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10-23-2007, 01:03 AM
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One Person - Two Sororities
Has anyone ever heard of someone being initiated into a particular sorority at one school and then transferring to another school where her sorority doesn't exist and going through rush again to pledge a different sorority? If this is forbidden, can someone get away with doing this if no one at the new school knows that she was in another sorority at her previous school? Just curious.
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10-23-2007, 01:09 AM
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If she is an initiated member of a GLO (and still in good standing, I'm assuming), she will always be an XYZ. (and if her chapter knows she's transferring I'm assuming they'll grant her alumna status)
Can she perpetrate and live a lie at her new school? If she really, really wants to, I suppose.
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10-23-2007, 01:19 AM
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I personally have never heard of anyone ever doing this and don't currently know of anyone that would. I know that the National Panhellenic Conference states that one is ineligible to do this if they have already been initiated into another sorority at another school. But are there any checkpoints in place that once her name is submitted that her name would appear somewhere and therefore be redflagged? I agree with the comment about who would want to live their life in such a lie--but was just curious as to whether it could be done or if there are measures in place to prevent that from happening.
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10-23-2007, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by AOII BAMA MOM
I personally have never heard of anyone ever doing this and don't currently know of anyone that would. I know that the National Panhellenic Conference states that one is ineligible to do this if they have already been initiated into another sorority at another school. But are there any checkpoints in place that once her name is submitted that her name would appear somewhere and therefore be redflagged? I agree with the comment about who would want to live their life in such a lie--but was just curious as to whether it could be done or if there are measures in place to prevent that from happening.
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Whenever there is a post like this, I wonder why someone is asking the question. Mere curiosity I can see, but a follow up with a disclaimer usually raises red flags in my book.
Not accusing anyone here, but may I (politely) ask why you are interested? (if it's none of my business, you can say so!)
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10-23-2007, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by REE1993
Whenever there is a post like this, I wonder why someone is asking the question. Mere curiosity I can see, but a follow up with a disclaimer usually raises red flags in my book.
Not accusing anyone here, but may I (politely) ask why you are interested? (if it's none of my business, you can say so!)
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SURE ENOUGH!! As soon as I decided to ask this question out of curiosity ---I knew it, I knew it that someone was going to question my sincerity which is why i threw in the disclaimer. If you must know--this is why I asked the question--I was out to lunch with a group of my friends whose daughters all went to different schools this fall as freshman and pledged different sororities. All of us are so pleased with the choices that our daughters made especially me. My daughter is thrilled with her sorority and her school and will be there for all four years. As we shared our daughter's rush stories with each other--someone brought up the question about dual memberships. Ergo--my curiosity. Nothing more Nothing more. I appreciate you asking me politely.
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10-23-2007, 11:40 AM
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Someone suggested *100% jokingly* that I go through rush @ JWU and see where I ended up *if I even ended up with a bid*. My answer was that it would be to easy to tell that I am a Greek already, because I know way to much about Greek life and NPC rules that I couldn't hide it if I tried.
Plus the fact that I wore (and still do *looks down @ my shirt*) letters all the time
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10-24-2007, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by AOII BAMA MOM
SURE ENOUGH!! As soon as I decided to ask this question out of curiosity ---I knew it, I knew it that someone was going to question my sincerity which is why i threw in the disclaimer. If you must know--this is why I asked the question--I was out to lunch with a group of my friends whose daughters all went to different schools this fall as freshman and pledged different sororities. All of us are so pleased with the choices that our daughters made especially me. My daughter is thrilled with her sorority and her school and will be there for all four years. As we shared our daughter's rush stories with each other--someone brought up the question about dual memberships. Ergo--my curiosity. Nothing more Nothing more. I appreciate you asking me politely.
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Thanks for the explanation!
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10-24-2007, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by AOII BAMA MOM
SURE ENOUGH!! As soon as I decided to ask this question out of curiosity ---I knew it, I knew it that someone was going to question my sincerity which is why i threw in the disclaimer. If you must know--this is why I asked the question--I was out to lunch with a group of my friends whose daughters all went to different schools this fall as freshman and pledged different sororities. All of us are so pleased with the choices that our daughters made especially me. My daughter is thrilled with her sorority and her school and will be there for all four years. As we shared our daughter's rush stories with each other--someone brought up the question about dual memberships. Ergo--my curiosity. Nothing more Nothing more. I appreciate you asking me politely.
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It's an interesting conversation topic. I had wondered if NPC had a database of all members that could be cross-checked with PNMs at every campus, but apparently not. I think irishpipes would be good for the job.
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10-23-2007, 01:35 AM
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The nationals don't cross-check membership lists or anything, but as we find here on GC every day, it's a pretty small world and you never know who might end up talking to whom and what might happen to come to light some day. And NPC rules are usually reviewed before recruitment so that PNMs know about what accepting a bid means, how long it's binding for, etc. So it's assumed (and no, probably not in any way actually followed up on, so it's an honor-code kind of thing) that anyone going through recruitment is on the up-and-up and knows whether they're eligible or not. Clearly someone who is already an XYZ is not.
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10-23-2007, 04:35 AM
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This does happen, but it is against NPC rules. If found out, the girl could have her membership terminated by both groups (depending on their policies).
This actually happened at my school awhile back (not going to post the actual sorority names). There was a girl who pledged XYZ at one school her freshman year. She spent 2 years there, served on Exec, and had a little sister. Her junior year, she decided to transfer to Kent because the journalism program was better here.
When she got here, she met members from ABC sorority (not at her old school). There were alot of girls from ABC in her major and she started hanging out with them alot. They liked her, so they invited her to a COB event. She got a bid, and became a new member of ABC. She never told them about XYZ at all.
Well, in that process, she completely cut out the XYZ's from her life. She stopped talking to her littles and removed all of the XYZ-related stuff rom her Facebook & MySpace, etc and replaced it with ABC.
Her XYZ little was the one who "outed" her. She was wondering why her Big had stopped talking to her since she switched schools. She went on MySpace and saw her page. Lo and behold, she was in ANOTHER sorority.
She notified ABC HQ, and her membership was terminated. She was also terminated from XYZ. This was a pretty big fuss when it was going on because Panhellenic found out about the whole situation in the middle of recruitment. This girl was pretty angry with the XYZs for getting her kicked out of ABC. The ABC's were mad because they felt lied to by her. She ended up transferring to a school out of state because she had no friends here after the whole thing went down.
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10-23-2007, 12:09 PM
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This actually happened at my school awhile back (not going to post the actual sorority names). There was a girl who pledged XYZ at one school her freshman year. She spent 2 years there, served on Exec, and had a little sister. Her junior year, she decided to transfer to Kent because the journalism program was better here.
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Wow. That's so crazy that someone who has already invested so much into her GLO would do that! And by serving on exec, she definitely knew she wasn't supposed to do that!
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10-23-2007, 12:22 PM
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Wow. That's so crazy that someone who has already invested so much into her GLO would do that! And by serving on exec, she definitely knew she wasn't supposed to do that!
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Yeah girls I know from ABC say that when it all went down, she said she knew that it was against rules, but she missed the sorority experience so badly that she didn't care and just kept her XYZ affiliation secret and figured they'd never find out.
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10-23-2007, 12:50 PM
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I think it would be harder for someone to get away with now - the world is a much smaller place due to the Internet. (Facebook, MySpace, GreekChat, etc.)
One of my pledge sisters transferred schools shortly after initiation. She said that she was thinking about rushing again at her new school. I don't know whether or not she did - we lost touch shortly after that. (She transferred out of state.) If I hadn't been a new initiate, I probably would have done something about it, but I didn't realize what my options were.
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10-23-2007, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06
This does happen, but it is against NPC rules. If found out, the girl could have her membership terminated by both groups (depending on their policies).
This actually happened at my school awhile back (not going to post the actual sorority names). There was a girl who pledged XYZ at one school her freshman year. She spent 2 years there, served on Exec, and had a little sister. Her junior year, she decided to transfer to Kent because the journalism program was better here.
When she got here, she met members from ABC sorority (not at her old school). There were alot of girls from ABC in her major in her major and she started hanging out with them alot. They liked her, so they invited her to a COB event. She got a bid, and became a new member of ABC. She never told them about XYZ at all.
Well, in that process, she completely cut out the XYZ's from her life. She stopped talking to her littles and removed all of the XYZ-related stuff rom her Facebook & MySpace, etc and replaced it with ABC.
Her XYZ little was the one who "outed" her. She was wondering why her Big had stopped talking to her since she switched schools. She went on MySpace and saw her page. Lo and behold, she was in ANOTHER sorority.
She notified ABC HQ, and her membership was terminated. She was also terminated from XYZ. This was a pretty big fuss when it was going on because Panhellenic found out about the whole situation in the middle of recruitment. This girl was pretty angry with the XYZs for getting her kicked out of ABC. The ABC's were mad because they felt lied to by her. She ended up transferring to a school out of state because she had no friends here after the whole thing went down.
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Can we say 'idiot'? Now I do not condone trying to join two NPC sororities. Still, if you are going to put that much effort into trying to cut off XYZ, don't broadcast all over myspace that you are now a ABC. Do you really think that your old sisters won't find out?
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10-23-2007, 10:16 PM
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> ... she decided to transfer to Kent because the journalism program was better here.
A journalism major? After that stunt? Who is going to hire her? Maybe the Weekly World News?  But they just folded.
I'm not familiar with the sorority space, but in the fraternity (NIC) space, getting a release from a national is not difficult, under certain circumstances. These have to be "real reasons", not "I just don't like the chapter here".
But, as pointed out on GC a lot, getting a bid after a release is a different story.
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