NPC appoints Community College Task Force

[33girl]

Originally Posted by breathesgelatin

I also think it's OK if some NPC orgs would be interested in colonizing at community colleges and others wouldn't. But some large urban community colleges are huge, offer 4 year degree, and may not resemble the image of community college that some here have...

Do you mean they get a bachelor’s degree?

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Do you mean they get a bachelor’s degree?

https://study.com/blog/do-community-...r-degrees.html

https://www.communitycollegereview.c...unity-colleges

https://transfer.santarosa.edu/ca-co...helors-degrees

[TriDeltaSallie]

Here's another twist in the CC situation. I know someone whose daughter was very accomplished at a top public school. She opted to save money and went to CC, lived at home, and worked. Her plan was to transfer to a Big Ten university after two years. Then it was to transfer to a Division II University after two years. She was enrolled, had a room assignment, etc. She realized she did not want to pay the money for the experience.

Instead what she ended up doing was taking advantage of a new program in the state. She goes to CC for three years and then transfers to a state school for one year. She graduates with a full degree from that university.

Three years of CC and living at home = cheap
One year at state university (NCAA Division II) = pay it out of pocket, no debt, four year degree from a perfectly fine university

We're kidding ourselves if we think the coronavirus isn't going to accelerate this kind of thinking. With the degree she's pursuing (education) she will have zero problem finding a job after graduating from this school. She ticks all the other boxes too in terms of personality, etc. She would actually have been a great sorority member somewhere.

And no debt.

[Titchou]

NPC could certainly qualify it to be only those CCs that offer 4 year degrees. They can craft it any way they want. But I do think it bears investigating rather than continuing to ignore the requests and changes in higher ed and the women who might want the sorority experience.

[SWTXBelle]

YES IT BEARS INVESTIGATING.

And it bears analyzing actual data, as opposed to relying on anecdotal stories of what you personally have observed, or your 'feeling'. Earlier I posted to a breakdown on demographics from Columbia University, which I don't think many have bothered to check out, or they'd know that 23% of students come from a household income of $106,000 or more, for example. 49 percent of Black students and 51 percent of Hispanic students who enrolled that year started at community colleges. Do we really want to diversify? This is a piece of that puzzle.

Ultimately, I am going to wait and see what the research committee finds out before deciding my opinion.

[Titchou]

Amen, Belle!

[*winter*]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Do you mean they get a bachelor’s degree?

CCAC had a few programs leading to a bachelors degree even almost 20 years ago, when my sister was thinking of going there to finish her education degree. I imagine it’s expanded from there, and they probably offer quite a few 4 year degrees these days.

[Sister Havana]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Do you mean they get a bachelor’s degree?

College of DuPage, my local community college, has a very popular 3 + 1 program. You take 3 years of classes at COD, then one year taught by faculty from one of the partner universities on the COD campus.

[DGTess]

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[Cookiez17]

Okay I'm speaking as someone who went to a big transfer campus and was aware of the schools people would come from: maybe this program could work if a CC looks at places where students transfer the most and then the NPCs would form CC chapters so if a campus has ABC they can associate with the ABC chapter on said campus? But that would take a lot of collaboration between the CC campus and the uni that has that sorority on it.

[carnation]

I highly doubt that the chapters at the 4-year college campuses are going to agree to affiliate the CC women automatically and that's a huge problem we've been discussing, cookiez--if they expect a seamless transition, it's unlikely to happen.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by carnation

I highly doubt that the chapters at the 4-year college campuses are going to agree to affiliate the CC women automatically and that's a huge problem we've been discussing, cookiez--if they expect a seamless transition, it's unlikely to happen.

Originally Posted by 33girl

Affiliating is already a problem between 4 year branches and main campuses. This would make it worse.

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[Cookiez17]

I see that and as people have stated we'll have to see if the NPC decides to go through with the program they certainly will have weighted out the pros and cons of it all.

[PittDZ]

Here in Texas, we have 2 programs that accept community college students. The one at Texas A&M is called Blinn Team and the one at the University of Texas is called PACE. Students attend CC + 1 class at the main university for Freshman year and are guaranteed admission if they attain a certain GPA, which I think is about a 3.2-3.5. I believe they are limited to certain majors, such as Communications, Education, Liberal Arts, and Social Work. Most of the sororities accept these transfer students although, if I am being honest, they are not usually at the top of their lists. Most of these students were of the caliber of wait list students at major universities which, in Texas, are those that were not in the top 10-15% of their graduating classes. This is clearly difficult for those that attend high-performing suburban high schools with high academic standards which, in every other state, would be sought after students by your state universities. That is why so many of our top students attend out-of-state universities, such as Oklahoma, Missouri, LSU, Ole Miss, Alabama, Auburn, and Arkansas.

[navane]

Originally Posted by Cookiez17

Okay I'm speaking as someone who went to a big transfer campus and was aware of the schools people would come from: maybe this program could work if a CC looks at places where students transfer the most and then the NPCs would form CC chapters so if a campus has ABC they can associate with the ABC chapter on said campus? But that would take a lot of collaboration between the CC campus and the uni that has that sorority on it.

I appreciate that you are trying to look at things from all angles. In San Diego County we have three public universities, one private university, and 8 community colleges. I'm just not sure how feasible it would be to work out the "combinations" in order to meet the affiliation needs of most women.