curious

What is with this "Down with the man" mentallity? It's hipocracy and racism at its finest as far as I'm concerned. I don't understand why a black person saying blacks and whites should stick with their own is called racial pride, but a white man saying the same thing is a bigot and racist. Could someone clear this up for me? thanks.

Steve

[ManndingoNUPE]

Man, why is it that you find soooo many spelling mistakes after you post, and none when you are posting.

Somebody put me in "Da Kut" next time I post a misspelling.

[Wynna]

DELTABRAT,

Thanks. I try maintain respect for people as individuals. I just want people to understand that this is a grand scale problem and has nothing to do with individuals. I am for and about uplifting MY people and it's time things change.

Anyway, I'm from L.A. too. I think we're both going to looking for jobs around here if we continue to keep this up! Stay strong!

Originally posted by DELTABRAT:
That is not the case in AmeriKKKa. We know this.

I think that this type of reference to America is very disrespectful. You may not agree to what happens in America (Lord knows I don't always), but at least this country does allow you the freedom to say so! You are given this privelege (free speech) because this is America and not a country that censor's what its constituents say. My grandfathers, uncles, and father fought (and many died) in wars that allowed us the freedom we have today. I can understand people having differing opinions about society today, but not being disrespectful in regards to the freedoms that this country affords. If you truly feel that you will never get ahead here, then why stay? I really have never heard a good answer to this question. If its so terribly bad that you can't stand to be here...then go! At least you know you'll have the freedom to do so.

[ManndingoNUPE]

consideration,

Our people have been in each war that this country has been in, so I don't think that we have to go anywhere! Hell, my father faught in Vietnam, only to come back home and be called a term that I will not use here. So for those men and women, that have shed their blood for me to stay here and say what the hell I want to, I will do just that.

Look, this is silly, this is probably more devicive than it is helpfull. Moderator, please close this thread, it is pretty much done. Nothing good will come of it.

Peace and Luv to all

[prettygyrl]

I try and try not to post in here but whenever I see that things are misconstrued some I really have to cLarify! first of all where and when did I say that it was ok for Blacks to commit crimes against whites i never said that!............HER STORY IT IS REALLY unfortunate what happened to your family. Like I said before I never said that that type of behavior was ok. Things like that happen in our communities everyday. Then on top of that we must endure the hate crimes not to mention the police who like to use us for target practice! So see we are dying left and right! Unfortunately the things that happen to your family and to ours are happening at the hands of our people that are a product of what your people helped mold and shape them into! I know you would not like to beleive that and so would alot of others but it is true! This is not to say that it is ok this is just to tell you why it happens. That mf ( as you called him) that hurt your family is part of the repercussions of the pain we endure at the hands of your people. Take a walk in some of these ghettos and you will see what your people are allowing and even making sure of to happen to some of us. If you knew our history you would see how this white society could rasie and put out into the world such a person as the one that hurt your family. I mean I can not even begin to go into this on this forum and since I do not know you, you will have to take the time and do some research yourself. BUT what you expect out of one that comes from where this person probably came from. I am not saying he should go unpunished. You have to realize that your people have created alot of monsters(so to speak) but they will sit back as if they had nothing to with some Young Black man who goes on a rampage as the one who hurt your family! Society is responsible, your people are just as responsible as the man who committed the crime. Whether you believe it or not it is true. I am sorry you had to go through such pain in your family. You should try and do some deep research on my people and maybe this person and you will see where one might get to be so heartless and angry. They learned it from the massa. tk1507 dear i do not think of any white person as racist if they say they should stick to there own kind. I think that is what we need to do. I have a problem with hate groups and there violent tactics period. I believe that we should stick to our own and you to yours but I do not hate you nor would i want you to die because your skin color is differnt its people like that I consider racist! Consideraton.......I do not know your race but WE really do not have as much FREEDOM to what WE want as you claim! Black people are still very limited in what they are allowed to do! In all actuality I think that in some aspects some people have TOO much freedom cause I really feel that somethings should not be printed nor shown on TV! I think that the galmourizing of some things really cause those things to continue to happen. THATS A WHOLE OTHER SUBJECT! MUCH LOVE MY PEEPS

[HER_STORY]

prettygyrl !!!!!!!!!! what are you talking about your people......our people...... i am BLACK just like you !!!!!!! thats why i said it didn't lessen the pain.

[DELTABRAT]

Her_Story:

I am sorry that that happened. That is really unfortunate. I misunderstood your post. NO there is NOT a difference in the pain and suffering felt. You don't say "Well the man who did x,y,z was Black, so it's okay). No! I thought you meant in terms of punishment for the crime. I am so sorry.

[DELTABRAT]

Consideration:

Based on your post I have to say that clearly I have the "right" to call this place what I want to. Your fathers, uncles? What about my fathers uncles who built this place without an iota of credit?
Don't tell me who fought for "freedom." And since we're on the subject what freedom are you speaking of? Mine is probably a whole lot different from yours.

[prettygyrl]

well the way it was put I thought you were white but still, I never said anyway anything about a black mans crime is less than a whites man. Never! I do still say that in most instances ( with Black people) you can pretty much see exactly where and how one went very wrong in his or her life! You would be surprised what opression does to some but then again you may already know. I do not know why people in here started talking to me about the crimes that White People and Black people commit. I never said nothing about a White person being murdered by Black person was okay nor vice versa. I lobby against the death penality so why would I say it was ok for ANYONE to harm ANYONE ELSE! oBVIOUSLY SOMEONE WAS WAY OFF IF THEY GO THAT OUT OF ONE OF MY POST!

If you truly feel that you will never get ahead here, then why stay? I really have never heard a good answer to this question. If its so terribly bad that you can't stand to be here...then go! At least you know you'll have the freedom to do so.

[AlphaChiGirl]

"If you truly feel that you will never get ahead here, then why stay? I really have never heard a good answer to this question. If its so terribly bad that you can't stand to be here...then go! At least you know you'll have the freedom to do so."
--I know I've said this to a few people before, with blank stares. Frankly, we all know, even with the discrimination experienced by so many, that America is the only place where we can properly exercise our rights. If anyone is so unhappy, why doesn't he or she just leave?

[ManndingoNUPE]

God, why are we beating this horse. He is dead and stinking, and none of us smells it yet.

I can speak for me only. I stay becuase this is the best thing going. I would not want to live (well mayb just to visit other places),any where else in the world. The US is the best thing going.

But I get really irritated with people who say "well if you don't like it, why don't you go somewhere else?"

For those who have ears but do not listen, for those that have eyes, but fail to see, my answer to your question is, that this is the best thing going, and my people have died for this country, and it would be disrespectfull to turn tail and leave, as opposed to stay here and try to change things. That is my answer to your question, if you need more, I can easily write you a book, but I don't have time, or the desire to do so. If that doesn't satisfy your question, then that is your problem.

Respectfully Yours

Manndingo Nupe

[AXO Alum]

Originally posted by ManndingoNUPE:
God, why are we beating this horse. He is dead and stinking, and none of us smells it yet.

ManndingoNUPE - I am LMAO at this one! Thank you, thank you, thank you for putting this so eloquently and poetically! Your words have put a tear in my eye I agree - this topic cannot and will not ever be resolved on this type of forum. I don't know how in the world it came around to be this misconstrued, only that I will have to back you up 110% on this one!

[icytre]

I truely wasn't going to respond, but I kept seeing people ask "Well if you don't like it here, why don't you leave."

Forgive me, but I have heard this redneck slogan for years.

I shouldn't have to go anywhere to be treated equal, period!!!! I don't run from problems!! I should be treated the same in America as any white person.

Who are you to ask me to leave, when I was drug here unwantingly!!! (let's not take this literally) If you brought me here, deal with me and treat me right!!!

That's the problem, people want to run away, or send people away from the problem. I think that is a copout.