Brandy and all of the Drama, Summer 2004 - Page 8

strobelitehoney · #**106** 03-05-2002, 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by CrimsonTide4

Why are people already taking bets on how long this marriage will last? More importantly, why do you care?

There are people all over, including here on GC, who married before they were 22 or 23 and their marriages are still together and lasted. True there is a greater propensity for "celebrity marriages" to not last, but why are outsiders already pumping up the bad to happen.

My thoughts are this, RIGHT NOW Brandy is in love with her husband as he is with her; they are expecting their first child; neither Brandy nor her husband need our approval on anything.

I am also bothered by your statement: I think that if times start to get tough for her, she'll seek that advice, of other '
entertainer moms. What in the world does that mean? Brandy has always struck me as family oriented, so why would she consult her peers when she can consult her family and God.

Don't get mad at me cause I said, what others were thinking.

I KNOW I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS THOUGHT THAT. TAKEN THE FACT THAT, SHE DIDN'T INVITE HER OWN DAMN MOM TO THE WEDDING, IS RIDICULOUS. WHO WOULDN'T WANT THEIR MOM THAT HAS BEEN THERE FOR THEM FROM THE VERY BEGINNING AT THEIR OWN WEDDING. So how family oriented is that being.

ALL OF THIS WAS SAID ON THE RADIO THIS MORNING. THAT CAME FROM THE SAME MAGAZINE ARTICLE, THAT LIL-SUNSHINE WAS TALKING ABOUT.

SECOND OF ALL, I HOPE THE MARRIAGE LAST! I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS WONDERED HOW LONG IT WILL LAST, SO DON'T BLAST ME ON THE ISSUE, BECAUSE I HAVE SAID WHAT IS BEING THOUGHT. I DID NOT SAY I WANTED IT TO FAIL, NOW DID I. NO I DIDN'T!!!!! I AM ALL FOR LONG AND HAPPY MARRIAGES. So to assume that I hope the girl fail, is a misunderstanding on YOUR part not mine. IF YOU KNEW ME WELL ENOUGHT YOU WOULD KNOW THAT I HATE TO SEE MARRIAGES FALL APART. BUT YOU DON'T, SO YOU DON'T KNOW MY THOUGHTS.
I didn't propose a bet in the first place.(SO WHERE DID THAT COME FROM) If this is a topic of discussion, leave it as a topic of discussion, and not something as a personal debate, as IF WE KNOW THE GIRL PERSONALLY.

About her asking other entertainer moms(entertainer moms, whitney houston,.... she has a child, t-boz...... she has a child, I doubt that she'll ask t-boz) That is what i meant by entertainer moms, NOT to mean, NOT asking her own mom, for advice. Don't you ask members, or even friends you work with for advice who have gone through situations that you are dealing with now for advice.????? I KNOW that we all did not do things on our own, to get where we were.
Let's not be forgetful, that everything that happens under the sun isn't new. We all didn't just get up and start walking.

tickledpink · #**107** 03-05-2002, 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by SweetestDiva

Well said, well said!! This thread has been bothering me for awhile now. Does anybody on here know Brandy personally? Anybody know her husband or her mama? And I do mean PERSONALLY, not what you read or heard on television or in a magazine. I mean, please. The girl decided to get married and start a family. Regardless of the situations surrounding all that, it's basically her business. Who is anybody to say she's "acting like something she's not" when YOU DON'T KNOW HER? I get so sick of people being self-righteous.. I can't believe how judgemental people get when it comes to other folks' business, especially celebs. I hope the marriage lasts.. and it can if she will just continue to shake the haters off.

I thought it was very disturbing that people are saying that her baby may be an UGMO. --- Not attacking the poster, but the origin of the comment-----. That is soooo sad. To attack an unborn child is very cruel. And what if it isn't very attractive by someone else's standards? Will there be articles/ broadcasts/ jokes calling her baby an UGMO? That's awful. I'm one that thinks that Brandy is a particularily talented and beautiful young lady. I love the fact that she's so young and has done something positive with her life. If she ever stumbled upon this site, I'd have to say --- Brandy - go on & do yo' thang!

bellebeaua · #**108** 03-05-2002, 02:06 PM

Brandy is a new bride, an expecting mother (July) and an artist with a fantastic junior album (released today)! In my book, she is a beautiful aspiring young woman who deserves a lot more credit than that of which has been displayed thus far.

SweetestDiva · #**109** 03-05-2002, 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by strobelitehoney

Don't get mad at me cause I said, what others were thinking.

I KNOW I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS THOUGHT THAT. TAKEN THE FACT THAT, SHE DIDN'T INVITE HER OWN DAMN MOM TO THE WEDDING, IS RIDICULOUS. WHO WOULDN'T WANT THEIR MOM THAT HAS BEEN THERE FOR THEM FROM THE VERY BEGINNING AT THEIR OWN WEDDING. So how family oriented is that being.
ALL OF THIS WAS SAID ON THE RADIO THIS MORNING. THAT CAME FROM THE SAME MAGAZINE ARTICLE, THAT LIL-SUNSHINE WAS TALKING ABOUT.

1. How do you know for sure what others were thinking? Obviously a lot of "others" weren't thinking the same thing (i.e. myself, CT4, TickledPink). Yes, you're entitled to your own opinion, but don't justify hating by saying you were just speaking on behalf of "others" who didn't speak up themselves.

2. How do you know the details of her wedding? Because a magazine or radio personality says it, does that make it true? Were you there? Did Brandy tell you who she did or didn't invite? And since you're the one that has been bashing Mrs. Norwood from the beginning about her involvement in Brandy's life, could you maybe see why she didn't invite her, IF that was the case? How all of a sudden is it a shame how she treats her "own damn mom"

when almost every post you've made thus far has been downing the same mother for being in her child's business?

I'm not asking these questions to be rude. I just wanted to give some examples of how petty these things are. Talking about someone's appearance is one thing (you can SEE FOR YOURSELF what they look like), but laying out what you HEARD about one's personal life and then criticizing and judging is another. You pose the question as to how family-oriented Brandy is. How 'bout this - How sisterly are we when we make assumptions like these?

strobelitehoney · #**110** 03-05-2002, 03:34 PM

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Originally posted by SweetestDiva

1. How do you know for sure what others were thinking? Obviously a lot of "others" weren't thinking the same thing (i.e. myself, CT4, TickledPink). Yes, you're entitled to your own opinion, but don't justify hating by saying you were just speaking on behalf of "others" who didn't speak up themselves.

2. How do you know the details of her wedding? Because a magazine or radio personality says it, does that make it true? Were you there? Did Brandy tell you who she did or didn't invite? And since you're the one that has been bashing Mrs. Norwood from the beginning about her involvement in Brandy's life, could you maybe see why she didn't invite her, IF that was the case? How all of a sudden is it a shame how she treats her "own damn mom" when almost every post you've made thus far has been downing the same mother for being in her child's business?

I'm not asking these questions to be rude. I just wanted to give some examples of how petty these things are. Talking about someone's appearance is one thing (you can SEE FOR YOURSELF what they look like), but laying out what you HEARD about one's personal life and then criticizing and judging is another. You pose the question as to how family-oriented Brandy is. How 'bout this - How sisterly are we when we make assumptions like these?

Sweetie,

Ain't nobody hatin' on brandy. Talking about someone's appearance is just as petty, so how can that be put aside into another category. Petty is being petty. First of all I did not judge anyone. If you would've read what my reply was to, then , everyone would't be in physical education class, jumping to conclusions. As far as I'm concerned, my reply was to lil sunshine, and her thoughts on Brandy's maturity. DID YOU READ THAT???

lil-Sunshine
I read that article, and I think that she continues to stress the fact that she's a woman now b/c she needs people to believe it as well as herself. I also think that she still has lots and lots of soul searching to do before she can say that she's truly "found herself." Her provocative new look, IMO, is supposed to bring out the "woman" she's kept hiding for soooo long. Whatever!?!?! What she needs to do is stop trying to act like something she's not, and humble herself before she gets out of control with her immature attitude. Ooooops, my bad, she's already immature, and I don't think she'll humble herself until after she has her baby and realizes how hard motherhood really is!!!

Strobelitehoney
Girl you are of the heezy on this topic.
My thoughts are, I wonder how long the marriage is going to last? Because isn't she only 22 or 23? I believe she is Waaaaaaaay to young for marriage, but what is done is done. I believe that she's just going through a phase, like we all did When we moved out of our parents house, and just KNEW WE WERE GROWN, BUT REALITY HIT, AFTER A GOOD MINUTE. SHE'S GOING TO SIMMER DOWN AFTER THE BABY COME, JUST WATCH, AND SEE. I think that if times start to get tough for her, she'll seek that advice, of other entertainer moms. But we ALLLLLLLL KNOW, MS NORWOOD, is GONE ALLLWAAAAYS WATCH HER GRAN-CHULLEN. and try to run their lives as well

"How 'bout this - How sisterly are we when we make assumptions like these?"

If that is the case then why weren't those assumptions asked to me in this way?

Strobelitehoney, Why do you think she's too young for marriage?? Or what does age have to do with it?, or what phase do you think she's going through. Why do you think things, will get tough?

Personally I think she's grown into quite a young lady. As far as her mother is concerned, If you have a child, or children, doesn't your mom, or their grandparents, take care of them when you are out handling business.????? So what is the difference

Where in the Heezy, Did i say I hated the girl, or I am hating on her??? Where in my post did I say, I hope her marriage doesn't last??? Not once have I commented on what i think the girls baby is gonna look like, but everyone else did. So what's the difference. Petty is Petty. It's just as gossipy as the next topic about brandy. So why is it, that I say something(when I really didn't), it's such a big stank? Is it because I'm a new member? or what. Because anyone who has posted on this topic, is just as guilty, for JUDGING, TALKING ABOUT, TRASHING HER,Gossiping, relaying messages from the radio personality, or magazine article too (otherwise, where would we get our info, because I doubt very seriously, Anyone of us know her pesonally). So don't get, HOLIER THAN THOU ON ME.
Have you READ the VIBE article??? I am not trying to change the subject. I'm bringing up points.

I don't know what others are thinking, But I know this, If I thought it ,someone else has thought it too. It's been said in my office where I work, and on the radio, casual conversation, and other BB's. So we are not always alone in our thinking. I don't speak for ANYONE else but myself. So instead of telling me not to speak for others, you should tell them not to put words in my mouth, or twist what i said, and then post it as if I said it. The same radio personality said, that she was pregnant, Did you see how in an uproar we all flew off the handle on that??

Now if i said, BRANDY IS TO YOUNG, AND NOT MATURE ENOUGH TO BE A MOM, AND ON TOP OF THAT I HOPE HER MARRIAGE FAILS, I CAN SEE, WHY EVERYONE SHOULD BE JUMPING ON MY CASE.
BUT IT'S NOT THE CASE, AND THOSE WORDS NEVER CAME OUT OF MY MOUTH.
And No, I don't think you were being rude.

You can find this article at Vibe.com. To clear up any confusion, It may have caused about brandy's mom, Not being INVITED TO THE WEDDING.

But now she admits to having secretly married Robert Smith, a 22-year-old producer from New Jersey. The two tied the knot in an extremely private ceremony last summer, and Brandy pulled a Janet Jackson keeping the nuptials on the low. "My mother was a little upset because she wanted to be there," says Brandy. "But we'll do a big wedding later." She gushes that her husband is "the best thing that's happened to her," but will reveal little else. When asked how they met, she just smiles and says, "I don't want to discuss the details, because we want our love to be between me and him." By all accounts, he's handsome, a dark-skinned brother who stands about 6'2". He produced a handful of tracks on Brandy's latest, including the remake of PM Dawn's "I'd Die Without You," a duet she sings with Ray J. Rodney Jerkins, who produced the bulk of Full Moon, and who is Smith's cousin, expressed concern over Brandy and Robert's decision to walk down the aisle. "I pray that everything works out for the best for them, but I don't know if they're truly in love," says Jerkins. "They say they're in love, but how do you really know a person in that short period of time?" (Brandy and Smith have known each other for a couple of years, but sources close to the singer are keeping mum about how long they were dating before the wedding.)

Brandy's mother, on the other hand, is gung ho about the union, even though she wasn't invited to the ceremony. "She's 23, but she's had experiences of women that are 35," Norwood says. "If she's found her soul mate, then great." Brandy herself is clear on the age issue. "People are going to say what they want to say, but I know what I feel," she says. "And when you deal with love, there is no time. There are no rules to love." So there. And if you'd like to know anything else about her mystery man, Brandy says, listen to her CD. "Everything you need to know about him is in the last four songs," she says, beaming.

delph998 · #**111** 03-05-2002, 03:59 PM

Just wanted everyone to know that Brandy was on the Morning Show this morning and she looked really good. She's lost a lot of weight, but that's it. She performed "What About Us" and I love that song too! The beat is off the hinges. She'll be on 106th and Park this evening. Watch it...It will definitely be good! I love Brandy and I can't wait to get her album!

PEACE

SweetestDiva · #**112** 03-05-2002, 05:34 PM

Strobelitehoney, this is my last public reply to you.

The only question I posed to you was... how do you know these things? When I say "you" I mean, anyone who has come on here making assumptions about the girl's PERSONALITY. I think it's grossly unfair for anybody to assume (and yes, JUDGE) that Brandy is being "something she's not" when you don't know the girl. Or that "Ooooops, my bad, she's already immature" for the same reason. Or (paraphrasing) "Now I know why she's getting married. It's to cover up that pregnancy out of wedlock." If we knew her, it would be a different story. I wasn't questioning your thinking she married a little young - to me, that's a valid statement. What I was questioning is people basically saying things like the above statements about somebody we don't even know.

And by no means was I attempting to justify talking about someone's appearance. Yes, that's petty too. But it doesn't make creating a personality/situation for someone in your head and running with it any less petty.

I didn't intend for this to get personal and so off-topic, and I apologize for the disruption in the thread. Please PM me if you want to discuss further.

strobelitehoney · #**113** 03-05-2002, 06:10 PM

I didn't take it personal. I will be PM'ing you

sunnydays96 · #**114** 03-05-2002, 07:48 PM

With all that has been said by her family, friends, the media, and the general public-fans and haters, I can see why she wanted to keep things a secret for as long as she could. If I was in her shoes, I would have done the same thing.

AKA2D '91 · #**115** 03-05-2002, 07:52 PM

Hey Soror!

Happy New Year! LMAO

PrettyPetite · #**116** 03-05-2002, 09:28 PM

I saw Ms. Brandy on TRL this afternoon. Like AKA2d said, sistagirl is VERY pregnant.

I thought she looked good! It looks like she might be one of those women that, when they get pregnant, the only weight they put on is 'baby weight' (just in the stomach). I say that because, if I saw Brandy just from the back, I wouldn't know she was pregnant.

She said that she's having a Girl, and that she isn't going to stop working, she'll just take the baby with her.

AKA2D '91 · #**117** 03-05-2002, 10:49 PM

LMAO!

IT'S MRS.Brandy, now!

Dancerella1908 · #**118** 03-06-2002, 11:57 AM

I saw Brandy (yesterday) on the local news via satellite and she talked about her new album Full Moon being released yesterday. She also talked about her husband helped with some songs and the album is all about her experiences in relationships. She stated that she is sooooooooo in love and it's great and she's having a little "princess" in July.

lil_sunshine · #**119** 03-06-2002, 03:51 PM

It's Mrs. Robert Smith and I was watching JumpStart on VH1 and they also said that she's having a girl. Get ready, GC, for the facial swelling of Mrs. Smith. I also saw her on Rosie O'Donnell this morning before I left to go to school and she's definitely showing, but I must admit that her belly looks too cute!!!

AKA2D '91 · #**120** 03-06-2002, 07:18 PM

ACTUALLY

I thought Brandy was a female and her name is Brandy R. Norwood-Smith, whose husband reportedly is Robert Smith...

Ya'll didn't tell us she's a MAN!