Deport the Illegals!!

[madmax]

Originally posted by godfrey n. glad
Deporting all the immigrants right now would devastate our economy, pure and simple. It's not possible, and all the conservative, big-business and corporate farm owners would be the first to fight you, tooth and nail Why? Because illegal immigrants are the ones that get the foods from the fields to the warehouses, all for a coupla bucks a day. Illegals are the predominant workforce in CA (in the fields, I mean), the biggest agricultural state in the union (some will be surprised to know). Deporting all immigrants would force corporate farms to hire legal residents/citizens, whom they would have to pay, oh I don't know, about 10x as much, at least minimum wage. So, if you're ready to pay $20 for a gallon of milk, by all means, champion the cause of deporting all illegals. Otheriwse, kappaloo is right, there would need to be some MAJOR changes to the US economy, before we are prepared to take on the burden of paying more for food-related labor. So, not even looking at them as human beings and whether or not they deserve medical attention if they get a limb cut off when using a dangerous piece of farm machinery, tell me: would you rather pay $20 for a gallon of milk, or absorb the costs they put on our system, which we currently pay out? That's just an honest-to-goodness cost/benefit assessment.

I personally am thankful I don't have to pay that much for groceries, because I couldn't afford it if so, so I am not prepared to say all illegal immigrants need to be deported right now. I just don't think it is in our best interests, as US Citizens, trying to make ends meet.

IOW, the US has a vested interest in making sure we have a nice steady supply of illegals to work for us, and people's hatred of illegals, and fear of terrorism will have to butt heads with corporate interests. Ultimately, you can guess who I think will win.

Was our economy devestated before the illegals?

Was our economy defestated in the 50's and 60's? Back in the day when blue collar workers could afford to send their kids to college, own their own home, own a vacation home and retire as millionares?

[AznSAE]

i was in el paso one summer and was driving pretty much right on the border. i saw mexico on one side and the united states on the other. i was like "this is too easy to cross" since there were no patrols.

in my opinion, illegals should not be here. sure they do the jobs most americans dont want, but you still have legal immigrants that dont have jobs and would probably do the work.

[Optimist Prime]

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
I was just curious how GCers feel about deporting illegal aliens. Some say that there is a market here for illegal aliens that do the work Americans don't want to do i.e. fast food, janitorial, etc.. However, some feel that illegals are putting a drain on our educational system, hospitals, legal system etc.

Where do you stand??

Apologies if this has already been discussed. I did a search but did not find the thread.

both sides are terribly misguided. there are so many illegal immigrants crossing the border from Mexico because that country is having a civil war.

I think the U.S. and Canada should work together to bring stability back to North America.

REAL WORLD I KNOW IT WOULD DEVASTATE US FINANCIALLY BUT..........
Living in So california where there is tons upon tons of illegals here i say boot them back home....i have no pity for them and quite honestly I am fed up with them taking everything that we work hard for

I dont agree with them receiving driver lic's----if your not a citizen you dont deserve a lic.

I dont believe in them recieving welfare---why should they recieve it when we have our own living in shelters without a roof over ther heads or medical attention these ILLEGALS are receiving and steeling from our own

i dont believe in educating the children it only gives them more chances to rob our assists and gain stronger footing on our land ....when i was born and raised here and their type get priority Financial aid or priority registration over me and they boost about it....it is a disgrace to our country and disprepectful to our citizens to over look us and give to these ILLEGAL aliens


and lastly.....this is america buddy speak the ENGLISH LANGUAGE or go back home to some fricken country you belong too!


AT THE REQUEST OF A SISTER I RESPECT I CHANGED A TERM i USED AND IT MEANT NO DISPRESPECT TO ANY SISTER OR BROTHER OF ANY GLO ON HERE MOST IMPORANTLY AN ALPHA PHI....I AM NOT RACIST BY ANY MEANS AND TAKE GREAT OFFENSE MYSELF TO YOU WHO CALLED ME THAT AND IF I CONTINUE TO BE CALLED THAT THAN YOU DO NOT KNOW ME AT ALL.

[Munchkin03]

Originally posted by cutiepatootie


and lastly.....this is america buddy speak the ENGLISH LANGUAGE or go back home to some fricken country you belong too!

So, you think you speak English?

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by cutiepatootie


I dont agree with them receiving driver lic's----if your not a citizen you dont deserve a lic.

So you're saying that someone who transfered to the US from, say Australia shouldn't get a driver's licence either? Say they live in the suburbs with their husband/wife and kids and need to get to town to work.

[moe.ron]

Originally posted by cutiepatootie
I dont agree with them receiving driver lic's----if your not a citizen you dont deserve a lic.

What about international students and those legally working in the States (businessmen, diplomats, engineers, etc, etc)?

[Kevin]

In neither of the two above cases would the person likely be illegal. If transferred here for work from Australia, getting a work visa should be relatively easy. If here studying from abroad, you get a student visa which is automatic.

I think what she's objecting to is illegal immigrants that consume our public services without making contributions to them.

[cashmoney]

Originally posted by cutiepatootie
REAL WORLD I KNOW IT WOULD DEVASTATE US FINANCIALLY BUT..........
Living in So california where there is tons upon tons of illegals here i say boot them back home....i have no pity for them and quite honestly I am fed up with them taking everything that we work hard for

I dont agree with them receiving driver lic's----if your not a citizen you dont deserve a lic.

I dont believe in them recieving welfare---why should they recieve it when we have our own living in shelters without a roof over ther heads or medical attention these wetbacks are receiving and steeling from our own

i dont believe in educating the children it only gives them more chances to rob our assists and gain stronger footing on our land ....when i was born and raised here and their type get priority Financial aid or priority registration over me and they boost about it....it is a disgrace to our country and disprepectful to our citizens to over look us and give to these ILLEGAL aliens


and lastly.....this is america buddy speak the ENGLISH LANGUAGE or go back home to some fricken country you belong too!

I feel the same as you.....has anyone been to South Florida lately? Miami mainly? Little Havana isnt even full of Cubans anymore....it's all hondurans and guatamalens. They all seems the same if you're just glancing at them......Most of them need to go back to where they came from. Most of those people don't even have the decency to speak english. And they actually have the nerve to talk shit about you in spanish right there in front of you thinking you don't understand them.

Its kind of like those muslims who go back to pakistan and listen to their sheiks say horrible things and radical ideas about the very country/people that support those idiots and enable them to have a life. Those people come back to the west and next thing you know they all hate us and want to destroy us but LOOOOOOVE making that money here. I say kick their broke asses back in the ocean and if they come here....send them to Gitmo.

[moe.ron]

Originally posted by ktsnake
In neither of the two above cases would the person likely be illegal. If transferred here for work from Australia, getting a work visa should be relatively easy. If here studying from abroad, you get a student visa which is automatic.

I think what she's objecting to is illegal immigrants that consume our public services without making contributions to them.

If she said that an individual illegally in the country dont deserve a license, that's one thing. However, she didn't say that. Her exact word, "if your not a citizen you dont deserve a lic."

[kddani]

how about we just deport the dumb people?

I SAID if you are not a citizen you dont serve a lic( ense) i just abbreiviated-enough said! and i stand by what i said that they dont desrve licenses, welfare , or anything---- they only deserve a one way ticket back home to their own countires

Originally posted by Taualumna
So you're saying that someone who transfered to the US from, say Australia shouldn't get a driver's licence either? Say they live in the suburbs with their husband/wife and kids and need to get to town to work.

No i said if your here illegally
i did not say someone who is here on legitimate businesss who filed proper papers to be here with her husband and kids vs the ones who come over the border from mexico thru cargo tubes crawling over the border etc...... BIg difference and fromthe lloks of it others agree too


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[valkyrie]

Originally posted by cutiepatootie
REAL WORLD I KNOW IT WOULD DEVASTATE US FINANCIALLY BUT..........
Living in So california where there is tons upon tons of illegals here i say boot them back home....i have no pity for them and quite honestly I am fed up with them taking everything that we work hard for

I dont agree with them receiving driver lic's----if your not a citizen you dont deserve a lic.

I dont believe in them recieving welfare---why should they recieve it when we have our own living in shelters without a roof over ther heads or medical attention these wetbacks are receiving and steeling from our own

i dont believe in educating the children it only gives them more chances to rob our assists and gain stronger footing on our land ....when i was born and raised here and their type get priority Financial aid or priority registration over me and they boost about it....it is a disgrace to our country and disprepectful to our citizens to over look us and give to these ILLEGAL aliens


and lastly.....this is america buddy speak the ENGLISH LANGUAGE or go back home to some fricken country you belong too!

Wow. Just wow. I can't believe someone would post something like this. Wetbacks? Are you going to use the "N" word next?

I don't see what jobs people who are in this country illegally take from "us" -- do you want to go do yardwork for 12 hours a day for less than minimum wage? I mean maybe that's your area of expertise so you are missing out on exciting employment opportunities, but I seriously doubt it.

[Munchkin03]

Originally posted by valkyrie
Wow. Just wow. I can't believe someone would post something like this. Wetbacks? Are you going to use the "N" word next?

I don't see what jobs people who are in this country illegally take from "us" -- do you want to go do yardwork for 12 hours a day for less than minimum wage? I mean maybe that's your area of expertise so you are missing out on exciting employment opportunities, but I seriously doubt it.

OH SNAP I didn't even see "wetback." Damn...did someone get into the PCP again?

If speaking English is a requirement for living here...someone's going to be deported soon! Nyah nyah nyah...