouldn't want to know the secret meaning of the letters, the grip, handshakes, but they would mean nothing to me because I'm not a member.

[kappa2]

I don't know how other GLOs handled it, but at my chapter, we had a "fake" excuse for what our badge meant, our letters, etc. We even had a fake ritual book-that was stolen twice! It was really funny to read after you knew what the real deal was after initiation, but as pledges we had heard all the fake stuff from various people (often drunk) and we thought we knew what everything meant. BTW, did you know that the Kappa key represents the Key to the Kingdom of Heaven? ;-) ha ha ha....

[LuvUTrulyKKG]

Originally posted by kappa2
BTW, did you know that the Kappa key represents the Key to the Kingdom of Heaven? ;-) ha ha ha....

Kappa2 --- that is great!! I would love to hear the other things your chapter came up with! (PM me sometime) I bet that ritual book is a hoot!!

[TrueBlueKappa]

Originally posted by kappa2
I don't know how other GLOs handled it, but at my chapter, we had a "fake" excuse for what our badge meant, our letters, etc. We even had a fake ritual book-that was stolen twice! It was really funny to read after you knew what the real deal was after initiation, but as pledges we had heard all the fake stuff from various people (often drunk) and we thought we knew what everything meant. BTW, did you know that the Kappa key represents the Key to the Kingdom of Heaven? ;-) ha ha ha....

Originally posted by LuvUTrulyKKG
Kappa2 --- that is great!! I would love to hear the other things your chapter came up with! (PM me sometime) I bet that ritual book is a hoot!!

I'd love to hear all about it as well!

[IowaStatePhiPsi]

The fraternity that was renting out our chapterhouse while our chapter was closed for the last 5 years didnt have all their stuff moved out when we did a walk-through of the structure to see the devestation left from their stay in the house...

There was an open crate in one of the rooms that contained all the items used in their rituals- skulls, spears, swords, bones, chalices, chains, and more.

I have no clue what the purpose of the items are but I know what all is used and I feel that's more than I care to know about that particular fraternity.

[kappa2]

TrueBlue and IluvU-I'll have to PM you, as I am SURE that other people still believe the lies are real-if the book "pledged" is any indication! Actually, the fake ritual book looks in many ways like the authentic one, just with different things inside. I have seen one other kappa chapters' fake ritual book too, so it often makes me wonder when any GLO ritual book comes up on ebay and sells for thousands of dollars if someone just made a quick buck!