United 93 - Page 6

ASUADPi · #76 04-27-2006, 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Well when you do become a teacher, have students, a curriculum that's planned then let us know how it goes. Until then I guess we have at least a few worry-free years on our hands.

-Rudey

Hopefully next year. My kids now are Special Needs, so having them discuss 9-11 would be like having me discussing neuro-biology. They wouldn't understand it.

texas*princess · #77 04-27-2006, 06:57 PM

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Originally posted by BobbyTheDon
So does anyone know for a fact that what happened in the movie "United 93" actually happened?

I don't really think so? Some coworkers of mine were talking about some other theories & stuff that they heard..

PM_Mama00 · #78 04-27-2006, 08:17 PM

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Originally posted by HBADPi
Heres the difference between showing SCHINDLER'S list and United 93 in a classroom. There were people who survived the Holocaust and lived to tell the story. What happened on United 93 is totally unknown to all of us so everything shown in this movie is UNQUESTIONABLY objective and unverifiable.

I never said that movies shouldnt be show in the classroom but only if its understood that they are supplements to the course material and not passed as absolute fact. I'm sorry but I cant support showing a movie to children that is based on circumstational evidence...

How do you feel about The Ten Commandments? Passion of the Christ?

I'm pretty sure that not everyone believes the full story of those movies and I'm pretty sure no one that was alive when it was made, was alive when it happened.

HBADPi · #79 04-27-2006, 08:23 PM

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Originally posted by PM_Mama00
How do you feel about The Ten Commandments? Passion of the Christ?

I'm pretty sure that not everyone believes the full story of those movies and I'm pretty sure no one that was alive when it was made, was alive when it happened.

Exactly why I am not religious

macallan25 · #80 04-27-2006, 08:30 PM

For those that do though, movies like Passion of the Christ probobly had a big impact. The sheer brutality of Passion left me almost upset in the stomach.

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Originally posted by PM_Mama00
How do you feel about The Ten Commandments? Passion of the Christ?

I'm pretty sure that not everyone believes the full story of those movies and I'm pretty sure no one that was alive when it was made, was alive when it happened.

BobbyTheDon · #81 04-27-2006, 08:42 PM

So does anyone know for a fact that what happened in the movie "United 93" actually happened?

BobbyTheDon · #82 04-27-2006, 08:46 PM

Hey ASUADPi. I know what you mean when you said being on the west coast we felt so useless.

ugh.

I mean, I wish I could have been out there in New York and used my super human flying abilities to stop that plane from crashing into the buildings.

docetboy · #83 04-27-2006, 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by BobbyTheDon
So does anyone know for a fact that what happened in the movie "United 93" actually happened?

Sure, the ending.........

macallan25 · #84 04-27-2006, 10:49 PM

Thats really not that funny

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Originally posted by BobbyTheDon
Hey ASUADPi. I know what you mean when you said being on the west coast we felt so useless. ugh.

I mean, I wish I could have been out there in New York and used my super human flying abilities to stop that plane from crashing into the buildings.

ASUADPi · #85 04-27-2006, 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by BobbyTheDon
So does anyone know for a fact that what happened in the movie "United 93" actually happened?

The only truth they will know is the phone calls. Was the black box recovered? If so, shouldn't it have the conversation of the pilot and co-pilot.

Everything else is just going to be dramaticized based on what the directors, well people in general, think would have happened.

AGDee · #86 04-27-2006, 10:52 PM

The black box was recovered and the families were allowed to listen to the tapes. They speculated details based on what was heard on the tapes of the black box. They heard the hijackers, they heard the refreshment cart ramming into the door of the cockpit and lots of shouting, both in Arabic and English. Between the cell phone calls made and those tapes, they have been able to piece it together pretty thoroughly.

ETA: You can read the transcript of the cockpit tape here

ZTABullwinkle · #87 04-28-2006, 04:00 AM

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Originally posted by BobbyTheDon
So does anyone know for a fact that what happened in the movie "United 93" actually happened?

From what I have seen reported on the news and read in the magazines (Time, Newsweek, etc. The producers were very careful about making it as realistic as possible. Granted there is the cockpit tape (that I understood would NOT be released to the public, even though it was heard in the Massoui trial) to use for the movie. But apparently many of the actors are actual pilots and flight attendents for actual airlines. Also, the director had sequestered the "terrorists" in a separate hotel, and anywhere else needed from the actors portraying the passengers, pilots, etc. Those actors did not see the faces or talk to the actors playing the "terrorists" until the scene where the plane is taken over was filmed.

If I find an article about it, then I will post it for everyone. But I hope this answers your question BobbyTheDon.

CrimsonTide4 · #88 05-01-2006, 08:25 AM

I saw it. Very moving. Reminded me of a few things that I had forgotten about on that day but it also took me back to that day.

uksparkle · #89 05-03-2006, 01:49 PM

I saw it this past weekend. I wasn't very moved, I thought they could have done a much better job. The end was better than the first hour and half, but by then I was kind of tired of watching it. Also, the camera was so jumpy it was hard to pay attention.

AlphaSigOU · #90 05-05-2006, 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by SydneyK
Yesterday, on the Today Show, one of the producers of the film said that 10% of the proceeds for the first three days after the movie opens will be donated to the Flight 93 memorial fund (or something like that). Katie asked, "Is that enough?" Normally, I find Katie's interjections irritating, but I think she was spot-on in this instance. I mean really, IS that enough?

I don't think I would be so disturbed by the movie if I knew that it was being made for a purpose other than financial gain.

And, OTW referenced the A&E movie... I cried when I watched that, too. But then, once I started thinking about it, I thought, "This is doing nothing but helping terrorists know how to do a *better* job next time." They'll know the ways people found to fight back, and they'll minimize those options.

Am I the only one who is surprised that the government isn't trying to keep this information to themselves? Who knows, maybe they are, but it doesn't seem like anyone's doing anything to keep this info quiet, and it seems to me like it shouldn't be available to those who will take advantage of it.

Not necessarily so. Commercial aircraft already fly with armored flight deck access doors, and many pilots are armed. There are other ways now to thwart a 'squawk 7500' situation (hijacking), but those details (what few I do know) I'm not at liberty to discuss on an open forum.

It's gonna be very difficult these days for terrorists to re-create a takeover of aircraft like that of 9/11, but if you get a REALLY determined group of terrorists, it could happen again. They'll find a vulnerability in aircraft security and exploit it, just like the 9/11 hijackers did.