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Old 08-06-2002, 10:55 AM
sigmagrrl sigmagrrl is offline
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I felt that "punched in the stomach" feeling last night when Candace kissed the guy Amanda has the crush on. That was cruel and mean. Sorry, the alcohol is no excuse, for either of them! And that guy has a GIRLFRIEND (maybe not after last night)!!!
Gee, Jordan sure didn't seem excited about her big sis, didn't she?? Man, I wonder what sort of crap goes on in that sorority after each episode airs!!!!! LAWDIE!
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Old 08-06-2002, 11:13 AM
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**Warning off the catty Sigma topic, you might want to Skip**


KerrieMarrie,

I think I get you . . .

In this case, with posts on GC, I thought it was more on the line of: there was this one Black person in the room and I would never date a black person . . . Why is this black guy hitting on me . . . although people don't say that much anymore (out loud) they often are thinking it unconsciously. But its an acceptable personal preference. . just not PC to say out loud . . . LOL

Age is one of the last things we can be a little mean about in this PC world . . .

We sit back amazed at some old guy with some much younger hottie on his arm, and usually its some "sketchy" older guy meaning, unattatractive . . . we usually figure he has money.

Although we don't tend to blink an eye if the much younger girl is with a really good looking older man . . . Odd double standard.

But I see what you mean . . . if some girl that is kind of over the hill, say pushing 30ish . . or gulp older, is really talking to us younger guys, we kind of laugh and smile and think she just wants to get laid . . . She is just sleazy I guess. Its like, what is she thinking?

But honestly we say the same thing if she "looks old" like wrinkles and stuff . . . or is overweight . . . out of shape . . . or just plain unattractive . . . sleazy for talking to us. What is she thinking?

Here is another wierd double standard . . .

If. . . she looks younger and is hot (nice face, sweet body etc). Then she is just another girl . . . and we no longer think about the age difference . . . Good looks is a great equalizer isn't it?
LOL.

So anyway I think I understand you, in the case of girls still in college, they think that older guys talking to them is sleazy . . . regardless of hoow good looking, young looking, good talker, the guy might be . . . which is cool because that means more girls for us! LOL

But damn, why are so many college girls I know going out with older guys? Its the money right? Or at least that is what we assume . . . why else would a girl want to deal with sleeze?


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I don't think that's what anyone was saying - but as any college woman knows, there are always sleazy older guys hanging around clubs and bars trying to pick up chicks that are 10 years younger than them. I see it all the time, at every club I've ever gone to.

At the first fraternity party that I ever went to, I was talking to this guy who wanted to know when I graduated. I assumed he meant high school graduation, so I told him that I graduated in 1999. He told me he had graduated in 1994. Later in the conversation, I realized that he meant he had graduated from COLLEGE in 1994. He wasn't at the party to reunite with his old brothers, or to help out his fraternity, or anything of the like. He was there to find a chick.

I think situations like that cause statements like "He's sketch, he's twenty eight", not age discrimination.
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Old 08-06-2002, 11:22 AM
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James,
the reason why i ended up with someone who was graduating college when i had just entered college (granted, we got together AFTER i had graduated, but he is still 4 1/2 years older than i) is this huge maturity/goal oriented behavior. As I have seen, after college, it sometimes takes guys a little longer to settle down, get a job, and start looking for a serious relationship--things most girls want most of the time. Granted, my fiance can still be totally disgusting and immature with his friends but I never had to deal with all the dating bullshit lots of girls have to put up with their college boyfriends.

but thats just my opinion...however here's a little fact: (think age group of 24-26) of my 10 closest girl friends 8 out of 10 are with older guys, either settling down, engaged or married. out of my 10 closest guy friends, 2 of them have serious girlfriends, 5 of them are still unemployed, none of them are engaged or married, 3 of them still live at home.

older guys just have a little more stability then younger ones when you get into the mid-20's age bracket, i think.
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Old 08-06-2002, 12:18 PM
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Maggieaxid, I agree. I ususally am attracted to men ages 26 and up (I am 21). GENERALLY college guys are trying to experience their youth and have fun....not trying to be tied down. That's fine for them, I love to hang too. But when it comes time to put my emotions and feelings in something, I prefer stability. Not saying I date to put a ring on my finger, but why waste time - theirs or mine?

***Sidebar*** James, stop trying to make things so deep! ***End of Sidebar***

As for SL....okay, sorry to say it, but I love this show! You know, if it had nothing to do with a sorority and just followed around a few girls to see what would happen it would be the best, lol! Drama central!

Candace would NOT have gotten in the same car with me that night. That was just WRONG. And did y'all notice how Amanda had her hand all on the guy's neck and was about to kis him herself when he TURN HIS HEAD TO CANDACE and kissed her instead! Oh NAW! Could NOT have been me!!

Everybody in my house was YELLING for Amanda to go tell Jordan so she could give Candace the curse out she deserved. Next show I hope that Jordan includes this scenario in her tirade on Candace. Jordan is my girl! Dramatic some, yeah, self-centered, ALOT, but probably one of the realest in the house.
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Old 08-06-2002, 03:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by maggieaxid
on a catty obnoxious note:
Jordan needs to SEPARATE her eyelashes when wearing mascara
LOL, I know! They did that big close up of her when she was talking to Mara at the house, and I was like, "*gasp!* Tarantula Eyes!" I could go on criticizing her, but I'm choosing not to (I don't wanna be "un-sigmalike").

Another nit-picky note:
All the girls seemed SO happy with their Bigs, but Jordan just HAD to go and whine about her Big being younger... Get over it! I have many friends who have Bigs that are younger than them (one of them just got married, he was 26 and his big was 21!) And she needs to stop rolling her eyes like that... it's so annoying!

Gotta say something nice:
I liked how they went about the whole Big/Little thing. It seemed very sweet. The episode on a whole was actually quite good. Finally starting to get rid of some of the drama and start getting into some real "sorority life" things!
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Old 08-06-2002, 03:06 PM
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Yes, almost all girls I know are attracted to someone older. No offense to guys but girls mature at least emtionally faster. Therefore while guys your age or younger are still out partying and having a good time (which is all well and good) you are ready to settle down and the only guys you can find who want to too are the 23 24 25 year olds. I am 20 and my bf is 23. I have never ever dated anyone younger than 2 or 3 years older than me. Now, don't get me wrong me being 20 dating some 30 year old or worse is not that cool either because usually one of us wants something from the other. (and I do mean usually, it does work for some people). Now, freshman year in college after all my partying with the freshman, sophomore and junior guys, I was ready to settle down. And it happen to be with my bf who was a senior. now he has a full time job, security, a really nice car and soon is planning on moving out of his parent's home. And he is serious about us and not out to play mind games with me or my feelings. This is exactly what we girls want. Or at least what I want
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Old 08-06-2002, 05:31 PM
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I have to agree that this episode was one of the better ones -- if not better, then at least more interesting.

The only thing I really want to complain about is the fact that MTV's editing makes all the girls look absolutely schizophrenic. One minute they're portrayed as cuddly little girls, the next as heinous bitches. I mean, if they're going to edit the thing so much that every girl has her own little label, why not at least be consistent with the labelling?

I like continuity.

Also, I want to agree with the sentiment that if I was Amanda, Candace would not be getting a ride home from me, let alone be allowed in my BED later. Although I don't think that that guy was behaving much better than Candace was . . . The only thing that makes it even semi-excusable was the alcohol, and even then it's a pretty mean thing to do . . .
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Old 08-06-2002, 09:18 PM
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I was impressed with last night's episode. The group dynamic between
Candace, Amanda, Mara, and Jordan is finally settling into it's own
rythym. There was a balance in depicting the pledges vs. actives.
Also it was cool to see Pauli being so up on the pledges. The way
they handled the Big Sis/Little Sis revealing was perfect (i.e. they
showed some respect for ritual).

I especially liked the way Mara hangs back and observes, then lays out
her observations about the Candace/Amanda dynamic to Jordan and
everything she said was dead-on (and in agreement with the
observations on this forum). You can see why she's a sociololgy
major.

The way Jordan and Amanda were friends who went through rush together,
then the friendship takes a turn as they both go through the process
of integrating into the pledge class and the sorority as a whole, is
exactly what happens in real life. Well done.

It took them five episodes but the show is starting to yield some good
observations about the group dynamics that take place in sororities.
I'll leave the Candace/Amanda thing at the bar for someone else to
comment on. But if MTV planted a microphone in the girls bathroom,
shame on them! (However it was obviously a smart move.)
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Old 08-06-2002, 11:53 PM
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They didn't plant a mic. The girls are wearing mics! The airheads just forgot.
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Old 08-07-2002, 01:25 AM
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Well, they do have to wear the mikes for all their waking hours, so I think most of us would probably forget that we were wearing them too. I did think it was funny that Amanda came out of the bathroom and saw the camera there and got all annoyed, like it was the camera and not the mikes strapped to them that was going to pick up their conversation -- heh.
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Old 08-07-2002, 05:51 AM
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Jordan

Why do I get the feeling that "un-Sigma-like" is going to be the new saying among greeks?

I have to say, I love Jordan, I think she is beautiful, I know the makeup thing is over the top(think Nicole from Real World New York) but I can imaging her without makeup and I think she would look nice. Does anyone know her? I bet if she didn't get attention before, she has to fight them off at Davis now.

Her boyfriend was a jerk, I would have dumped him that night when he got that call.

I agree with you guys on how Candice and I would NOT have been in the same car, she would of had less hair when her and got out of it

And yes Dede is finally in the mix! I was beginning to think she was made up!



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Old 08-12-2002, 10:45 PM
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Just wondering if anyone else who is watching tonight is wondering about Jordan's new leaf that she has seemed to turn over.....
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Old 08-12-2002, 11:03 PM
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Drama Central

I don't even know what to say... It seems like everyone's turning on people and the people that were so bitchy at the begining of the show are getting nice? I dunno... I'm all confused!
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Old 08-12-2002, 11:37 PM
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Yeah, Jordan seems to have turned over a new leaf so to speak. I like her. She has an attitude...kinda like me. LOL!! I felt bad for her when she was crying and said she lost her friend, Amanda. Even if I did think that they had a messed up relationship, they still thought of eachother as friends and it's going to be hard to live in the same house with someone you're not really talking to anymore. She's been watching the Candace/Amanda relationship grow and I'm glad she finally admitted that she misses having Amanda around.

I thought tonight's show was good ~ despite some of the drama. Hopefully Candace will realize she doesn't have to get shit-faced drunk everytime she goes out. And, that going home with a random guy you meet at the bar is not a safe or smart decision. That was kinda scary. What was she thinking!?!

The whole Amanda vs Jessica situation was just silly. Amanda was just being a bully. She changed her whole tone when she was speaking to Mara. She had a lot less attitude. I think she is/was easily intimidated by Jordan, so know she tries to emulate that with Jessica - the easy target. She didn't want to confront Mara, but she was perfectly content to snipe at Jessica. That wasn't even right.

Next week's episode seems interesting ~ the Spring Formal.
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Old 08-13-2002, 09:07 AM
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by far my least favorite charecter is amanda. what the heck is her deal? she snippy to people that she feels superior to and cowers to people she is intimidated by. she seems not to have a place.
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