Why Haze!!

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I know, but I just got the vibe that his school doesn't permit any sort of pledge activities for anybody ever - like Greek orgs as a whole are not just unrecognized but you can get kicked out for being in them. YMMV.

Or it is possible the school believes in the Insta-cross school of thought. essentially you get a bid and are initiated right away.

[direstraits]

yeah my school thinks in that way. i understand working for you letters but i dont understand mindless violence...

[AyUaxe]

I put it this way--why would any organization want members with so little self-respect that they would tolerate being hazed? Why would anyone have so little self-respect as to want to join an organization that betrayed its own "brothers" by hazing? To me, once it's in that perspective, the right answers become clear.

[Preston327]

Originally Posted by AyUaxe

I put it this way--why would any organization want members with so little self-respect that they would tolerate being hazed? Why would anyone have so little self-respect as to want to join an organization that betrayed its own "brothers" by hazing? To me, once it's in that perspective, the right answers become clear.

This, a thousand times. This group whose informational I went to put hazing to the PNMs this way: "nobody who will haze you is worthy of being called your brother, and nobody who will allow themselves to be hazed is worthy of being a brother." That's my personal policy in a nutshell.

My personal opinion on new member education is that it should do three things:

1. Teach new members about the history and traditions of your organization, their expectations as a member and the like.

2. Help new members build a connection and bond with their fellow new members and brothers of their organization.

3. Help new members acclimate to and become involved in what's going on with their university. This is especially important with incoming Freshmen.

If more groups took the approach of "what can we do to help our new members become at home with their organization and new community" instead of "what can we do to test these guys and see how badly they want to be members" I think you'd see a much improved reputation of Greek life in general.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by petit_jolie

isnt masonry a part of the devils work? I have also been hearing that many GLO's and BGLO'S are part of Freemasonry or order of the eastern stars? Is this true? Are their certian symbols to watch out for?? I am not a member of GLO but I am just curious because many people told me I would go to hell if I was to partake in one. I hope I dont offend anyone I just want some specific answers. Thanks

No.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by petit_jolie

isnt masonry a part of the devils work?

No. Some religious sects have issues with masonry, but they aren't doing "the devil's work"

I have also been hearing that many GLO's and BGLO'S are part of Freemasonry or order of the eastern stars?

Some GLOs have ties to masonry, as in their founders were Masons. Some members of different GLOs are Masons or OES. It's probably about the same as the general population percentage wise. No GLO is a part Freemasonry or OES, at least not as far as I've ever seen.

Are their certian symbols to watch out for??

Probably when people use the wrong version of "there/their/they're." Oh you meant to tell if they're masons? The organizations aren't. If you want to avoid actual people, you're on your own.

I am not a member of GLO but I am just curious because many people told me I would go to hell if I was to partake in one. I hope I dont offend anyone I just want some specific answers. Thanks

Some people are anti-GLO for religious reasons such as taking an oath, or claiming we worship pagan gods, or the devil or whatever. Only you can decide what's right for you, but I know many religious GLO members who have no problem with the values, ideals, exemplars, etc. of their GLO.

[Tom Earp]

In the days of Yore (Long Time ago) many more people were members of Free Masonary as there were not GLOs.

Many times the people who started these male GLOs were Masons.

I am sure that parts of those rituals were used in writing their rituals.

As a member of a GLO and a non praticing 32 Degree Mason, I can easily state there is no devil worship as Masonary has many things in their ritual beleiveing in God as we know him as do many GLOs.

Symbols are just that and have to do with their rituals.

I just wish you could see the LXA Ritual and see the meanings and how profound it is and the teachings that go along with them.

Masonary was a Brotherhood much the same way as GLOs are today.

They had like beleifes and worked with each other much the same way GLOs today do. Was it secret, of course it was as you had to be asked to join.