Hobby Lobby

[ree-Xi]

Originally Posted by AGDee

Perhaps only vasectomies and Viagra for married men. Let's see how far that would get!

Ding, ding, ding!!

[maconmagnolia]

The one thing I worry about if the Supreme Court rules in Hobby Lobby's favor is that who else will step up and try to not cover certain things because of "religious reasons"? Will companies refuse to cover cancer treatments, etc. because of "religious reasons"? That worries me. If you give someone an inch, they'll take a mile.

[LAblondeGPhi]

Originally Posted by maconmagnolia

The one thing I worry about if the Supreme Court rules in Hobby Lobby's favor is that who else will step up and try to not cover certain things because of "religious reasons"? Will companies refuse to cover cancer treatments, etc. because of "religious reasons"? That worries me. If you give someone an inch, they'll take a mile.

[Kevin]

Yeah. I think the most interesting hypo is that suddenly the entire Fortune 500 converts to the Church of Christian Science which believes that medical treatment goes against the word of God. I'll bet their health plans would be super cheap.

[maconmagnolia]

Originally Posted by LAblondeGPhi

Lol! I loved that book when I was younger.

[LAblondeGPhi]

Originally Posted by maconmagnolia

Lol! I loved that book when I was younger.

Ditto! It was my mantra at a former job that required lots of managing expectations!

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Yeah. I think the most interesting hypo is that suddenly the entire Fortune 500 converts to the Church of Christian Science which believes that medical treatment goes against the word of God. I'll bet their health plans would be super cheap.

I hadn't thought of that. However, I had relatives who were Christian Scientists. They do have SC Practitioners, and therapy homes that can run into high figures. I have no idea what their beliefs about birth control or abortion are, though. My grandmother was so whacked out on CS, she denied ever having sex!

[Tulip86]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Do the Dutch and the Brits have the same underlying factors as the US? The answer is "no" for most factors and "yes" for some factors.

Attempting to mirror other countries' practices only works when controlling for other factors and addressing a number of problems. However, the US struggles with gun control, reproductive rights, health insurance, public education, a living wage, and tons of other issues. When the US struggles for common ground in those regards it is impossible to mirror the Dutch and Brits.

I agree on most points. Having lived in both countries , and experiencing both insurance through employers and personal choice, I'm just glad to be rid of the employer provided insurance for now. I just hope I don't ever have to work for a religious employer who enforces their beliefs on their employees when I return to the US.

[DubaiSis]

Returning to the US is very hard for SO many reasons. And the fact that this is at issue at all is part of that.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by honeychile

My grandmother was so whacked out on CS, she denied ever having sex!

Well then, you're the offspring of an immaculate conception. How's bout that?

[southbymidwest]

Well, well, well...

According to Mother Jones/ Huffington Post, "Hobby Lobby's 401(k) employee retirement plan holds $73 million in mutual funds that invest in multiple pharmaceutical companies that produce emergency contraceptive pills, intrauterine devices, and abortion-inducing medications.

The companies Hobby Lobby invests in include Teva Pharmaceutical Industries, which makes the Plan B morning-after pill and ParaGard, a copper IUD, as well as Pfizer, the maker of the abortion-inducing drugs Cytotec and Prostin E2. Hobby Lobby's mutual funds also invest in two health insurance companies that cover surgical abortions, abortion drugs, and emergency contraception in their health care policies."

So let me see if i get this- Hobby Lobby invests in companies that manufacture emergency contraceptive pills, IUDs and abortion inducing medications, and it buys millions of dollars worth of goods from China, where the government sponsors abortions, birth control, and has issues with child labor practices, but hey, no IUD for you, Hobby Lobby Worker! Humphhh.

And yes, Hobby Lobby can make sure that their investments do not contain shares of stock from certain companies. It is not terribly unusual. That is not a valid excuse if they say, "oh gees, we didn't know that..."

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Well then, you're the offspring of an immaculate conception. How's bout that?

Not only that, but for some weird reason, my parents felt it necessary to tell me that I was conceived on the Feast of the Immaculate Conception. Thank heavens, I wasn't raised Catholic, as I think I would have had serious problems with that!

[badgeguy]

Saw a funny picture today, but couldn't copy it here....it read:

"Hobby Lobby: you are not a doctor, you are not a church, you sell stencils!"

[ASTalumna06]

Hobby Lobby Ruling: Employers Don't Have to Cover Birth Control

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...ontrol-n144321

[SydneyK]

Edited because I cross-posted with ASTalumna06 and her link is much better.