Equal opportunity racism at UVa

[jubilance1922]

Originally posted by hoosier
These are the same people devoted to making African-Americans into perpetual "Victims".

People who think of themselves as Victims are likely to be failures, seeking power to make the government give them special favors, such as welfare, welfare housing, welfare scholarships, and just plain money.

And these people, and their allies, seek to empower Rev. Jesse Jackson and Rev. Al Sharpton (and give speeches every Sun. in A-A churches), while condemning any Christians who vote for George W. bush.

What does this have to do with anything? I personally don't think that African-Americans are perpetually victims. I think that there are people who hold power in this country who would like to keep in the catagory of "second class citizen". But then again, what do I know?

[jubilance1922]

Originally posted by ADPiZXalum
First, to say that it is impossible for a minority group to be racist towards a majority group is impossible is the biggest load of CRAP i've ever heard. I went to a school that was 97% Hispanic and EVERY day racist remarks were made towards me. I thought I was too good for them because my dad had a nice car. I better not look at them that way because I'd get my gringo ass kicked. I was a stupid cracker and racist because I didn't cry when Selina died. WHATEVER.
I agree that this incident alone may not have been racism. THe point is that it's not any different what he did and what the white guys did. And YES A MINORITY CAN BE RACIST TOWARDS A NON MINORITY.

If you say so honey....But my EXPERIENCE AS BEING TREATED AS A SECOND CLASS CITIZEN IN A COUNTRY THAT MY ANCESTORS HELP BUILD AGAINST THEIR WILL SAYS THAT YOU'RE WRONG.

But whatever helps you sleep at night....

Originally posted by jubilance1922
If you say so honey....But my EXPERIENCE AS BEING TREATED AS A SECOND CLASS CITIZEN IN A COUNTRY THAT MY ANCESTORS HELP BUILD AGAINST THEIR WILL SAYS THAT YOU'RE WRONG.

But whatever helps you sleep at night....

OH PLEASE!! If telling yourself that helps you sleep at night, rock on HONEY.

[Phasad1913]

Originally posted by hoosier
These are the same people devoted to making African-Americans into perpetual "Victims".

People who think of themselves as Victims are likely to be failures, seeking power to make the government give them special favors, such as welfare, welfare housing, welfare scholarships, and just plain money.

And these people, and their allies, seek to empower Rev. Jesse Jackson and Rev. Al Sharpton (and give speeches every Sun. in A-A churches), while condemning any Christians who vote for George W. bush.

So what about those SO-CALLED Christians who vote for george bush, and continuously perpetuate racial superiority to their children, maintain segregated schools and communities and live lives in complete disregard to the circumstances going on in areas of the country torn apart by poverty, lack of economic infrastructure, etc. etc. etc., all while maintaining the idea that somehow all of these problems happened out of nowhere? Do these people not exist in your head? I seriously want to know where YOU think those people have gone and if you even recognize that they exist and have power in this country?

Do you actually sit there and try to deny the REALITY staring you in the face that the overwhelming majority of wealth in this country is concentrated among white people, the overwhelming majority of major business and corporation ceo's are dispersed among white men, that the overwhelming majority or government officials in this country are white men? Where does the power structure in this country lie in YOUR mind? Why would any of the wealth and power in America just be conveyed to a minority group who never had it to begin with? That would simply go against man's natural tendencies. So, if that is the case, why is it SO hard for you to understand that when people seek retribution in the form of infrastructure (better communities, business incentives, etc.) education(better schools, higher paid teachers, etc.) and other services (finally giving the loan approvals and interest rates denied to the parents and ancestors of those living in poor housing today when other groups were offered them) from a government who PUT them in that position to begin with?

This is the problem with you, hoosier, and those who think like you. You are so blinded by your animosity toward Black people, that you cannot even think logically about why we feel the way that we do and seek the things that we seek. That ignorance leads to you make broad accusatory statements like the ones above that are based on nothing more than your inherent sence of racial hostility. Every post you make dealing with race smacks of anger obviously because you are not a part of the group that is to benefit from the badly needed reforms of the social structure in this country. If the tables were turned, you would be an advocate of the same things.But since the tables are not turned, and you cannot identity with me or anyone else in this particular group, you really should refrain from making your judgments. I have my conflicts with some things that those men you mentioned say but in general, I will always respect BOTH of them because they have seen and experienced things in their lifetimes that I didn't have to and because of their strength, boldness and resolve I am protected to a great deal from the evils of what it has been shown that this country CAN/could have do/done to me. So, if you don't understant that, that is YOUR problem and you need to work on that.

[moe.ron]

Originally posted by jubilance1922
Sorry to break this to you, but its impossible for a minority group to be racist against the majority group, based upon the definition of racism.

How do you explain apartheid South Africa?

[Senusret I]

Let's gooooooooo 99,999!

[SigmaChiGuy]

Know what I really enjoyed? When the black kids got to move into the dorms two days earlier than the rest of the students. hmmmmmm, thats fair.

[SigmaChiGuy]

LET IT GO! It didn't even happen to you.

Originally posted by jubilance1922
If you say so honey....But my EXPERIENCE AS BEING TREATED AS A SECOND CLASS CITIZEN IN A COUNTRY THAT MY ANCESTORS HELP BUILD AGAINST THEIR WILL SAYS THAT YOU'RE WRONG.

But whatever helps you sleep at night....

[FHwku]

"i love black people!"

[jubilance1922]

Originally posted by moe.ron
How do you explain apartheid South Africa?

Based on your name, I'll actually explain this one:

Majority and minority have NOTHING to do with numbers! It has to do with who holds the power in the society...

Would you like to try your answer again?

[Senusret I]

Originally posted by jubilance1922

Majority and minority have NOTHING to do with numbers! It has to do with who holds the power in the society...

I'll agree with that. The District of Columbia is a prime example.

[jubilance1922]

Originally posted by SigmaChiGuy
LET IT GO! It didn't even happen to you.

You're right I wasn't a slave...

But you know what happened to me?
Let's see:
*I've been followed around in stores, and I've never stole a day in my life.

*I've been told that I was a engineering major at my alma mater because of affirmative action. (NO, I'm just smarter than you!).

*I've had people act like I'm going to steal their purse.

*My friends and I are targeted by the police all the time.

So what did I do to deserve this? Nothing except be African American. I've never broken the law, I pay my taxes, and I pay my bills.

Maybe you should educate the people who think I'm a criminal just because of my color, since slavery didn't happen to me.

[jubilance1922]

Originally posted by ADPiZXalum
OH PLEASE!! If telling yourself that helps you sleep at night, rock on HONEY.

You'll never understand...maybe if you'll lucky you'll get the opportunity to see what minorities go through, and you'll be a bit more empathetic...or maybe you just like to toss and turn at night...

[PiPhiGirl2005]

ADPiZXalum, you rock my world. You say everything I want to say. Keep it up, please.

And I agree completely that a minority group can be racist. Racism has nothing to do with majority or minority or who is in power - it's a way of thinking that anyone can hold, I believe.

Originally posted by jubilance1922
You'll never understand...maybe if you'll lucky you'll get the opportunity to see what minorities go through, and you'll be a bit more empathetic...or maybe you just like to toss and turn at night...

And maybe if you are lucky one day you'll quit blaming everyone else for things they have no control over, like a horrible thing that happened A LONG FREAKING TIME AGO.