Lack of Ethnic Diversity in Bama's sororities worry future rushee

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by lovely10

Ok AKA here is what you are not understanding...stop commenting because you are not making sense...GA is asking for NPC sorority recruitment not NPHC...their process is different from ours so leave it alone

Originally Posted by lovely10

Munch...do not get it twisted...NPHC IS NOT EASY TO GET INTO...

Holy bump fpr pointless comments batman!

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

...the hell are you? And why are you digging up this old thread to contribute NOTHING?

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

Holy bump fpr pointless comments batman!

At least she's found the AKA and DST newbie stickied posts now.

[lovely10]

Munch...do not get it twisted...NPHC IS NOT EASY TO GET INTO...

[StargazerLily]

Originally Posted by GAgalBamabound

Hey yall,

I'm looking at attending bama , and I would be interested in rushing. I am a legacy of a certain sorority there and when I visited I was very surprised that there is little to no ethnic diversity in their sororities Im not sure if it is because the minorities do not rush or because they are denied membership??

The whole thing worries me and I could use some guidance.
Thank yall

ps. im sure this is a touchy topic but.....the truth is always nice...ill take PMs too!

Sorry for the old bump, but this is the closest thread I could find which pertained to this. I'm surprised no one else has posted this story yet.... either that or it was posted and got heated and deleted and I missed it. So.... I'm sorry if I'm opening a can of worms with this, but....really, Bama?

http://cw.ua.edu/2011/09/14/rush/

And yes, I KNOW that membership selection processes are private, but don't be stupid. I have a hard time believing that a white girl with the same personality and same credentials would have been dropped from ALL sororities on the campus.

[KSUViolet06]

The whole Melody Twilley thing has been discussed a few times on GC and I'm pretty sure there were some members of the org she ended up founding posting here at some point. There was also quite a bit of discussion re: Bama going on when one of the chapters pledged a Black woman about 6ish years ago. I don't remember which chapter it was though (Gamma Phi maybe?)

[thetalady]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

The whole Melody Twilley thing has been discussed a few times on GC and I'm pretty sure there were some members of the org she ended up founding posting here at some point. There was also quite a bit of discussion re: Bama going on when one of the chapters pledged a Black woman about 6ish years ago. I don't remember which chapter it was though (Gamma Phi maybe?)

Good memory!!

http://cw.ua.edu/2011/09/15/witt-def...-greek-system/

"In 2003, Carla Ferguson, a black student, was offered membership in the Gamma Phi Beta sorority.

With Ferguson’s admittance, attention on the matter flared and then died down. It seemed as if Gamma Phi Beta had made the first step toward integration."

[KSUViolet06]

Double posting, but other Melody/Alpha Delta Sigma related threads from forever ago.

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=16594

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=29029

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=22309

[exlurker]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

Double posting, but other Melody/Alpha Delta Sigma related threads from forever ago.

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=16594

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=29029

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=22309

Assorted editorials and blogs on this subject in the last few days, -- not focused on Melody, but rather on the (perceived or claimed) issues with the situation with NPC recruitment and chapter makeup,
most or all from papers/sites in Alabama (the state) or the U of Alabama:

http://blog.al.com/tuscaloosa/2011/0...akes_scho.html

http://blog.al.com/tuscaloosa/2011/0...hould_mak.html

http://cw.ua.edu/2011/09/20/race-rem...rsity-culture/

http://cw.ua.edu/2011/09/19/our-view...c-segregation/

[KSUViolet06]

I never really gave the whole thing too much thought, and I really don't feel like beating a super dead horse but I will say that if she's still upset about sorority recruitment from 10 years ago, I think she may have some bigger issues that need to be addressed.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

I never really gave the whole thing too much thought, and I really don't feel like beating a super dead horse but I will say that if she's still upset about sorority recruitment from 10 years ago, I think she may have some bigger issues that need to be addressed.

I don't know - maybe she's not upset about sorority recruitment itself but the act of discrimination, especially if she had not experienced it to that degree prior to recruitment? I could see that sticking around for a while.

[StargazerLily]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

I never really gave the whole thing too much thought, and I really don't feel like beating a super dead horse but I will say that if she's still upset about sorority recruitment from 10 years ago, I think she may have some bigger issues that need to be addressed.

The article i posted started off talking about Melody, but further down it mentions that another African American female went through recruitment THIS YEAR and did not get a bid. I think the Melody part of it was just showing the history and pointing out that it's still an issue.

[KSUViolet06]

^^agzg: No that's kind of what I was getting at. It's probably more than just recruitment.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

^^agzg: No that's kind of what I was getting at. It's probably more than just recruitment.

Right, but I don't know that it's HER issue to address, was my point. She can't be expected to just get over perceived systemic discrimination, particularly if there's still reason to believe that it actually was systemic discrimination.

[sigmadiva]

Quote from the article:

Durham rushed to make friends but said she didn’t expect to pledge.

“I just wanted to make friends out of the experience,” Durham said, “which I did.”

Based on her own expectations she got what she wanted.



And I agree that Melody needs to let it go. If she found her own sorority and is running that, then she should have no problem getting over what happened to her over 10 years ago with NPC recruitment.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by agzg

Right, but I don't know that it's HER issue to address, was my point. She can't be expected to just get over perceived systemic discrimination, particularly if there's still reason to believe that it actually was systemic discrimination.

I think statistically speaking we don't know this.

I don't know the numbers for PNM going through NPC recruitment at Bama, and of that number how many are AfAm, but my guess is that over the past 10 - 11 years, not more than 5 per year, if that many.

I think that if 25 - 30 AfAm women went through NPC recruitment every year over the past 10 - 11 years, and they were just as qualified as any other PNM and did not get a bid then I would say yes, there is active discrimination based on the numbers. As it stands, we really can't tell if it is just the few AfAm women who go through and just don't get picked for whatever reason, or if it is truly discrimination.