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Old 06-01-2004, 11:25 AM
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And if it makes you feel any better, Intense, I knew about that little tidbit of information before I read the 5th book, and it didn't ruin it for me
As did I. But when I found out... then I read the book... I forgot all about the spoiler.
(And I read the spoiler on GC too. Serves me right. )

YAY! I'm seeing the movie Friday!
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Old 06-01-2004, 11:31 AM
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Seriously... I mean the 5th book was intense enough with Sirius dying (and everything else that happened.) But to kill off the main character? Wow. If Harry does pass, I commend her for not writing the traditional "happy, fluffy bunny" children's book series, but even knowing the ending, I think the outcome will still shock me.

Anxiously awaiting the 6th and currently re-reading the 3rd.
I really think this is a red herring!. I know she *said* he was dead...but I don't believe he is going to stay gone. When what happened to him happened...no one in the book EVER said he was dead. He *passed through* the portal, he *went* to the other side, he *is not with us* anymore...

Those were all lines in reference to the event. Think about it.
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Old 06-01-2004, 11:36 AM
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I really think this is a red herring!. I know she *said* he was dead...but I don't believe he is going to stay gone. When what happened to him happened...no one in the book EVER said he was dead. He *passed through* the portal, he *went* to the other side, he *is not with us* anymore...

Those were all lines in reference to the event. Think about it.
That's very true. Everyone just assumed Sirius was dead.

However I don't see her bringing him back. She's not afraid to talk about death and dying and loss in her books and I think it's a theme that she wants the readers and her characters to deal with.
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Old 06-01-2004, 11:37 AM
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I really think this is a red herring!. I know she *said* he was dead...but I don't believe he is going to stay gone. When what happened to him happened...no one in the book EVER said he was dead. He *passed through* the portal, he *went* to the other side, he *is not with us* anymore...

Those were all lines in reference to the event. Think about it.
True... I often wondered about that. Watch... he'll return at the end of book 7.

****Book 5 speculation/spoiler****

But didn't Luna's parents go thru that portal too? (Or was it Nelville's? Can't remember...)
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Old 06-01-2004, 11:40 AM
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True... I often wondered about that. Watch... he'll return at the end of book 7.

****Book 5 speculation/spoiler****

But didn't Luna's parents go thru that portal too? (Or was it Nelville's? Can't remember...)
It must have been Luna's. Weren't Neville's parents in the hospital because they had been cursed by Voldermort. That's why he lived with his grandmother.

(I really need to re-read the books)
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Old 06-01-2004, 11:42 AM
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It must have been Luna's. Weren't Neville's parents in the hospital because they had been cursed by Voldermort. That's why he lived with his grandmother.

(I really need to re-read the books)
Oh that's right... his parents aren't dead.
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Old 06-01-2004, 02:34 PM
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My friend is actually going to still be in Germany when it is released (part of a college trip) but I made her SWORE she won't see it until she comes back to America. She was also nervous that it was going to be in German (like they dubbed the voices, instead of German subtitles). Do you know how it is going to be done?
The one I'm going to see will be dubbed in German. (But that's OK for me because I speak German.) Some theaters are showing it in English, no subtitles, but none in Heidelberg where I live. If your friend wants to see it in Germany (even though she promised not to ) she should look for somewhere showing the original version.

And lauralaylin, I get to see it early because it comes out a day earlier in Germany. No idea why. So with the time difference, I get to see it a full 30 hours before anyone in America.
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Old 06-01-2004, 05:12 PM
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I really think this is a red herring!. I know she *said* he was dead...but I don't believe he is going to stay gone. When what happened to him happened...no one in the book EVER said he was dead. He *passed through* the portal, he *went* to the other side, he *is not with us* anymore...

Those were all lines in reference to the event. Think about it.
JKR has said in several interviews that when people die in HP, they stay dead. I highly doubt that Sirius is coming back.


Anyhoo, back to the topic at hand, my boyfriend and I Fandango'd our tickets for Saturday night. We're going at 10 pm, so hopefully there won't be any annoying screaming kiddies around!
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Old 06-01-2004, 07:40 PM
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I pre-ordered my tickets last week for the IMAX showing at 10:00 am, I know that I'm asking for kids, but I think that since school is not out yet, I have a fighting chance of *not* too much noise.

As for Sirius....he is DEAD, it kills me to "say" it, remember the "double" sided mirror and harry attempted to contact him? it didn't happen.

If I recall Luna's mother is dead. Neville's parents are in St. Mungo's because an unforgivable curse was performed on them, the name escapes me at the moment. I also knew (don't remember when) that Neville was going to be just as/ could have been as important as Harry.

I knew in the middle of GOF that Percy was going to be a problem and he is.

I still think (and I truly hope that I'm wrong) that Ron is going to turn on Harry and side with Voldy, but in the end come back from "the dark side" (oh my that was way to star wars even from a SW geek). Just think back to PS/SS and the Mirror and GOF and to some extent OoTP, Ron very easily turns on Harry or gets embarrased when something good happens to him and not Harry. He also has a big complex about his older brothers and to some extent Ginny.


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Old 06-01-2004, 08:42 PM
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And if it makes you feel any better, Intense, I knew about that little tidbit of information before I read the 5th book, and it didn't ruin it for me
It's fine LOL. I just can't read the rest of this thread until I get caught up in the books.
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Old 06-01-2004, 09:14 PM
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Still in the processof convincing my grandma to go with me....I probably won't see it for another couple of weeks, because I'm sure by now a lot of the theaters have already pre-sold many of the showings and I wouldn't get in to see it until sometime in the next few weeks, anyways
Okay, so I've convinced my grandma to go, AND we're going to a 10:30 showing this Friday (I love Fandango!)

*doing a happy dance while getting ready to "re-read"/skim POA*
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Old 06-01-2004, 09:37 PM
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As for Sirius....he is DEAD, it kills me to "say" it, remember the "double" sided mirror and harry attempted to contact him? it didn't happen.

Ms. Gwyn
I am not buying it. A red herring is that a red herring. It can make the story more exciting. Just cause he couldn't be contacted with the other side of the mirror....different dimension, realm etc.

When Harry's parents are referred to the word "dead" is used, when those that were killed by Peter whatshisname (wormtail) were killed the word killed and dead were used. With Sirius it is never used. Phrases such as "he is not with us", "he is on the other side" "he has passed over" are used. Maybe, just maybe, this archway is difficult to get back through again. Until then, I am going to keep hoping Sirius is still *alive* and just not with us.
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Old 06-02-2004, 03:35 AM
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When Sirius went through the archway, did Bellatrix Lestrange go with him? I remember that's who he was fighting at the time. I, too, think they're dancing around it a bit much. *Something* happens when you go through that arch, and it's not normal death.

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Old 06-02-2004, 10:49 AM
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Old 06-02-2004, 11:30 AM
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I pre-ordered my tickets last week for the IMAX showing at 10:00 am, I know that I'm asking for kids, but I think that since school is not out yet, I have a fighting chance of *not* too much noise.

As for Sirius....he is DEAD, it kills me to "say" it, remember the "double" sided mirror and harry attempted to contact him? it didn't happen.

If I recall Luna's mother is dead. Neville's parents are in St. Mungo's because an unforgivable curse was performed on them, the name escapes me at the moment. I also knew (don't remember when) that Neville was going to be just as/ could have been as important as Harry.

I knew in the middle of GOF that Percy was going to be a problem and he is.

I still think (and I truly hope that I'm wrong) that Ron is going to turn on Harry and side with Voldy, but in the end come back from "the dark side" (oh my that was way to star wars even from a SW geek). Just think back to PS/SS and the Mirror and GOF and to some extent OoTP, Ron very easily turns on Harry or gets embarrased when something good happens to him and not Harry. He also has a big complex about his older brothers and to some extent Ginny.


I'm an HP nuts and like breathesgelatin, I visit Schnoogle.com and the like.

Ms. Gwyn
Good insight... I forgot about Nelville. He and Harry have the same birthday and wasn't there some important "fact" about that in the 5th book? Like Voldy might have the two boys confused? Or something. I just finished re-reading the 3rd book for Friday... now I am wondering if I need to re-read the last two.

Ok... how are you all getting Fandango tix for Saturday? I went there today (Wednesday) and it told me they weren't selling any tickets until tomorrow and they were for the 12:01 shows on Thursday/Friday. I really want to pre-order them because I am afraid it will be packed, but it's not letting me. Is there a trick?
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