what does it mean?

[Rudey]

Originally posted by Ch2tf
Please stop while you're ahead (although barely)

I'm sure being the 45th person to say the exact same comment must be pretty entertaining.

-Rudey

[PhrozenGod01]

There is a difference between saying someone is articulate and saying they are articulate for a black person.

I know. I've heard both. I was answering unspokeone's question directly. Refer to her question.

Anyway, it's that look of surprise, that innocently stated comment and assumption that I'm advanced or something because of the way I talk. Just like I make a distinct first impression, the people who make snap reactions also leave a distinct first impression.

[unspokenone25]

Originally posted by Rudey
So you can say some people have "no desire to learn" but someone else can't say another person is "articulate"?

I can say anything I want and from your posts, I would say you are not articulate.

-Rudey

Your opinion but my law firm and colleagues at my law school don't seem to think so.

[Ch2tf]

Originally posted by Rudey
I'm sure being the 45th person to say the exact same comment must be pretty entertaining.

-Rudey

Just as sure as I am that after gettin your @#% handed to you by some of the fellow GC'rs it's fun to rip on someone else.
Get a grip hun. I quoted her before I saw the posts of others.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by Ch2tf
Just as sure as I am that after gettin your @#% handed to you by some of the fellow GC'rs it's fun to rip on someone else.
Get a grip hun. I quoted her before I saw the posts of others.

"gettin your @#% handed to you"

What the heck are you talking about?

Are you acting silly again like when you said the exact same thing as others?

-Rudey

[33girl]

[PiKA2001]

[mulattogyrl]

^^LOL! I'm tired now. I don't feel like playing anymore. Talk to y'all later.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by unspokenone25
Your opinion but my law firm and colleagues at my law school don't seem to think so.

Everyone can have an opinon

And if your colleagues are calling you articulate, you should be offended according to your narrow interpretation of that word.

-Rudey

[unspokenone25]

Originally posted by PhrozenGod01
It happens to me every now and then... but usually over the phone with elderly friends of the family. I'll admit, I do sound a lot like Tiger Woods when I talk, and was the captain of my forensics team, but I usually get confused for a telemarketer when I'm just trying to thank someone for a birthday card or something. This one lady, who goes to my church treats me like one until I explain who I really am. Then she lightens up and tells me that I speak proper and that it's a good thing. I was the captain of my forensics and debate team so it was more unusual for me to speak in the popular vernacular most of the time.

Unspokenone, I do know where you're coming from. Just because I find communication important, there is no reason for people to patronize me. Anybody with sense speaks clearly, or at least tries to. Although my first impressions have allowed me to stand out at some favorable times, I've seen the look of surprise on some people's faces when they meet me in person. It makes me laugh. Not because it's funny, but because I'm just not that nice. I could rebut some insulting comments from people with even more assaulting assesments, but maybe I believe that some people don't think before they say things. I don't sometimes.


-one of the "GOOD" ones

Frat, I can also identify w/ everything that you have stated except I wasn't called "articulate" by my relatives.

[unspokenone25]

Originally posted by Rudey
Everyone can have an opinon

And if your colleagues are calling you articulate, you should be offended according to your narrow interpretation of that word.

-Rudey

They don't use the word b/c they know better to. I, unlike other GCers, will not be going back and forth with you. Discussion closed.

[Ch2tf]

Originally posted by Rudey
"gettin your @#% handed to you"

What the heck are you talking about?

Are you acting silly again like when you said the exact same thing as others?

-Rudey

And moving on....

[IvySpice]

Rudey, IMHO, it's a matter of clarity.

I do alumni interviewing for my alma mater, and I often have reason to point out that one applicant is a more effective and erudite speaker than another. But the word articulate, in particular, has become loaded because of the way it's been abused in the past. If I interview a black student who I think is the next Franklin Roosevelt, I'm going to praise his verbal skills in my evaluation, but I'll pick another way to say it. Why? Because otherwise, there's a very good chance that I'm going to be misunderstood. I'm NOT condescending to him, so I won't use language that's often used to express racial condescension.

There are a lot of otherwise neutral words and phrases ("boy"; "my best friend is ____"; etc.) that can take on poisonous meanings in the wrong context. If you want to make your meaning clear, it's best to choose different words.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by unspokenone25
They don't use the word b/c they know better to. I, unlike other GCers, will not be going back and forth with you. Discussion closed.

Well you asked for instanced of blacks calling others articulate and I provided them.

You also said your colleagues called you articulate, after I said I thought you weren't, clearly indicating that you consider articulate to not be a negative word.

I would understand why you wouldn't go back and forth. There isn't much of a case that you were able to make.

-Rudey

[Rudey]

Originally posted by IvySpice
Rudey, IMHO, it's a matter of clarity.

I do alumni interviewing for my alma mater, and I often have reason to point out that one applicant is a more effective and erudite speaker than another. But the word articulate, in particular, has become loaded because of the way it's been abused in the past. If I interview a black student who I think is the next Franklin Roosevelt, I'm going to praise his verbal skills in my evaluation, but I'll pick another way to say it. Why? Because otherwise, there's a very good chance that I'm going to be misunderstood. I'm NOT condescending to him, so I won't use language that's often used to express racial condescension.

There are a lot of otherwise neutral words and phrases ("boy"; "my best friend is ____"; etc.) that can take on poisonous meanings in the wrong context. If you want to make your meaning clear, it's best to choose different words.

Funny how to be articulate, you can't use that word.

-Rudey