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Old 04-21-2005, 05:40 PM
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New York Governor George Pataki was in Iowa over the weekend and backed Stop Hillary Now- a PAC to stop Hillary Clinton if she runs for President... rumors over coffee this morning was that he'll throw his hat in the big ring by late September in order to stump speech for mid-cycle elections.
He has no chance of getting the nomination in 2008.
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Old 09-23-2005, 10:50 AM
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Somehow I believe the tables have turned on this in leiu of the latest disasters...

Anyone still think the Republicans have a chance?

Bush is kind of between a rock and a hard place right now because either:

A. Response to Rita is slack again and he's screwed for that

or

B. Response is good, everything is taken care of people get help, etc... and people say "Well, that's just because it's his home state, he would have responded to Katrina faster if he was from LA/NO/MS..."
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Old 09-23-2005, 11:26 AM
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Somehow I believe the tables have turned on this in leiu of the latest disasters...

Anyone still think the Republicans have a chance?

Bush is kind of between a rock and a hard place right now because either:

A. Response to Rita is slack again and he's screwed for that

or

B. Response is good, everything is taken care of people get help, etc... and people say "Well, that's just because it's his home state, he would have responded to Katrina faster if he was from LA/NO/MS..."
They said the same thing in 2001...that the republicans wouldnt make it. But they did.
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Old 09-23-2005, 11:35 AM
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Somehow I believe the tables have turned on this in leiu of the latest disasters...

Anyone still think the Republicans have a chance?

Bush is kind of between a rock and a hard place right now because either:

A. Response to Rita is slack again and he's screwed for that

or

B. Response is good, everything is taken care of people get help, etc... and people say "Well, that's just because it's his home state, he would have responded to Katrina faster if he was from LA/NO/MS..."

Remember that, historically, presidential elections are strongly influenced by economic concerns - in fact, some argue that economic concerns are primary AND secondary, and anything else is tertiary (for the majority of 'undecideds').

While gas prices may suffer from the disasters, there may be other economic boons coming from increased governmental spending to recreate these areas, etc etc. Add to this the fact that campaigning will not begin in earnest until 2007, and I think it's far too early to predict the economic effects (aka 'the topic of this thread').
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Old 09-23-2005, 11:41 AM
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They said the same thing in 2001...that the republicans wouldnt make it. But they did.
They also said that unknown governors from states like Georgia and Arkansas had no chance -- but they did.

I think Katrina and Iraq will be thorns in the GOP's side, but it may depend on whether the Democrats can come up with a viable candidate.

I'm not much of an economist, but I just can't see how we continue to prosecute the war and pay for these disasters and rebuilding of New Orleans without at least rolling back some of the upper income tax cuts.

Won't some of the lenders want some of that deficit paid back someday, somehow?
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Old 09-23-2005, 11:49 AM
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I think the Republicans still have a very good chance in 2008. If Bush were able to run again, he might have trouble. But, I think the fact that it will be new candidates will make a difference.

I do like John McCain.
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Old 09-23-2005, 11:51 AM
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Bush should be granted a third term based on his stellar work so far.
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Old 09-23-2005, 12:21 PM
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Pataki have very low chance of getting a nomination from the Republicans. New York State version of a Republican is vastly different from those that dominate the party. Pataki is a social liberal and fiscal conservative. No way the bible belt would let a pro-abortion, gay friendly politician represent them.
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Old 09-23-2005, 12:35 PM
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If anyone wants to make a wager on the election, I'm here to take that bet.

The prize: the hamburger of the winner's choice.

I will bet that the next president will be a Republican.

I have nothing to lose barring some sort of ridiculous disaster (like a comet hitting the earth). The Democrats are suffering from 2 large problems: 1) the ability to play the political game and 2) the inability to move away from certain policies and propose better ones. The only person that may accomplish number 2 is Hillary or Lieberman - the only Democrat centrists with any cloud left. There isn't a single person able to take on the first problem.

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Old 09-24-2005, 04:38 PM
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President, Republican as the Democrates cant hit their asses with both hands and are in such a disaray!

Hillary, Bitch get out! She is a carpetbagger from the South to The North! When if the hell did she live in NY long enough and get voted in, GAG! Rice with the experience would be or could be the first Female. Says she wont run. Colon Powell, a Black Man, but very astuite and knowledgeable. Hope He is smart enough to tell them to stick it!

Just watch to see who will emerge from the Hurricans as a Main Man!

Maybe the General of N O or The Admiral of the Coast Guard of N O!

Sorry to say, but watch out for Sam Brownnose oops Brownback! Oh, Ks.

Snake Oil from the get go! Saw that When I went to His First major campaign!

A little Moustach would work for Him!

Tom "Fist" of Tenn. is touting a possible run. God if He gets any more black marks against Himself, He ought to resign from Congress. But, You have to admit, He has some stones in his jockey shorts just to keep hanging in.
I want to reprise the Thread and Be President!!!!

First job is to kick out the old shit head boot lickers and get in new ones! Hell, Most of us know more than the dill wads there!
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Old 09-25-2005, 02:39 PM
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i thought the rule on GC was to not give an opinion unless you have facts written to back it up.
If this was a rule, this forum would crash and burn, or at least have a foot-long nose.
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Old 09-25-2005, 03:32 PM
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If this was a rule, this forum would crash and burn, or at least have a foot-long nose.
It would be nice if we all labeled our opinions instead of presenting them as fact, though.
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Old 09-25-2005, 03:51 PM
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Somehow I believe the tables have turned on this in leiu of the latest disasters...

Anyone still think the Republicans have a chance?
Nope!

Edit: Actually, Tom was onto something there about Powell. But he won't run... he had the chance a few years ago and turned it down, didn't he?
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Old 09-25-2005, 04:03 PM
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Nope as I said Colin P is smart enough to say are You out of your mind!

Colin can do more behind the scenes without His hands tied!


Oh, Frist, HCA, a Company that He Helped or started sold Stock from reported inside trading ergo Martha!

Oh, maybe He should go to the Pen?

Oh, never mind, He is above the Law!
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