Brother/Sister Frats/Sororities

[HotDamnImAPhiMu]

See, I've heard the same thing about Phi Mu and Kappa Sigma (Phi Mu has two noteable male members: Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson. Jackson is a Kappa Sig.)

That could be b/c the boyfriend's a Kappa Sig though.

On my campus we're supposed to have the Kappa Sigs as brothers -- this Phi Mu chapter grew out of a local, Omega Delta Epsilon, which grew out of the little sister organization of Kappa Sigma.


And YES -- Chi Omega and Chi Omega Alpha are different groups. Alpha Chi Omega is different, too, which is maybe what you were thinking of. You'll get jumped for sure for that one.

[White_Chocolate]

The story of how our sorority got on campus. . .

We were a local sorority, Theta Chi Omega and there was a national, Sigma Kappa. Well, all of the PIKES were dating Theta Chi Omegas because the SKs were too 'bookwormish'. So, the PIKES BEGGED them to go national. So, our local sorority did some research and they decided to go with a sorority that was close to PIKES.

No one can say they are a brother/sister but PIKE and Phi Sigma Sigma. . .because we have the exact same slogan but the names are different. PIKES and PHI SIGS know what I'm talking about. . .

ONCE A. . .



hmmm, they know.

[Quala67]

Alpha Phi Omega National Service Fraternity Inc. has no relationship with any other greek organization. We are not the Brother fraternity to Gamma Sigma Sigma, nor are they APO's Sister fraternity. APO, on a National level, is not "bound" to any other organization. Both org's are based on the ideals of service to humanity, however.

[FHwku]

Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
See, I've heard the same thing about Phi Mu and Kappa Sigma (Phi Mu has two noteable male members: Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson. Jackson is a Kappa Sig.)

That could be b/c the boyfriend's a Kappa Sig though.

i thought Robert E. Lee was Kappa Alpha order.

[breathesgelatin]

To clear everything up, I'm pretty sure Robert E. Lee wasn't Greek at all. He went to West Point US Military Academy. Someone w/ Baird's can check if there were ever fraternities there, because I don't know. He may have connections with some sorority but it would have to be ADPi or Phi Mu, because he died in 1870 around the time that most of the other groups (Pi Phi, Theta, Kappa) were getting started. (Unless the connection is w/ his daughter/granddaugher something like that).

Kappa Alpha Order claims Robert E. Lee as its "spiritual founder". To my knowledge he was never initiated or anything of that matter. KA was founded in Robinson Hall at Washington and Lee University (my school) during Robert E. Lee's tenure as President.

If I'm wrong on any of this, let me know, but I don't see how either Lee or Jackson could be in fraternities unless there were fraternities at West Point during their college years. (Jackson went to West Point and was later a professor at Virginia Military Institute (across the street from W&L) where Sigma Nu and Alpha Tau Omega were founded. Although now revered, his students hated him and made mean jokes about him through his tenure at VMI. VMI now bans all fraternities... Although I think the senior class might be "honorary" members of Sigma Nu... Or something... They come to parties sometime and try to pretend they are SNus... But since I know all of the SNus it does not work... Poor Veemies!)

[chloe173]

At the university of Southern California, Alpha Delta Pi's brother frat is SAE. I know that has something to do with the fact that are symbols are both lions. One year they stole our bronze lions off our lawn and took them to their house and cemented them there. They bought us new ones, but its still a long standing war to steal things that have lions on them back and forth. Plus they always come over and play football in our lawn because its bigger than theirs.

[sailorpiphi]

to answer the pi phi that started the thread........
On my campus pi phis UNOFFICIAL brother frat is alpha sigma phi. We do most everythign with them...... half our bus boys are alph sigs and many girls in my house are dating them. This was also not always the case. when delta tau delta was on our campus (and not dry like it is now) we were very close to them.

[sirfidelgrl]

when i pledged we learned that KA was our brother and ADP was our sister KA because of Robert E. Lee and the whole south thing and ADP because we both were started at Wesleyan and the oldest two organizations for women..however either of these two organizations exist on my campus so phi mus here hang out with mainly the ATO's. I always thought this was nationally known but no other phi mu has said anything about this so i guess not!

[33girl]

To reiterate:

The ONLY official, constitutionally bound brother/sister orgs are Zeta Phi Beta & Phi Beta Sigma. Anything else would jeopardize single-sex status. Any other "connections", however strong, are campus based only.

There are Greeks that have had a hand in founding other orgs, but that doesn't mean that their entire fraternity is your brother fraternity.

[FAB*SpiceySpice]

Originally posted by sirfidelgrl
when i pledged we learned that KA was our brother and ADP was our sister KA because of Robert E. Lee and the whole south thing and ADP because we both were started at Wesleyan and the oldest two organizations for women..however either of these two organizations exist on my campus so phi mus here hang out with mainly the ATO's. I always thought this was nationally known but no other phi mu has said anything about this so i guess not!

Hey I am a Phi Mu too and I also heard this. For the exact same reasons too. We have both of those chapters on our campus, but we've never done anything with the KA's. We were supposed to have our semi-formal this fall with ADPi since they're our sister sorority (apparently) but stuff didn't work out with the social chair.

I dunno though whether any of this is true or not, anyone know if there is?

[Wine&SilverBlue]

at Wash U, Pi Phi is paired with Phi Delt every year for homecoming, and with Theta Xi every year for the Thurtene carnival (largest student run carnival in the US)

I couldn't say if any of these were official or not, but on my campus:

AEPhi is always paired with AEPi
DG is paired with Sig Nu
Alpha Phi is paired with Sig Ep

I heard that Chi O is nationally paired with Kappa Sig, but since Chi O is new on our campus this year, and Kappa Sig is paired with Kappa Kappa Gamma, I thikn they are goign to be paired with Beta Theta Pi. Of course everyone has mixers with all the others


Kappa Kappa Gamma and Pi Phi are sister sororities though, since they were both founded at Monmouth college... we have a Monmouth Duo date party together

[HollisterDXiChi]

How would you go about getting a bro frat? My sorority is local and the fraternity on campus thats comming on will be a national-is there an invisible line that can't be crossed? I just wanna know how we could make them our brother frat...we've already like started getting involved with their interest group and helping them out, inviting them to cookouts and all that good stuf. We want some bro's! How does it work????

[TSteven]

Originally posted by HollisterDXiChi
How would you go about getting a bro frat? My sorority is local and the fraternity on campus thats comming on will be a national-is there an invisible line that can't be crossed? I just wanna know how we could make them our brother frat...we've already like started getting involved with their interest group and helping them out, inviting them to cookouts and all that good stuf. We want some bro's! How does it work????

Q. My sorority is local and the fraternity on campus thats coming on will be a national-is there an invisible line that can't be crossed?

A. No. As 33girl pointed out, connections (brother/sister "relations") are campus based.

Q. How could we make them our brother frat? How does it work?

A. Simple. Just keep doing what you are already doing. You already have a good start.

"...we've already like started getting involved with their interest group and helping them out, inviting them to cookouts and all that good stuff".

[GamGal02]

On my campus, Pi Kappa Alpha and Alpha Gamma Delta are Brother/Sister Fraternity Sorority because our chapter founders were married.

[Loner]

ATO/AXO national
KE/XO national
PDT/DZ
ZTA/none