Entire Duke Lacrosse Team Suspended from Play

[HBADPi]

Originally posted by XOMichelle
I know you think this is an insult, but I just see it differently. Yeah, I did work my butt off to get here, yeah I am working my butt off while I am here so I can be a great dr, but that doesn't mean I'm not lucky. I get the opporunity to have one of the best jobs on the planet (in my opinion!). I work of course, but that's part of the deal. It isn't "selling myself short" -- I worked for what I have, but it doesn't make me less privledged to have it.

Getting a scholarship, getting into a good program, earning awards -- all privledges. People than have a responsibility in return to use them well.

Please learn to spell PRIVILEGE properly...it just kills any point you are trying to make about working hard at school and scholarships...

[Rudey]

Originally posted by XOMichelle
I know you think this is an insult, but I just see it differently. Yeah, I did work my butt off to get here, yeah I am working my butt off while I am here so I can be a great dr, but that doesn't mean I'm not lucky. I get the opporunity to have one of the best jobs on the planet (in my opinion!). I work of course, but that's part of the deal. It isn't "selling myself short" -- I worked for what I have, but it doesn't make me less privledged to have it.

Getting a scholarship, getting into a good program, earning awards -- all privledges. People than have a responsibility in return to use them well.

I'm not sure if maybe you're book smart or you had something else going for you that brought you luck (sports, minority status, first in your family to go to college, from a non-feeder state, or just nice boobs or something).

I'm of the opinion that I worked for what I got and that's that.

-Rudey

[Rudey]

Originally posted by wrigley
Pretty much every state has a huge backlog of DNA samples that have yet to be analyzed because the state funds aren't there to process them. Some DNA samples sit on the shelves for at least two years.

In a unrelated case in Illinois in the death Riley Fox, her father's DNA sample was put in the state queue. This man sat in jail for at least 6 months to a year I think waiting for the results. It costs his family $250,000 out of their own pocket to have the sample analyzed quicker that the states schedule.

Should the lacrosse teams samples receive priority over other cases going on in the state?

Yes, well they indicated when the samples would be finished and then said they wouldn't release it publicly after they said they would.

I mean the entire situation stinks of a DA that is trying to frame the situation as guilty early on.

-Rudey

[HBADPi]

Originally posted by Rudey
I'm not sure if maybe you're book smart or you had something else going for you that brought you luck (sports, minority status, first in your family to go to college, from a non-feeder state, or just nice boobs or something).

I'm of the opinion that I worked for what I got and that's that.

-Rudey

If she was book smart Rudey she would be able to spell...I'm just saying...

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by HBADPi
If she was book smart Rudey she would be able to spell...I'm just saying...

That is incredibly untrue. There are many extremely book smart people that can't spell. It's just one of those things... Example: Some people are horrible at math, but they could give you a detailed timeline of every battle of WWII. And other people couldn't name one battle of the civil war, but could calculate Pi to 38265413064 decimal places.

[Munchkin03]

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
That is incredibly untrue. There are many extremely book smart people that can't spell. It's just one of those things... Example: Some people are horrible at math, but they could give you a detailed timeline of every battle of WWII. And other people couldn't name one battle of the civil war, but could calculate Pi to 38265413064 decimal places.

But, privilege isn't a very hard word to spell.

I don't think I'm lucky at all. I, and generations before me, worked hard for everything I have.

[Optimist Prime]

Fate is real, but so is free will. What some call "destiny" is a dance between them.

[dukedg]

"Lawyers representing Duke lacrosse players... said they have photographs depicting injuries on the body of the alleged victim prior to the time of the reported assault" Duke Chronicle

[Rudey]

Originally posted by dukedg
"Lawyers representing Duke lacrosse players... said they have photographs depicting injuries on the body of the alleged victim prior to the time of the reported assault" Duke Chronicle

They also have conflicting testimony from another stripper/hooker/escort there.

Of course nobody knows who's telling the truth so who knows. Now it's just a big PR war.

-Rudey

[Schmeer]

And now they're saying that DNA testing failed to connect any members of the Duke lax team to the alleged rape:

DNA test clears Lax Team

[Rudey]

Originally posted by Schmeer
And now they're saying that DNA testing failed to connect any members of the Duke lax team to the alleged rape:

DNA test clears Lax Team

And from what they said this is DNA from all over the body. So fingernails, hairs, anything were checked and not just for semen. They also found no traces or latex or lubricants down there.

Today some dick wrote into the NYTimes a nasty editorial about the LAX kids and it was like "I don't mean to stereotype and pre-judge and innocent before guilty, but they're rapists". If this wasn't true, what then?

-Rudey

[Coramoor]

Well I'm just glad we sentenced them to death before we had the results in.

[DeltAlum]

Just as some made accusations of rushing to judgement on the team, are we now assuming they are innocent a little prematurely?

According to the story in the link above:

"District Attorney Mike Nifong has said he would have other evidence to make his case should the DNA analysis prove inconclusive or fail to match a member of the team.

"I believe a sexual assault took place," Nifong told The News & Observer of Raleigh on Monday. "I'm not saying it's over. If that's what they expect, they will be sadly disappointed."

I guess I'll wait to see if anyone is charged -- and after that, whether there is a conviction.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by DeltAlum
Just as some made accusations of rushing to judgement on the team, are we now assuming they are innocent a little prematurely?

According to the story in the link above:

"District Attorney Mike Nifong has said he would have other evidence to make his case should the DNA analysis prove inconclusive or fail to match a member of the team.

"I believe a sexual assault took place," Nifong told The News & Observer of Raleigh on Monday. "I'm not saying it's over. If that's what they expect, they will be sadly disappointed."

I guess I'll wait to see if anyone is charged -- and after that, whether there is a conviction.

It's innocent until proven guilty in America so yes we assume they are innocent. China may do things differently.

The DA has poisoned the environment by stating the rape as a fact, saying he had DNA evidence, saying he would withhold the DNA evidence, and then saying he has other evidence.

DNA is pretty damn important evidence. DNA has been used to free several men who were falsely accused of rape.

And the DA is so sure but he hasn't even charged anyone with a crime.

-Rudey

[DeltAlum]

Originally posted by Rudey
[B]It's innocent until proven guilty in America so yes we assume they are innocent

That's a good point, although I think my context is a little different.

Mine is simply that nobody knows what the totality of the evidence is and we probably aren't wise to decide either way with the very limited knowledge we have.