Less popular sororities

[DSTCHAOS]

Okay--let's pretend EW just said the girl was a poor dresser and the fraternity men did not want to associate with a sorority that pledged a poor dresser. Maybe she wore a tacky Obama tie or something.

I hope to read more about how fraternity men's opinions matter so much for sororities' popularities.


<--trying to keep this thing from getting closed or something.

[oldu]

I just realized that EW is from ARKANSAS...a state at or near the bottom of the food chain in nearly every statistic. I guess a guy who wears a pig face and goes around yelling "soo-pig" would end up with an inferiority complex and need any bias he can find to feel superior to someone. whether it race or otherwise. Pathetic.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by oldu

I just realized that EW is from ARKANSAS...a state at or near the bottom of the food chain in nearly every statistic. I guess a guy who wears a pig face and goes around yelling "soo-pig" would end up with an inferiority complex and need any bias he can find to feel superior to someone. whether it race or otherwise. Pathetic.

Careful there. Some of us SEC (Southern) folk don't cotton to such talk.

[Benzgirl]

Does EW attend class or don't the Kappa Sigs and U of A care about going to class?

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

Does EW attend class or don't the Kappa Sigs and U of A care about going to class?

I'm not at the University of Arkansas, I'm still enrolled but have opportunities elsewhere at the moment.

I have not been offensive whatsoever in this thread yet people continue to act angrily. I'm not sure if it's some sort of inferiority complex or whatnot, but act civily, thanks.

Soooo...the fraternity shunned the sorority because...they pledged a black woman who is from a wealthy background. Okay...so that's a race effect that can't be disguised. You said it is tradition. Now what?

They shunned the sorority before and she wasn't wealthy to begin with. Remember what I said earlier? She had a sketchy background before hand. Please read instead making ridiculous attacks, thanks.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

I have not been offensive whatsoever in this thread yet people continue to act angrily. I'm not sure if it's some sort of inferiority complex or whatnot, but act civily, thanks.

You know good and well that you were offensive when you typed that post that began with "stupid."

Despite what you may think, your attempts at acting "high society" are lost on GCers. Don't get snippy with people and then act like you're too good to get your ass handed to you.

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

They shunned the sorority before and she wasn't wealthy to begin with. Remember what I said earlier? She had a sketchy background before hand. Please read instead making ridiculous attacks, thanks.

I'm not making ridiculous attacks. You gave a ridiculous account. She wasn't wealthy to begin with? Where does it begin?

They shunned the sorority before but you told us about the black woman because........

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I'm not making ridiculous attacks. You gave a ridiculous account. She wasn't wealthy to begin with? Where does it begin?

They shunned the sorority before but you told us about the black woman because........

Is your reading comprehension low?

Instead of actually replying to blather...I will just quote what I have said previously so you will perhaps read it this time...this thread has long bored me after it delved into racial politics that were not to be mentioned until a certain person decided to attempt to attack the seriousness of Arkansas rush.

As I replied to YOU (I mean my god, is it really that hard):

I'm not in a sorority, obviously. I wasn't at the University at the time. She was not of a good background, which was part of the reason the sorority argued over her for so long.

Not of a good background means she was not well-off, obviously. It has nothing to do with her race.

Then I said:

It made poor rush decisions previous as they were always known for being not as good...but they had the numbers to maintain. After this decision, which obviously affected the fraternities...and the fraternities responded, it went down hill from there.

So, as I said, and as you have failed to read, they were okay and lasted during the shunning of the fraternities because they took whoever, because recruitment numbers were so high at the University. However, the lack of tradition resulted in this recruit sending them over the top. And it went down hill from there.

Please read instead of instantly responding.

If you have more questions, PM me but it's sort of difficult to take ad hominem attacks when I have said nothing racist or otherwise angry. I have been nothing but respectful of the situation which the sorority is in.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Is your reading comprehension low?

You're an idiot with horrible communication skills.

I asked you if the sorority that pledged the minority woman from the wealthy background got shunned. You said "yes." The end.

[skylark]

Am I the only one considering whether EW might be a super-advanced-persistent troll. I know he's been around since 2006, but even his first post seems to bait trouble:

Well, I don't think it's necessary to shut oneself in your room, but we certainly spend no time with them. Our only brothers that we can stand are at Ole Miss, LSU, Auburn and Georgia and other southern schools. The majority of the brothers I have met outside of the SEC and Texas-Big 12 have been worthless. Honestly, I've never seen so many irreverent people then when I go to convention. Other fraternities on campus have lamented the same feelings when they go to convention.

I just keep having the hardest time believing someone could be so ignorant, out-of-touch and just stupid. And who hasn't heard of beyonce? It just is starting to gnaw at me.

[Just interested]

Thanks, ShadoKat for redirecting this thread in a very classy manner.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Just interested

Thanks, ShadoKat for redirecting this thread in a very classy manner.

It didn't redirect the thread yet.

ETA: Maybe it did. *fingers crossed*

[DSTCHAOS]

For the record: Not choosing someone based on social class is bad for a number of reasons but typical because people look at background. I assume that people who target the "top tier" organizations will know that some of them have the "wealth" standard and will therefore choose not to rush those groups. I guess the sorority that got shunned for the nonwealthy member was also struggling before whereas a sorority that wasn't struggling would've been able to pull off attempting to diversify their chapter.

[gee_ess]

Holy cow, I don't know where to begin...

EW - I am a U of A grad and alum of a top tier sorority. And, although I am sure you thought you were speaking honestly and with firsthand knowledge, you are speaking without enough experience and knowledge of this campus' greek system to make any type of point regarding a weaker sorority without being offensive.

I believe I posted earlier with the point that stronger sororities can afford to make mistakes in rush and it rarely effects them negatively -not true for a weaker group. Yes, a few bad pledge classes can hurt them. But fraternities are not responsible for that.

Fraternity opinions hold very little sway with pledges signing bid cards. Yes, there is tent talk, but that becomes very secondary during the emotion of formal (southern style!) rush. At the end of the week, the pnm's just want a BID! Also, regarding frat's shunning sororities, rarely are functions single group. Most,if not all, are two sororities and two frats - which helps balance the equation somewhat. No frat opinion can take a house down. The system isn't set up that way.

Regarding the minority pledge - I assure you this had no bearing on their success or lack thereof of their house. Yes, in this traditional south,it may have been news...(few African American or Asian women go through rush at Arkansas) but not anything that would take a house down. Of the 7 groups on campus, this past fall, all but one made quota and this one was not a newer group. So, to make it perfectly clear, the newer groups are doing GREAT on campus. I am not sure what group you are referring to.

And last but not least, let's not let EW's posts turn anyone into saying something ugly about Arkansas just because he is offending you. That's just not nice...
Arkansas is a great campus and has a strong Greek system.

[Just interested]

Yea!!! We are back on a very important topic for all of us!!

[Just interested]

I also believe alumnae are the key. The important thing is that the local alumnae have the heartbeat of the campus they are serving. Also important, is a HQ that doesn't give up on a chapter. Quality instead of quantity. This may take several years to develop the leadership needed for success. Quota is not always the answer nor is total.