Latino Greek Letter Organizations

[preciousjeni]

Originally posted by brownsugar952
I read some people say that some sororities that claim to be multicultural aren't really multicultural. What is that based on? Is it the membership or the programming? It wouldn't be fair for us to judge their sorority based on the pictures they post. Couldn't a sorority that is a majority one race but they do multicultural programming be a "real" multicultural sorority?

Girl - this is the problem we've been hashing it out over. If your membership and programming is geared toward one culture, but in name you are multicultural, how does that make any sense? It's like me looking like a woman and sounding like a woman but telling everyone to call me Mr. preciousjeni. It confuses potential members (not to mention all the other Greeks out there who are trying to understand the multicultural phenomenon.)

I really think that a lot of people have founderitis. I personally would give much more respect to someone who founded a chapter of an established sorority than someone who founded their own sorority. I REFUSE to believe that someone couldn't find what they were looking for out of ALL of those sororities. To me it just makes them look too lazy to research what is already out there and putting the time and work into expanding another sorority. It's kind of self-serving...

I agree with the "too lazy" sentiment. When people have come onto GC talking about founding a multicultural sorority, I often PM them to offer them links to some of the larger MC orgs - to help them along the way. Without fail, they are totally surprised at the selection.

By the way y'all - that list I gave was JUST sororities! There are still fraternities out there!!

[rocketgirl]

Originally posted by brownsugar952
It would be crazier if we listed all of the multicultural sororities that actually died out within the first 2-3 years of existing.

I read some people say that some sororities that claim to be multicultural aren't really multicultural. What is that based on? Is it the membership or the programming? It wouldn't be fair for us to judge their sorority based on the pictures they post. Couldn't a sorority that is a majority one race but they do multicultural programming be a "real" multicultural sorority?

I really think that a lot of people have founderitis. I personally would give much more respect to someone who founded a chapter of an established sorority than someone who founded their own sorority. I REFUSE to believe that someone couldn't find what they were looking for out of ALL of those sororities. To me it just makes them look too lazy to research what is already out there and putting the time and work into expanding another sorority. It's kind of self-serving...

I think with the multicultural vs. not issue...well it's confusing for everyone involved. You have some organizations that are multicultural in membership and programming. Those are the ones generally considered multicultural by their members and by the general population. The confusion is an organization who is geared towards a particular culture and their history is towards that culture, then how can they claim multicultural, especially since nobody was claiming multicultural until the recent growth and popularity of true multicultural organizations.


I agree with the founderitis issue. There are sooooo many organizations and I can't imagine that there isn't an organization already in existance for them. I agree with the self-serving issue...I think people just want to pick their own colors and be called founders.

[preciousjeni]

Originally posted by rocketgirl
The confusion is an organization who is geared towards a particular culture and their history is towards that culture, then how can they claim multicultural, especially since nobody was claiming multicultural until the recent growth and popularity of true multicultural organizations.

HUGE Co-sign on that!

[PhoenixAzul]

Originally posted by kddani
I have to totally agree with you there. Not even within the Latino GLOs, but GLOs in general. We get dozens and dozens of poster every year posting here for the first time asking: how do I create my own GLO? And they insist up and down that no other group has what they want, but they've only looked at a few orgs, or just even at the other chapters on their campus. Or just within their own governing body. Hey, if NPC doesn't have a group you think is right for you, what about the many other groups out there?

If they're too lazy to take the time into educating themselves, there's no way that they're going to be able to start a GLO themselves. Founding a GLO is NOT for the lazy!

But at the same time, how many of the NPC and other organizations were founded because there was a part of the collegiate female population that DIDN'T fit with the recognized organizations? That's not to say that the 21 different organizations aren't fabulous, they are, but as culture and time changes, some may fall by the wayside, and others might come forward as a new and innovative society. I agree that immediately saying that there isn't one out there for you is hastey, but discouraging a founding may discourage the next great sorority.

Tau Delta was supposed to be something completely different (and if I told you, I'd have to kill you), but when the rechartering happened in 85, we found that out of the 2 sororities that could be reestabilished, Tau Delta fit our founder's ideals the most. So we had the best of both worlds..something with a basis in history and alumn support, and something that could be updated to reflect the new culture on campus (differred rush, one rush period only, anti-hazing, diversity,etc.) and the personalities of our founders. You just never know.

[rocketgirl]

Originally posted by PhoenixAzul
But at the same time, how many of the NPC and other organizations were founded because there was a part of the collegiate female population that DIDN'T fit with the recognized organizations? That's not to say that the 21 different organizations aren't fabulous, they are, but as culture and time changes, some may fall by the wayside, and others might come forward as a new and innovative society.

I'm don't think there should only be one multicultural sorority or one NPC organization or one NPHC organization.

But what I am saying is that why over the course of less than 20 years have we developed over 40 organizations that state that they are multicultural. Yes change occurs and yes people do have different goals, but I can't believe that over 40 orgs are necessary.

The other thing that is such a bother....how come some of these orgs have very strangely similar colors, purposes, ect to the larger more established multicultural organizations. If you want to be your own org because you don't like what we do, that's fine, but be your OWN org...don't bite.

[brownsugar952]

Originally posted by PhoenixAzul
But at the same time, how many of the NPC and other organizations were founded because there was a part of the collegiate female population that DIDN'T fit with the recognized organizations? That's not to say that the 21 different organizations aren't fabulous, they are, but as culture and time changes, some may fall by the wayside, and others might come forward as a new and innovative society. I agree that immediately saying that there isn't one out there for you is hastey, but discouraging a founding may discourage the next great sorority.

Tau Delta was supposed to be something completely different (and if I told you, I'd have to kill you), but when the rechartering happened in 85, we found that out of the 2 sororities that could be reestabilished, Tau Delta fit our founder's ideals the most. So we had the best of both worlds..something with a basis in history and alumn support, and something that could be updated to reflect the new culture on campus (differred rush, one rush period only, anti-hazing, diversity,etc.) and the personalities of our founders. You just never know.

I understand what your saying, but all of the panhel sororities were started before the internet boom. It makes no sense that people would think to start a sorority without throughly researching what is actually out there. I would bet anyone that just like preciousjeni said, most people who want to start another org didn't take the time to properly research all that is out there. Some stop at one or two and assume they can do it better than someone else.

Also panhel sororities appeal more to the "majority" of the population. When you create a multicultural or minority organization, you are only going to have interest from a small part of the university's population. Most universities can sustain 5 or 6 panhel sororities, but how many can sustain 5 or 6 multicultural sororities? Some can't even sustain one. I don't understand why people won't try to join forces so they can make an established sorority stronger...

[preciousjeni]

Originally posted by brownsugar952
Also panhel sororities appeal more to the "majority" of the population. When you create a multicultural or minority organization, you are only going to have interest from a small part of the university's population.

Good point

[preciousjeni]

Originally posted by rocketgirl
how come some of these orgs have very strangely similar colors, purposes, ect to the larger more established multicultural organizations. If you want to be your own org because you don't like what we do, that's fine, but be your OWN org...don't bite.

Bwahahahahahahahahaha!! So true!

[rant]

To all the new orgs, please follow this advice. It is bad for Greek relations when you COPY ENTIRE SECTIONS OF WEBSITES and steal elements that clearly belong to another organization...

Mmmhmm...

And then ya take the open perp of another org into your fold and make that perpson president of a chapter. Not a wise move.

UGH!

[/rant]

[rocketgirl]

Originally posted by brownsugar952


Also panhel sororities appeal more to the "majority" of the population. When you create a multicultural or minority organization, you are only going to have interest from a small part of the university's population. Most universities can sustain 5 or 6 panhel sororities, but how many can sustain 5 or 6 multicultural sororities? Some can't even sustain one. I don't understand why people won't try to join forces so they can make an established sorority stronger...

Oh soooo true. I mean just look at rush. I went to Michigan where NPC rush had probably over 1000 girls. If you added all the MGC and NPHC greeks on our campus, male and female, who attempted to rush, you have about 100 people. Now when I say MGC, I'm talking about Asian, Latina/o, and multicultural and a total of 15 organizations between the two councils.

iAlso, for multicultural orgs, because we're so young. We don't have women who come to campus as legacies. I know my grandmomma wasn't rollin around talkin about being a Z-Chi.

Anyway....just to close...I agree

Darn those people suffering from founderitis...

[rocketgirl]

Originally posted by preciousjeni
Bwahahahahahahahahaha!! So true!

[rant]

To all the new orgs, please follow this advice. It is bad for Greek relations when you COPY ENTIRE SECTIONS OF WEBSITES and steal elements that clearly belong to another organization...

Mmmhmm...

And then ya take the open perp of another org into your fold and make that perpson president of a chapter. Not a wise move.

UGH!

[/rant]

LMAO...I know what you're talkin about...

...walking to the corner with her own issues....

check ya pm when you get a chance ma'm

[Tom Earp]

Well, maybe one of these days soon there will be a consolidation between all Members of Greek Organizatins.

So, why not start trying to work on that now? Well, maybe it has started becomeing a reallity that you do not know about.

One never knows does one?

[Private I]

Tom could you elaborate please? Do you mean on a nationwide level, as in a collective umbrella for all governing councils? At FSU we have a Greek Activities Council that functions over all 4 councils in attempting to bring them together, but I dont know if you meant something like that or something completely different...

[TotallyWicked]

I'm reviving this thread!

Many people have mentioned about multicultural representation through a Latino org; I go to a predominantly white institution, the Latino population is about 10% with FAR FEWER being Latino males, while our numbers may be small, I know it is nothing compared to schools like Indiana University, Purdue, and the Ivy League Schools (where we have chapters), being that in schools like these the Latino male population is very low (along with the Black male population), do you think people'll take a fraternity (or sorority) seriously if ALL the members of the chapter were White? Or would it be viewed as a mainstream org practicing a philanthropy a Pan Americanism (as an old mainstream fraternity did back in the 1920's and 30's), hopefully this is making sense to all of you, I've just bumped into plenty of folks who go to PWI's with LGLO's on campus and the majority of their members are not Latino, rather African American or white...i guess they [the GDI's] felt they wouldn't be able to understand the culture if they're not fully in it (not going to comment on that right now).

[LTA4]

I don't think it would be a matter of being taken "seriously", because I don't think other Greeks would treat them differently and risk being thought of as racist, and assuming that the racial make-up of the chapter comes from a phenomenon at that school, I would think that other chapters would have similar situations.

I think it would just affect the kind of people that are drawn to the organization at first. I'm sure a few people would be drawn to the novelty of it, and others would avoid it altogether. But again, if this is affecting all of the chapters at that school, then it may not have a major impact on one chapter. Either way, I would hope that people would base their decisions on the national organization and not just the local chapter, which I know that some people do.

I'm pretty sure, however, that this is a very unlikely situation. It's much more likely that the chapter would just go defunct if there was a shortage of that org's "target" group.

[ASTLuxiGX]

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