Anti-War Protesters.... - Page 8

AOII_LB93 · #**106** 03-24-2003, 09:01 PM

My how eloquently put, though I don't know that I would want a complete stranger sucking on my butt.
Normally I don't like him either, but for once I think he actually has something remotely intelligent to say.

librasoul22 · #**107** 03-24-2003, 09:03 PM

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Originally posted by AOII_LB93
I like the Dennis Miller list....how about that? Not bad. Mr. Miller.

It would have been way better if he were more informed. Like if he didn't intersperse references to bin Laden as if he is synonymus with Iraq.

The only one that makes any sense at all is number 10.

KillarneyRose · #**108** 03-24-2003, 09:04 PM

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Originally posted by Dionysus
He can suck my left a$$ cheek.

Just curious, T, which of Miller's 10 points do you disagree with?

DZHBrown · #**109** 03-24-2003, 09:04 PM

That's a great post regarding what Dennis Miller said. Thanks for posting...

librasoul22 · #**110** 03-24-2003, 09:04 PM

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Originally posted by AOII_LB93
My how eloquently put, though I don't know that I would want a complete stranger sucking on my butt.
Normally I don't like him either, but for once I think he actually has something remotely intelligent to say.

See because you agree, that means it is intelligent.

Would the list be ignorant if you didn't agree?

AOII_LB93 · #**111** 03-24-2003, 09:09 PM

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Originally posted by librasoul22
See because you agree, that means it is intelligent.

Would the list be ignorant if you didn't agree?

Tell me where I said that I agreed with it? I don't believe that I posted that. I was just saying that I liked it. I don't see you jumping all over DZHBrown because she made a similar comment.

I now see what I normally don't get involved in the more controversial postings on GC. Simply put it doesn't matter what my personal opinion is to anyone on here does it? Because regardless of what I say, there are those who will misconstrue whatever comments I make.

VirtuousErudite · #**112** 03-24-2003, 09:29 PM

Reading this entire thread is making me pretty sick to my stomach. I think it is ridiculous that ANYONE and I mean anyone whether for this war or against is has had the audacity to call anyone a dumbass, ignorant, stupid, curse at or belittle anyone because they don't happen to agree with your opinion. If you haven't done it then I'm obviously not speaking to you. If you have you should really take a step back and think. Bickering back and forth over an internet message board is doing nothing for this country or our solidiers risking their lives to protect this country. For the people who are for the war who say that now is not the time to speak dissenting views, why don't you start by showing a little respect for the people you "interact" with on a daily, weekly, or monthly basis on this message board. It is like a small community. Being hurtful and disrespectful does not help you get your point across it just makes you look like an ass. Telling people to leave the country if they don't agree with your opinion makes you look like an ass. The point is whether we agree with this situation or not we are in it as of now. And this is for everyone, before worrying about someone blocking traffic protesting for eithier side why don't you consider how you are treating you friends, neighbors, and others you come into "contact" with whether they agree with you or not.

DZHBrown · #**113** 03-24-2003, 09:37 PM

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And this is for everyone, before worrying about someone blocking traffic protesting for eithier side why don't you consider how you are treating you friends, neighbors, and others you come into "contact" with whether they agree with you or not.

While I don't feel like I've been overtly rude to anyone, I just wanted to ask a question....
You seemed (and I could be wrong) to direct this post at the people who support military action. Do you feel that the anti-war people who have been rude and belittling should think about their actions, as well?

#**114** 03-24-2003, 09:55 PM

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Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
your post lost all credibility with that ignorant statement right there.

Kitso
KS 361

I'm guessing that everyone's that's upset about "people calling each other ignorant for disagreeing" is looking at this post.

If you look carefully and re-read it, nowhere will you see the words, "you are ignorant, because i disagree with you". In fact, the adjective "ignorant" is directly followed by the noun it modifys(? help me out here english majors) "statement".

So, when we read the WHOLE post and don't just see one word and jump to conclusions, we see that what i was calling ignorant was the statement, "BUSH and his lies" not librasoul for disagreeing with me.

As far as the Miller link, i believe he was referring to Hussein and bin Laden and Saddam as separate entities that both wish for the destruction of Americans. More of hey, Apple and Orange are fruits(2 separate things) as opposed to Red Delicious and Granny Smith(2 types of the same thing). Although, you could argue that they both are evil leaders, but i don't necessarily think that Miller is implying that they are in cahoots.

Kitso
KS 361

VirtuousErudite · #**115** 03-24-2003, 10:07 PM

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Originally posted by DZHBrown
While I don't feel like I've been overtly rude to anyone, I just wanted to ask a question....
You seemed (and I could be wrong) to direct this post at the people who support military action. Do you feel that the anti-war people who have been rude and belittling should think about their actions, as well?

Yes you were wrong in your assumption. I purposely used the word ANYONE in large capital letters. Maybe I should have put it in bold. ANYONE means ANYONE. I also stated that if you were not guilty then the post didn't pertain to you. I have seen rudeness on both sides but in this PARTICULAR thread I haven't seen anyone who was anti-war use insults or name calling. I could have been wrong, if so I am SURE someone will point it out. My main point is that belittling people doesn't help anything at all and I think you are assumming I am anti-war. I am not anti-war, I just support the right for everyone to use their rights to free speech in this democratic country, whether I like what they are saying or not.

swissmiss04 · #**116** 03-24-2003, 10:22 PM

Wow. Greek togetherness...and stuff. I know we have hundreds of different takes on the war. What sucks is that no one person is right. Or completely wrong. But how come in a time of need we as Americans can't come together? It worked really well after Sept. 11. I know that not everyone shares the same opinions regarding the justness of the war and the alleged rationales BUT we are all Americans. We all know someone who has been shipped off. And we're all worried about a certain someone (friend, sibling, spouse). If nothing else, we should all unify and be thankful that we have people who will (and have) give their lives in OUR defense. I have no problem w/ everyday people protesting (within reason, without causing physical harm to others!) for either side, but I have a huge vendetta against these celebrities who try to jump on some pathetic bandwagon and try to be human shields or whatever. If they really wanted to help, why don't they donate their earnings to the poor hungry children of Iraq, who are probably going to lose their parents. Or hell, donate money to any of the millions of starving impoverished people in the world. Or better yet, be a human shield for the people in the ghettos of Chicago, LA, NY, etc. There are people in need all over the place. But of course they're too shallow and sheltered to find out for themselves.

swissmiss04 · #**117** 03-24-2003, 10:31 PM

And a certain person by the name of Dennis Miller can shove it for the comment he made about Islam. Defaming anyone's religion is in poor taste, especially when he probably knows zilch about it. Maybe he should sue his home school district for denying him an education.

Bro2B · #**118** 03-24-2003, 10:45 PM

Just for the record, I really believe in that Voltaire quote I included earlier.

And also for the record, I'd never call someone who call someone an ignorant dumbass. I may call them ignorant, though (after all, we're all ignorant about some things, aren't we?).

I posted something with a little thought behind it instead of a knee jerk response and I'm looking forward to similar responses and thought.

sugar and spice · #**119** 03-24-2003, 11:16 PM

VirtuousErudite and Bro2B -- amen to both of you.

And as for the Dennis Miller list, it was ridiculous. Once again, it's a perfect example of somebody taking an extremely complex issue and making it way too oversimplified, and in the process it loses most of its meaning.

(1) Saddam = bad guy? Way too oversimplified. And even if Saddam is worse than George W. Bush, that doesn't mean that Bush can't be a bad guy too. (Note: I am not saying that he IS, because I don't really feel it's my place to judge. I'm just saying that just because one side is bad doesn't mean the other side is necessarily "good.")

(2) So we're not supposed to have faith in the UN? So for some reason we don't have an obligation to listen to them, because we are in some way more special than all the other countries? Am I just mistaken, or was it the UN that ordered Iraq to disarm originally? So Iraq has to follow UN orders but we don't?

(3) Heh. Granted this was a code put in as a practical joke, so it has no bearing whatsoever on military events, but it's still funny.

(4) I sort of agree -- but then there are plenty of ignorant statements on the pro-war side too. Such as most of Dennis Miller's list . . .

(5) And we're not seeking UN approval before we kill them, either. So that puts us on the same level as Saddam and Iraq. Way to take the high road.

(6) What does this even refer to?

(7) And bin Laden has what to do with Saddam, again?

(8) I haven't heard anybody talk about a vast right-wing conspiracy. Am I just out of the loop?

(9) Cheap shot, and not especially relevant to the issue at hand.

(10) Agreed.

Seriously, folks, if you thought the Dennis Miller was "intelligent," you're deluding yourself into thinking that anybody who agrees with you is brilliant. I can see liking it, finding it funny, or even agreeing with it, but is it intelligent? Give me a break.

Dionysus · #**120** 03-24-2003, 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by KillarneyRose
Just curious, T, which of Miller's 10 points do you disagree with?

Particularly #9. To lump islamics like that was unneccessary...and I'm not even Islamic.