University of Southern California Recruitment

[Tulip86]

Originally Posted by Titchou

No, ma'am, it has NOTHING to do with being under campus total before recruitment! You obvioulsy are not Greek - which is fine. But don't talk about things as if oyu know how it works. A chapter can pledged quota even if it is already at or above total. That has NOTHING to do with quota.Read the rules. Listen to those of us here who have been advisers, national officers, etc and know the rules or read them yourself. If you would like a copy of the MOI, I would be more than happy to send you a copy.

Are you HartofSec's sock puppet??????

Seriously? She is Greek, and not a sockpuppet, just because someone dares to contradict you or doesn't wholeheartedly agree with you doesn't mean they are trolls. JMHO

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by Titchou

Are you HartofSec's sock puppet??????

Whoa, kaeb has been a poster here for a long time, and has contributed much to our discussions of USC in the last two years. She is a member of an NPC group that limits its participation in FR.

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by Titchou

Are you HartofSec's sock puppet??????

^That was truly unnecessary. I'm not even involved in this thread.

I have one, and only one, username on this message board. Surely you can report any sock puppet concerns to the moderator or admin for clarification prior to launching baseless accusations.

ETA: And there is no need to send any further nastygrams to my PM box, as I will not respond (as you already know).

[28StGreek]

Originally Posted by Titchou

You obvioulsy are not Greek

Oh darling, bless your heart.

[kaeb]

Originally Posted by Titchou

No, ma'am, it has NOTHING to do with being under campus total before recruitment!

I thought that's what quota additions were? To get houses who weren't at total to quota? My apologies.

Originally Posted by Titchou

You obvioulsy are not Greek

Darn my Angle-Saxon/Germanic heritage. Good thing my sisters love me for who I am, even if I am not, in fact, ethnically Greek... (not that I've ever pretended to be) That is what you mean, right? Because I'm pretty sure I am a part of the Greek system here at USC—unless I've hallucinated my new member period, my initiation, the important positions I hold and have held in my house, and the amazing moments of sisterhood I've experienced—in which case I would hopefully be getting help, and not be on Greekchat.

Originally Posted by Titchou

Are you HartofSec's sock puppet??????

No. I don't think I've ever read one of HartofSec's posts (I'm guessing he/she posts mostly about the SEC? I'm all about the PAC-12, myself!). I do love that this is the second time I've been accused of being a sock puppet account for posting anything about USC, though. Clearly I forged my join date of two years ago, and my 170 posts (which admittedly aren't that many, but enough to be a nuisance to create out of thin air) were all added after the fact...

Now for an en masse apology.

I'm sorry. As you can see, I've retracted my statements about quota etc at USC. It was not my place to share them, but I came from a well-intentioned place. I do not want my friends to get in trouble for this, whatever I should not have shared but did is my fault. To defend them, I don't think anything they told me was confidential—it was just things that are not common knowledge, for whatever reason. (And I delineate between confidential and not common knowledge as such: confidential things are things people shouldn't know, for a legitimate reason, and things that are not common knowledge are things people just don't know because they haven't been told, e.g. that 10 members of a house's exec board are allowed to move into their sorority's house a day before the rest of the sorority can, or that chapter are allowed to correct one computer mistake, etc). The fact that houses get caught dirty rushing is not a secret, as the consequences of it are visible every year in one way or another.

[ginger85]

An additional observation on recruitment at SC...it appears that each sorority has the largest pledge class in its history. This would seem to indicate that the pmn's are looking beyond the ones that have traditionally been very strong, and thus making the success of other sororities colonizing there more likely. In my opinion, this is probably happening because the student body has become more diverse as the university has made a concerted effort to draw from across the country. This had to have been a tough year with the record amount of pmn's but it appears to have been quite successful in placing a high number of women!

[gatordeltapgh]

The Panhellenic Advisor at USC is a former NPC Chairman so I don't think there would be any scenario where she would go against the MOI.

[Pearly]

No one has even suggested that they didn't make quota because the girls they asked to preference ranked the other house first...and I have heard that groups at USC have not played by the rules in the past and were asked to publicly say they were sorry or bring in a speaker or pay some fines and there were no restrictions placed on them regarding recruitment or numbers, etc.

[Football Fan]

A friend sent me a note as she has a DG relative in the SC chapter. According to my friend Delta Gamma took 20 legacies and have 78 new members.

These numbers have not been confirmed by any DG official. Other chapters still have not reported, so that number may be in line with the rest of the chapters and quota may well be 78.

[SoCalGirl]

Question for the quota debate. Can a CPC prevent a chapter from taking QAs as part of a punishment due to some infraction? They'd still be allowed to bid to quota, just not any bonus members.

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by SoCalGirl

Question for the quota debate. Can a CPC prevent a chapter from taking QAs as part of a punishment due to some infraction? They'd still be allowed to bid to quota, just not any bonus members.

NO, ma'am. Read the UA I quoted in a previous post. the CPC can not limit membership in any way other than setting quota and total. And they apply to all groups no matter what.

[LAblondeGPhi]

Wow, so much drams since I last visited this thread! I'm not going to even try to make sense of what KitKat is saying. I kind of hope that she's using an iPhone to type her posts, and auto-correct is getting the best of her.

To circle back for a moment:

Originally Posted by aab225

Just out of curiosity, what do you mean by this? I know many girls in Alpha Nu and they are one of the largest DG chapters in the country. They do very well in recruitment usually. It's a shame to hear this year they were behind.

Just what DubaiSis and APhi4Ever said (thanks for helping clarify on my behalf, ladies!) - I meant to stick up for DG regarding the comment that they "didn't do as well" by getting fewer women than the other chapters. Often the quantity of new members doesn't correspond to how well a chapter recruited. I was trying to avoid a rankings conversation, but perhaps I was a little too oblique.


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Originally Posted by SoCalGirl

Question for the quota debate. Can a CPC prevent a chapter from taking QAs as part of a punishment due to some infraction? They'd still be allowed to bid to quota, just not any bonus members.

I thought the GA and/or RFM specialist could withhold QAs if a chapter doesn't follow RFM return and release numbers during recruitment (i.e. they under-invited)? It seems like Greek advisors have a lot of latitude in terms of how they handle QAs.

[mamagreek]

It looks like we're getting some more numbers:
Alpha Chi Omega:
Alpha Delta Pi:
Alpha Phi:86
Delta Delta Delta: 90
Delta Gamma: 78
Gamma Phi Beta: 88
Kappa Alpha Theta: 82
Kappa Kappa Gamma:
Pi Beta Phi: 87
Sigma Delta Tau: (participating in informal)

Do we know what quota was? So far it looks like all houses did quite well and so many girls found a place to call home!

[ellebud]

There times in my life I've let things go...and other incidents that I dive into the mix. Titchou: Kaeb is a longtime poster. She goes to USC. You do not. Every school has a different Greek culture and yes...there are times that what is done on one campus isn't done in the NPC area or school where you live.

So...with far more tact and elegance than what you wrote: People make mistakes (or not) and you don't know us. If you can't say something constructive and/or civil because you don't like that it interferes with your concept of Panhellenic, or your little corner of the earth...stop. Think. And don't be a b*****

....now I will have my morning coffee.

[APhi4Ever]

Originally Posted by ellebud

If you can't say something constructive and/or civil because you don't like that it interferes with your concept of Panhellenic, or your little corner of the earth...stop. Think. And don't be a b*****

....now I will have my morning coffee.

This just makes me laugh, can I use it as a quote?