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05-17-2004, 05:42 PM
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What Erik Said!
There are some GC members who collect Rituals. But they have The Idealism to not let them be given out to everyone.
Each and everyone of them have Respect for for Other Greek Organizations for what they have.
I would not even tell my then wife about mine and will never tell anyone for what I strived so hard to attain.
I and only I have strived to attain Brotherhood. I earned it did not you?
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05-19-2004, 11:42 PM
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Originally posted by thermobryan
Whats funny is when ppl think they know what your letters mean and its totally off....Some idiots at my school think that PiKA stands for Praise King Arthur...OH NO! I gave away the secret!!!
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dude that is what it means
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05-21-2004, 03:47 PM
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dude that is what it means
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Oh S**T, im sorry man...Well, can't wait til the movie comes out about our man King Arthur...
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05-22-2004, 11:29 PM
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I've heard random information over the years, and know bits and pieces of a couple other orgs' stuff. It's interesting from a standpoint of seeing similarities and differences, but nothing I would ever share with anyone else.
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06-22-2004, 07:12 PM
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No, but I have had people come up and tell me they know secrets of Pi Phi's...they were wrong. But one time my great-great-grand-bigsis told me she was in a bar and a guy came up to her and did our handshake. So she punched him once in the arm for being so disrespectful to our fraternity and again in the other arm for whoever showed him the handshake.
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06-22-2004, 07:57 PM
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I can honestly say no. Even if someone were to try and volunteer it, I'd change the subject b/c I'm not a member and I don't need to know.
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06-23-2004, 03:17 PM
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No I don't know and don't care to know.
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06-23-2004, 04:06 PM
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I do not know the secret information of any other GLO's than my own.
I dont want to know either. As we would tell PNM's coming through recruitment when they asked about our secret stuff, "that's a privilege for initiated members to know."
Having said that, unless some of the secrets causes someone physical/emotional harm or is an illegal practice of some kind(usually these kinds of things eventually come to light anyway by news media and court proceedings--in other words forms of hazing), I have no desires to know the secrets of any other GLO's than my own.
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06-23-2004, 04:12 PM
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I was told what the secret letters a certain other National always sign on everything mean. Don't know if it's true or not, don't really care.
I have dated some frat boys in my past who blabbed a lot of their secret stuff to me. Some of it was quite outrageous I must say.
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06-23-2004, 04:46 PM
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Well, i've been told by several people that a certain fraternity used to have a close association with us from the beginning of our founding and therefore our rituals are very similar and our grips are identical. another sister with a fiance in this frat confirmed it...
i remember hearing a story about a girl who was kicked out of her sorority right before rush. she was so pissed off that she came early in the morning to the house before one of the rounds and put up a bedsheet with the sorority's secret motto and what it meant spraypainted in HUGE letters across their porch! luckily, another sorority girl was doing her early morning jog, took it down and banged on their door to wake up the sisters and tell them. It was a huge scandal because this sorority was known for screaming their motto in cheers and signing everything with it, but they would NEVER reveal what it meant.
another time a non-greek guy friend who had zero respect for greeks came up to me and was all like "I know your secret handshake" and for a split-second i was horrified, but then he did the grip and all i could think of is "Thank God he's a moron!" because the handshake he did was like something out of Saved by the Bell. And he actually believed that he was right.
i have to admit though that i would definitely be curious about other rituals only because i like stories and secrets. i don't think that i would actively seek out people to tell me or spend $50 for a ritual book on ebay or anything...
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06-23-2004, 06:31 PM
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We just recently had a member give up her letters and then exchange secrets with a fraternity guy. Well, ex-fraternity guy, I guess, because he's getting kicked out now also...
But as for myself... I don't know others' secrets and I don't care to, like the rest have said. The only ones that mean anything to me are my own, anyway.
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06-24-2004, 01:48 PM
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i'd rather not post it because then if someone knows either of ours, they might be like "AHA! i knew it!" and i wouldn't want to piss anyone off that way
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06-24-2004, 02:18 PM
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What's the big deal? It's public info. AXO was founded with the assistance of James Howe and James Campbell, who were Betas.
I see no special similarity between the 2 rituals.
People always wonder about similarities with the Farmville Four, the fraternity Triads, the Ida Shaw rituals, KS and XO, Beta and AXO, DKE and Sigma Chi, etc. Other than the usual similarities between GLO rituals, they're not much the same at all.
That's not surprising, for a lot of reasons...
If you're creative enough to be able to write a ritual, you're probably not just going to do an exact copy of the one you know over and over. Although it would have been funny if Ida Shaw had written exactly the same ritual for all the groups. It would be like in that movie Bring It On when they realize East Compton High is doing their same cheerleading routine.
If you're a fraternity guy trying to help a bunch of girls write a sorority ritual, you're probably not going to divulge any secrets of your own group. Because let's face it, these guys probably didn't take the girls seriously and were just trying to get a date.
If you're starting a new group, you're probably going to try to differentiate yourself from existing groups on the same campus, so your ritual will reflect that.
And if you're founded as a protest against an existing group, again you're going to have very different beliefs and ideals and therefore very different rituals.
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06-24-2004, 02:30 PM
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That's what I would think - I can't imagine Kappa Sig Richardson sitting down with the Chi Omegas and saying "Well, this is what we do, so we'll tweak it a bit for you."
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06-24-2004, 03:07 PM
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well thanks wptw for posting that even when i said that i didn't want to
but now my curiosity is fulfilled if what you say is true about the two not being very similar. i wondered to what extent that assistance carried over in ritual, but what you say makes sense, especially when you think about the individuality factor
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