Religion vs. sorority/frat

[RedefinedDiva]

The problem that I have with the resurrection of this thread is that it has strayed far from the OP's question. All anyone has to do is answer the question and keep it moving. However, when blanket statements are made about a group of people, which includes me, people are going to take offense. I didn't bother to get heavily involved in the debabte because I saw no use. Everyone will believe, do and say what they want to do in the end.

The bottom line is that I appreciate the opinions of those that tell why they chose not to join GLOs. Congratulations. However, you DO NOT speak for ALL Christians. That's the way YOU see it. Whomever does not feel that Greek life is for them: DO NOT JOIN. Period. Point blank. However, no HUMAN is in the position to tell another whether their soul is in jeopardy, condemned to Hell, or any of the other statements that were made. NO ONE knows another's walk with the Lord. NO ONE knows your soul except the Lord. NO ONE can say anything about your faith. Not many of us know one another on this board past the four corners of our computer screens, so we can't judge what dwells in another's heart.

[teena]

^^Very well said. completely agree

[SKEEphistAKAte]

Originally posted by RedefinedDiva
The problem that I have with the resurrection of this thread is that it has strayed far from the OP's question. All anyone has to do is answer the question and keep it moving. However, when blanket statements are made about a group of people, which includes me, people are going to take offense. I didn't bother to get heavily involved in the debabte because I saw no use. Everyone will believe, do and say what they want to do in the end.

The bottom line is that I appreciate the opinions of those that tell why they chose not to join GLOs. Congratulations. However, you DO NOT speak for ALL Christians. That's the way YOU see it. Whomever does not feel that Greek life is for them: DO NOT JOIN. Period. Point blank. However, no HUMAN is in the position to tell another whether their soul is in jeopardy, condemned to Hell, or any of the other statements that were made. NO ONE knows another's walk with the Lord. NO ONE knows your soul except the Lord. NO ONE can say anything about your faith. Not many of us know one another on this board past the four corners of our computer screens, so we can't judge what dwells in another's heart.

^^ This is why you're my favorite soror-twin With that, I'm done with this thread.

[blackbibleman04]

Hey wussup everybody? Im real new to this so I thought I would just kind of find somewhere to jump in...haha...Anyways I just wanted to give yall some input on what I think about the subject. I think that its totally cool to be "saved" and in a fraternity at the same time, because honestly being in an organization has nothing to do with your walk with Jesus Christ. So I think its totally necesary to be in an organization if you want to as long as its not hurting your walk with Jesus. For example Martin Luther King Jr. was an Alpha and he still was a pastor at a church too!! So thats proof right there. Aight well I'll holla back.

Coleman Maxwell
Men Of God christian fraternity Inc.
Fall of 05
Romans 12:2 line

Gettin krunk since 99'

[focus]

Originally posted by blackbibleman04
I think that its totally cool to be "saved" and in a fraternity at the same time, because honestly being in an organization has nothing to do with your walk with Jesus Christ. So I think its totally necesary to be in an organization if you want to as long as its not hurting your walk with Jesus. For example Martin Luther King Jr. was an Alpha and he still was a pastor at a church too!! So thats proof right there. Aight well I'll holla back.

It is totally cool to be saved and be in a greek org., but the problem occurs when you have to compromise your salvation in order to be in the org (particularly undergrad). For instance, Im sure MLK (the prince of non-violence) wasn't abused while trying to become an Alpha (unless you know otherwise please share). And I pray no one confessing to be Christian agrees that abuse in any form is Christ-like. But make sure you aren't comparing peoples lives as an example to live by. As Christians the bible tells us to model Jesus's life because men make mastakes and fall often (not to say the MLK being greek was his mastake). But again the bible does say not to be bound to unbelievers, and in Greek orgs. you are bound to anyone who is in that org. whether they be buddhist, athiest, or whatever. You can interpret it how you want to, which I am sure many people do, but in order to understand why there is this rift between greek life and religion people should know that.

[RedefinedDiva]

Originally posted by focus
It is totally cool to be saved and be in a greek org., but the problem occurs when you have to compromise your salvation in order to be in the org (particularly undergrad). For instance, Im sure MLK (the prince of non-violence) wasn't abused while trying to become an Alpha (unless you know otherwise please share).

Who is compromising their salvation? Why does it have to be "particularly undergrads"? What are your statements based on? How do you know what MLK "process" was like and what makes you think that someone would reveal that to YOU?

Question to all those using the "Yoked to 'unbelievers'" as the basis for their "arguement": What would you do if you had a sibling who, through a phase of transition/self discovery/awakening/etc. decides that they would now like to be active practice Buddhism, Kaballah, Scientiology, etc.?

[NewBee]

Originally posted by RedefinedDiva
Who is compromising their salvation? Why does it have to be "particularly undergrads"? What are your statements based on? How do you know what MLK "process" was like and what makes you think that someone would reveal that to YOU?

Question to all those using the "Yoked to 'unbelievers'" as the basis for their "arguement": What would you do if you had a sibling who, through a phase of transition/self discovery/awakening/etc. decides that they would now like to be active practice Buddhism, Kaballah, Scientiology, etc.?

I'll bite. The definition for yoked is "to become joined securely." "To become" implies that you were not joined together in the past, that you did something to get in the present state of being joined together. So you are not yoked to your siblings, you did nothing to make a bond with them. Not to say a bond doesn't exist, the blood bond is perhaps one of the most powerful bonds that exist, however, you can't control who your blood sisters or brothers are. Where as with joining a glo or getting marriage, or however else you decided to tie yourself to someone, that is a choice on your part. A choice that everyone has to make for themselves...

[RedefinedDiva]

Originally posted by NewBee
A choice that everyone has to make for themselves...

So WHY is this topic still being debated?

[enigma_AKA]

Originally posted by RedefinedDiva
So WHY is this topic still being debated?

Basically. Once again, people, do what you need to do. If it's wrong to you, then, don't do it. If what you're doing is right, then keep on moving towards *what you believe is* the light.

enigma_AKA

[enigma_AKA]

Originally posted by Iconoclastic

What is it with Black people that we feel we need to exalt some Black man or woman as some god or leader, as the standard of our existence? We need to get off of this trip.

Is that what we're doing?

enigma_AKA

[Honeykiss1974]

But some of you asked those that didn't join a GLO due to their beliefs WHY - and they answered. The fact that "it's a person's choice" (which is true) flys BOTH WAYS - if you're Christian and perfectly happy in a GLO and if you are Christian didn't chose to join a GLO based on your beliefs.

[AKA_Monet]

This argument is EXTREMELY MOOT because we are talking about folks of Afrikan descent who claim to be Christ-ian not wanting to join BGLO's because these GREEK Fratern-ities and Soror-ities are now being called cults, are unequally yoked to "non believers", and are also "unsaved" from an image of a Christ being uplifted equally to God that was told to them by a Roman polythestic convert who lived 700 years after Christ's death and then from slave masters citing several scripture from the King James version of the "Holy Bible"...

Hmmmm interesting cultural asili here...

Everyone here thrives in hypocrisy. Are we ALL willing to admit it? I know I have no issues with my dualities, but that is because I am an Afrikan Centered entity only residing in this dimension at the speed of life... So much for The Universe... There is so much invocations and incantations here... Whoa... What are we trying to rebuke here, again? Remind me please...

[NewBee]

Originally Posted by RedefinedDiva

So WHY is this topic still being debated?

It's not. You asked a new question and I answered your new question.

[NewBee]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

This argument is EXTREMELY MOOT because we are talking about folks of Afrikan descent who claim to be Christ-ian not wanting to join BGLO's because these GREEK Fratern-ities and Soror-ities are now being called cults, are unequally yoked to "non believers", and are also "unsaved" from an image of a Christ being uplifted equally to God that was told to them by a Roman polythestic convert who lived 700 years after Christ's death and then from slave masters citing several scripture from the King James version of the "Holy Bible"...

Hmmmm interesting cultural asili here...

Everyone here thrives in hypocrisy. Are we ALL willing to admit it? I know I have no issues with my dualities, but that is because I am an Afrikan Centered entity only residing in this dimension at the speed of life... So much for The Universe... There is so much invocations and incantations here... Whoa... What are we trying to rebuke here, again? Remind me please...

I wonder at the quotes on Holy Bible. But regardless of what version you quote, I personally read the NIV, the message is the same. How you apply it, or don't apply it to your life is a personal matter. The other stuff you were saying, well that's part fact, part your opinion. Let's just agree to disagree. Be blessed.

[RedefinedDiva]

Originally Posted by NewBee

Let's just agree to disagree. Be blessed.

THANK YOU