2011 recruitment bits and pieces

[DubaiSis]

Could you imagine the chaos if you had open parties after that whole day? You'd never get the girls outta there! I've got nightmare visions going through my head just thinking of how that might go.

[HQWest]

Originally Posted by shirley1929

Much better article.

What is "pre-major"? Is that the new PC term for "undeclared"?

Pre-major is an undeclared major usually within a defined college or program. Someone could be pre-major health professions or pre-major College of Communications if they were accepted into that college but had not selected a specific program.

Schools do this because students change their majors a lot the first two years, and a lot of majors within a college might have the same course requirements at least for the freshman year. The college can have a counselor advise freshmen and then parcel them out to advising by faculty once they have a better idea of what they want to do.

[shirley1929]

Originally Posted by Blondie93

Yes, pre-major is TCU's term for undecided, and it dates back to at least 1991.

Gotcha...just sounds like the writer left out a word (ie: was supposed to be "Pre-Med" or something).

Originally Posted by Blondie93

I noted the president used the term too, but was wondering if the writer mixed up the quote? That would then have led to her mixed up explantion in the article? Who knows?

I'm guessing that TCU Panhellenic had some "optional" time slots for parties in case they needed them due to large numbers. They ended up needing them, so that's probably what she's referring to & it just came out wrong. I know other schools do that "hold this time slot" plan, so that's why I'm guessing that. Either that, or she was flat-out misquoted.

[SydneyK]

Originally Posted by HQWest

The college can have a counselor advise freshmen and then parcel them out to advising by faculty once they have a better idea of what they want to do.

This seems like a great advising model.

Students usually end up with an adviser-change with each major-change. Depending on the number of changes a student goes through, that could lead to seriously inconsistent and, at times, non-existent advising. With the system you've described, students receive consistent counseling with smooth transitions between the two advisers.

/random advising tangent

[PhoenixAzul]

Oh, OU Daily. You could be so much more.

So the houses at OU are beautiful. The recruitment is competitive. The women in each and every house are A-MA-ZING.

Again, I think it comes down to a lack of editing, and perhaps a lack of creating a narrative that would be appealing to a wider audience. It didn't have to be "sorority life sucks, here's why you shouldn't do it" it could be a "I had this expectation, and it didn't come to life, so this is how I handled it" type of article.

Le sigh.

[DubaiSis]

There are a lot of ways to tell the story of recruitment from both sides that would be neither a smear piece nor unicorns pooping rainbows. Frankly I think the part about wardrobe check might make some girls happy to know these beautiful perfect girls don't just show up one day looking like that automatically. It's all in the way you tell it. And we all know Spanx are our friend so get over yourself if you think it's appalling to suggest a smoother look is more attractive. If they'd only been invented when I was in college...

[PhoenixAzul]

Oh, my little recruitment bit:

Otterbein has officially swapped to semesters (whoa). And this means that recruitment will be FIRST SEMESTER. Double WHOA. I wonder how it will work out, I'm especially curious about how it will impact my own chapter.

[Low C Sharp]

Oh, is this one of those threads where you, the wise non-Greek, tell Greeks what we should or should not have done?

Nope. It's one where we're talking about a campus-wide conflict and the external appearance (ugliness, to my eyes) of an apparent Greek action. The chapters may well have been pursuing a wise course of action for their own best interests -- I didn't and wouldn't comment on that, because I can't know. But non-Greeks are in fact well qualified to describe what the action looks like from the outside.

Of course, you don't have to care about anyone else's perception, least of all mine. I'm just saying that the public is in a good position to call 'em like we see 'em when it comes to what GLOs do in public.

The Daily Illini wrote about the boycott recently, describing it as temporary, based on pulling ads rather than subscriptions, and saying that the Greek councils told the DI that the one obnoxious article wasn't the cause for the boycott. So it seems like different players in the story have different recollections of what happened. This DI version actually casts a more flattering light on the Greeks:

http://www.dailyillini.com/index.php..._greek_system#

[EEKappa]

It's been ages since I've logged in here, and I'm happy to see so many familiar user names!

My second cousin (first cousin's daughter) starts recruitment today at UC Berkeley. She's the closest thing I'll ever have to a legacy, and though I'm hoping she'll find a home that she loves, regardless of the letters, I'm still fantasizing about planning a trip to California for her initiation. Is that wrong?

[ISUKappa]

Originally Posted by EEKappa

It's been ages since I've logged in here, and I'm happy to see so many familiar user names!

My second cousin (first cousin's daughter) starts recruitment today at UC Berkeley. She's the closest thing I'll ever have to a legacy, and though I'm hoping she'll find a home that she loves, regardless of the letters, I'm still fantasizing about planning a trip to California for her initiation. Is that wrong?

Definitely not!

[DubaiSis]

Telling her not to pledge that other loser house, THAT'S wrong.

[EEKappa]

Originally Posted by ISUKappa

Definitely not!

Thanks for the reassurance!

I just went and re-read my retro-recruitment thread -- can't believe how long ago it was that I wrote that. And what a coincidence that a current thread is using movies from the 80s as code names too!

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by Low C Sharp

Nope. It's one where we're talking about a campus-wide conflict and the external appearance (ugliness, to my eyes) of an apparent Greek action. The chapters may well have been pursuing a wise course of action for their own best interests -- I didn't and wouldn't comment on that, because I can't know. But non-Greeks are in fact well qualified to describe what the action looks like from the outside.

Of course, you don't have to care about anyone else's perception, least of all mine. I'm just saying that the public is in a good position to call 'em like we see 'em when it comes to what GLOs do in public.

The Daily Illini wrote about the boycott recently, describing it as temporary, based on pulling ads rather than subscriptions, and saying that the Greek councils told the DI that the one obnoxious article wasn't the cause for the boycott. So it seems like different players in the story have different recollections of what happened. This DI version actually casts a more flattering light on the Greeks:

http://www.dailyillini.com/index.php..._greek_system#

Why don't you tell us what the Greeks should do when the DI publishes an editorial filled with untrue and nasty depictions?

(the link you posted actually does not mention the incident to which I am referring)

[Shellfish]

I'm going to be the substitute for honeychile here and point out that a first cousin's child is your first cousin once removed.

[SWTXBelle]

Your parent's cousin's child is of course your second cousin.