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Old 03-15-2009, 07:51 PM
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Well I dress like a "thug" but that doesnt mean i have bad home training. For a person who has never been in trouble for anything school and street wise, never been a drug dealer or a gang member shows that I have very good home training if you ask me. I dress in what i personally like. Im not a big fan of ties and suits therefore I dress in gym shoes pants that are a little bit baggy and t shirts. I have no problem with a parent putting some type of input on what a child wears, but they should also allow that child to pick out what they want to wear unless the child is mentally incapable of doing things on his or her own.

As for the part that i put in bold, I dont care what a person has on long as what they say is true or worth listening to. Clothing doesnt make up a persons knowledge on different subjects.
It doesn't matter if you don't really act like a thug. Your dressing like one will make society think you do.

Like everyone said, you're thinking like a 19 year old. I'm sure it'll change once you're older.
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Old 03-15-2009, 07:57 PM
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It doesn't matter if you don't really act like a thug. Your dressing like one will make society think you do.

Like everyone said, you're thinking like a 19 year old. I'm sure it'll change once you're older.
Maybe, but as of right now I dont see that happening
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Old 03-15-2009, 07:58 PM
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Maybe, but as of right now I dont see that happening
Because you're 19. LOL.
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Old 03-15-2009, 07:58 PM
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Maybe, but as of right now I dont see that happening
If that's the case, good luck having people take you seriously in the real world.
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Old 03-15-2009, 07:58 PM
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Believe me, if your philosophy professor showed up wearing a mini skirt and tube top, you WOULD'NT be able to LISTEN to HEAR her TALK! You'd be too busy wondering what crack did she SMOKE that morning!

Just because you're not a fan of wearing ties and suits doesn't mean that you cannot wear them! I'm not a fan of wearing dresses without having a full pair of pantyhoses on. But yet, I learn how to adjust to where I am and what I am doing as to what I am/am not willing to wear.

I once had a friend who kept trying to get me to wear a backless shirt--oh hell to the NO! I am a big girl--and I'm sorry, there are some things that shouldn't be seen and my back is one of them!

Again, it's about being able to adjust to where you are and what you are doing as to determine what it is that you should/shouldn't wear. I remember when I was in undergrad, outside of the dorm room, I never wore a pair of shorts on campus--and I went to school in Alabama! It's not that people on campus didn't I just didn't feel COMFORTABLE in them out of my dorm room.

I'm sorry, it's becoming apparent that you aren't a parent. There are some things that a parent should NOT let their child out of the house wearing! I'm sorry. As a parent, it is their responsibility to tell that child, hey, you aren't going anywhere looking like that with me! You aren't leaving the house looking like that! That is a parents right and role in being able to TEACH the child how to become AWARE of themselves, their surroundings, and their appearance!

Baggy pants and t-shirtrs and gym shoes shows a very ignant REFLECTION of you--despite what information you may have in your head! You could be Albert Einstein or Dr. King, however, many people aren't going to listen to WHAT YOU SAY first, they are going to JUDGE you first by what you are WEARING.
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Old 03-15-2009, 08:03 PM
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You don't see yourself dressing differently right now because you are still 19, however, when you graduate at 21 or 22 and are going for a job, you will see things in a different light.

Believe me, by the time you have an internship, you will LEARN the difference in needing to dress in a suit and tie.

When I was doing my internship, the school had a dress code! You couldn't dress any which-a-way you wanted too because you were also graded on how you dressed!

Believe me, your internship supervisor would call and talk to your professor on your dress and you'd have to come in and talk about it with the dean. If you failed to change, believe me, the dean of student affairs would get on your case.

Again, it's about being able to learn how to dress for where you are.
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Old 03-15-2009, 08:06 PM
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Not even ties and suits, knowing casual and business casual styles of dress would suffice for many settings.

LOL. I have seen men wear baggy dress clothes to church. As if their daily baggy routine was so awesome that it wouldn't be "keeping it real" to get over it for one day.

Gym shoes, Timbs, tshirts, and jeans are cool as long as you aren't recreating the hoodlum look. No one is saying that you have to feel stuffy in suits and trousers/slacks every day if your environments don't call for it.

Just know the difference or else you will be very limited in your social interactions and networking and career opportunities. You can still be black if you are upwardly mobile.
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Old 03-15-2009, 08:16 PM
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Not even ties and suits, knowing casual and business casual styles of dress would suffice for many settings.

LOL. I have seen men wear baggy dress clothes to church. As if their daily baggy routine was so awesome that it wouldn't be "keeping it real" to get over it for one day.

Gym shoes, Timbs, tshirts, and jeans are cool as long as you aren't recreating the hoodlum look. No one is saying that you have to feel stuffy in suits and trousers/slacks every day if your environments don't call for it.

Just know the difference or else you will be very limited in your social interactions and networking and career opportunities. You can still be black if you are upwardly mobile.

I got that Dave Chappelle skit running thru my head now...

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Old 03-15-2009, 08:09 PM
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It's true NOW!

Just look at your responses to people who are older than you! You are wanting to practically throw a temper tantrum because folks don't see things your way! That is the ACTION of a child!

Just like people have to take a "moment of reflection" or a "big girl/boy pill" it's time that you take your big boy pill right now!

You are on the verge of going into the---dare I say it---REAL WORLD! And I am SO sorry to burst your "happy bubble" but get with it son! You are judged by the WAY that you dress!

Simple fact of matter-get over it!

If you saw me now, you'd think this woman is sad, un happy, or just doesn't give a damn about the way that she dresses! And you'd be right with the last statement--I'm not working and so, I don't happen to dress in my work clothes for my daily living. However, when I am working, believe me, my clothes reflect that and people judge my ability to help them based on the way that I dress!

Get up, get a glass of water, take your big boy pill and stop whining about why you don't want to dress in a suit and tie!
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Old 03-15-2009, 08:11 PM
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Just look at your responses to people who are older than you! You are wanting to practically throw a temper tantrum because folks don't see things your way! That is the ACTION of a child!
I don't see where he is throwing a temper tantrum.

He's just typing from experience and standing behind what he knows to be true.
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Old 03-15-2009, 08:19 PM
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It's true NOW!

Just look at your responses to people who are older than you! You are wanting to practically throw a temper tantrum because folks don't see things your way! That is the ACTION of a child!

Just like people have to take a "moment of reflection" or a "big girl/boy pill" it's time that you take your big boy pill right now!

You are on the verge of going into the---dare I say it---REAL WORLD! And I am SO sorry to burst your "happy bubble" but get with it son! You are judged by the WAY that you dress!

Simple fact of matter-get over it!

If you saw me now, you'd think this woman is sad, un happy, or just doesn't give a damn about the way that she dresses! And you'd be right with the last statement--I'm not working and so, I don't happen to dress in my work clothes for my daily living. However, when I am working, believe me, my clothes reflect that and people judge my ability to help them based on the way that I dress!

Get up, get a glass of water, take your big boy pill and stop whining about why you don't want to dress in a suit and tie!
How am i throwing a temper tantrum? I am just debating the issue with everybody who has a opinion. I havent cursed at anybody nor have I told them that everything they say is complete b.s.
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Old 03-15-2009, 08:10 PM
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Again, Delta Devil, your comment on the way of how "black people dress" around where you were is what's getting the flack!

Next time, before you post, think about what you are about to say!
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Old 03-15-2009, 08:13 PM
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Looking at it from my point of view I just see a temper tantrum being thrown in his defensiveness of not wanting to wear a tie and suit. To me, it just shows that he needs to grow a little.
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Old 03-15-2009, 08:18 PM
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Because you need to understand that wearing the baggy pants actively reflects who you are as a person.

I know that at 19, you want to show who you are and where you're from, but baby boy, at a certain point, you have to learn how to step up for yourself.

It's the same as if I was 19 and went to school with you. We might be friends, but if you SAW me all the time in a hoochie mama pair of pants and tube top, you could know that I was the brightest of the bright, but eventually, even you would get tired of defending me to your homeys that contuied to call me a "ho" or a "hoochie" or a "stanky skank" or a "hood rat."

I'm sorry, but the way that you dress, this is the first impression that people have of you.
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Old 03-15-2009, 08:22 PM
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No you haven't, however, the way that you were responding was a reflection of the attitude that you were feeling.

Baby boy, it's just about being able to grow up. We all have to have some reminders from time to time.

It's just about being able to have a reality check with ourselves.
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