Another cultural phenomenon: Rape

[Rudey]

Originally posted by _Opi_
^ lmao, are you forreal? I guess the only thing you got to your name is your letters..and thats what makes you who you are, right? well hon, I don' t know how y'all do it where your from, but I have alot of greek friends who tell me that "you make the letters, the letters don't make you"...in any case, this chatroom is not exclusively greek..there are some GDIs in here as well (if you havent noticed)..so I don't know what kind of points you are tryna make.

you r truly sad, sad being!!!!!

ps: I am graced with alot of things..and I don't need letters to tell me who I should be..or join an org to gain some friends who "care"....Ok!

You are "graced" with stupidity. The good lord was kind when delivering that to you. He blessed you with mountains of it.

-Rudey
--Please leave.

[enlightenment06]

this is one of the liveliest threads I've seen on GC. I'm glad people stopped being so PC around and started saying what they really think.

[_Opi_]

Originally posted by Tom Earp


Why is religion or race even brought into this thread.?

Tom, because some of the comments rudey said off hand were religion-based (i.e. stoning and such).

comment 1: "ok guys i'm referring to the immigrants (99% of which coming from Arab and African countries) that have come into Western (in this case French) society." This is the assumption that all african and arab muslims who come to western societies are barbaric. This is offending b/c i am both african-canadian and muslim ...so I take this comment as a personal insult.

comment 2: "Sorry but you're wrong. We do not have stoning in our culture. We don't rape women and consider it acceptable; it's large believed to be a horrible crime. I've lived for 6 years in one of the most fundamentalist islamic countries in the world. Trust me when I say there is absolutely no comparison you can make that Christians in America do the same things. " Another dangerous assumption here. He is giving people Muslim people a bad name when he suggests that rape and stoning is OK, when it is NOT. How countries behave and how muslim people in the western world behave is two separate things. You are mixing civilians with politicians. Again he shows this is a religious matter when he refers to "Christian" americans...as if to say one is better than the other..again, this is a false assumption.

Comment 3: "Either way this is more about how some people try to use their culture to excuse certain vile acts. If you behead them like in Mecca, I think they might not like their culture." again he is suggesting that all muslim people are from saudi arabia..because no two muslim country has the CULTURE....makes me wonder if he truly lived overseas!


So Tom, as you can see, There IS a race and religious issue here in this thread.

[Rudey]

Tom ignore this girl. People have made remarks to her and posed questions or showed her where she was wrong - her only response is to ignore them, say she's offended, and make other bizarre comments.

-Rudey
--Jesus saves. Convert now!!!

Originally posted by _Opi_
Tom, because some of the comments rudey said off hand were religion-based (i.e. stoning and such).

comment 1: "ok guys i'm referring to the immigrants (99% of which coming from Arab and African countries) that have come into Western (in this case French) society." This is the assumption that all african and arab muslims who come to western societies are barbaric. This is offending b/c i am both african-canadian and muslim ...so I take this comment as a personal insult.

comment 2: "Sorry but you're wrong. We do not have stoning in our culture. We don't rape women and consider it acceptable; it's large believed to be a horrible crime. I've lived for 6 years in one of the most fundamentalist islamic countries in the world. Trust me when I say there is absolutely no comparison you can make that Christians in America do the same things. " Another dangerous assumption here. He is giving people Muslim people a bad name when he suggests that rape and stoning is OK, when it is NOT. How countries behave and how muslim people in the western world behave is two separate things. You are mixing civilians with politicians. Again he shows this is a religious matter when he refers to "Christian" americans...as if to say one is better than the other..again, this is a false assumption.

Comment 3: "Either way this is more about how some people try to use their culture to excuse certain vile acts. If you behead them like in Mecca, I think they might not like their culture." again he is suggesting that all muslim people are from saudi arabia..because no two muslim country has the CULTURE....makes me wonder if he truly lived overseas!


So Tom, as you can see, There IS a race and religious issue here in this thread.

[Tom Earp]

Opi, it is not?

Well, if I am not mistaken, the stoning and behaeding, the cutting off of parts oif a persons appendeages for a vialoation of the Law is still going on!

If you want to get technical, if all Religions believe in Peace and forgiveness, then what the hell is happening all over the world?

For one of the few Times, I agree With Rudey!

Does Rape, Pillage, and Plunder ring a bell?

Does Blowing up The UN Building, The Red Cross Buildings, or the Police Stations run by Iraqies say that is Humain? How about the bazaars of book sellers, or the other Sellers in the Bsazzars.

Is the democracy as we know it proper, how about Communism, or the Islamic Fundalists who profess Piece and Kill People who are innocent!?

The people who have beleifs of what only they think are nothing more than Animals

Disagree what you may, but this is not the site unless you have Dead Bang Proof!

[KSig RC]

Originally posted by _Opi_
Tom, because some of the comments rudey said off hand were religion-based (i.e. stoning and such).

last chance, here we go.

Originally posted by _Opi_
comment 1: "ok guys i'm referring to the immigrants (99% of which coming from Arab and African countries) that have come into Western (in this case French) society." This is the assumption that all african and arab muslims who come to western societies are barbaric. This is offending b/c i am both african-canadian and muslim ...so I take this comment as a personal insult.

While the numbers are fallacious . . . so is your personalization of them. Also, he is limiting his point to those in France . . . that's nothing to do with your culture, so why would you be offended? Unless there's some universal Muslim culture (which is a point we all refute)?

Originally posted by _Opi_
comment 2: "Sorry but you're wrong. We do not have stoning in our culture. We don't rape women and consider it acceptable; it's large believed to be a horrible crime. I've lived for 6 years in one of the most fundamentalist islamic countries in the world. Trust me when I say there is absolutely no comparison you can make that Christians in America do the same things. " Another dangerous assumption here. He is giving people Muslim people a bad name when he suggests that rape and stoning is OK, when it is NOT. How countries behave and how muslim people in the western world behave is two separate things. You are mixing civilians with politicians. Again he shows this is a religious matter when he refers to "Christian" americans...as if to say one is better than the other..again, this is a false assumption.

This is borderline nonsense, but we'll discuss. First of all, his implication was NOT what you say it is, to my mind. He was saying that a culture that believes rape is a matter of circumstance and reality does not exist in (primarily Christian) America. Others made the point that Christians do stupid crap too, and he was providing a macro example to dispute microphenomena. Rudey is NOT Christian, so he has no reason to shelter these interests; rather, he was pointing out the implicit flaws in this CULTURE (not the fucking religion, get that through your immensely thick dome!).

Originally posted by _Opi_
Comment 3: "Either way this is more about how some people try to use their culture to excuse certain vile acts. If you behead them like in Mecca, I think they might not like their culture." again he is suggesting that all muslim people are from saudi arabia..because no two muslim country has the CULTURE....makes me wonder if he truly lived overseas!

Oh my LORD. He is saying that if this culture was MORE like the one in Mecca . . . that indicates that he KNOWS they're not the same. READ. UNDERSTAND.

Also, your point about no two muslim nations having the same culture pretty much shows that you have the capability to understand the conversation. Meditate, harness it, and then get back to me.

For the love of crap.

Originally posted by _Opi_
So Tom, as you can see, There IS a race and religious issue here in this thread.

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.

[_Opi_]

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Opi, it is not?

Well, if I am not mistaken, the stoning and behaeding, the cutting off of parts oif a persons appendeages for a vialoation of the Law is still going on!

If you want to get technical, if all Religions believe in Peace and forgiveness, then what the hell is happening all over the world?

For one of the few Times, I agree With Rudey!

Does Rape, Pillage, and Plunder ring a bell?

Does Blowing up The UN Building, The Red Cross Buildings, or the Police Stations run by Iraqies say that is Humain? How about the bazaars of book sellers, or the other Sellers in the Bsazzars.

Is the democracy as we know it proper, how about Communism, or the Islamic Fundalists who profess Piece and Kill People who are innocent!?

The people who have beleifs of what only they think are nothing more than Animals

Disagree what you may, but this is not the site unless you have Dead Bang Proof!

Tom, the problem is that alot of people don't know the difference between Culture, Politics and Religion.....

[Rudey]

Originally posted by _Opi_
Tom, the problem is that alot of people don't know the difference between Culture, Politics and Religion.....

Honestly you really make people want to endorse stoning.

-Rudey
--It's sad, but true.