Chronicles of Narnia! - Page 6

Rio_Kohitsuji · #1 12-18-2005, 10:57 PM

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Originally posted by kstar
But the Magician's Nephew was written next to last, so it should be read next to last, the Lion the Witch and the Wrdrobe was written first, so it should be read first.

I don't understand why, when they switched publishers, that the new publisher started distributing the books in the wrong order.

ETA: ASLAN People! There is no D!

So....what is the proper order?

kstar · #2 12-19-2005, 03:26 AM

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Originally posted by Rio_Kohitsuji
So....what is the proper order?

In order: (Published)

The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (1950)
Prince Caspian (1951)
The Voyage of the Dawn Treader (1952)
The Silver Chair (1953)
The Horse and His Boy (1954)
The Magician's Nephew (1955)
The Last Battle (1956)

christiangirl · #3 12-19-2005, 08:06 PM

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Originally posted by Buttonz
I remember that from the class that I took in Children's Lit that I read this book for...

Really? I just kinda made that up but....um........okay.

Tickled Pink 2 · #4 12-23-2005, 10:54 PM

I saw this last night the symbolism & parallels to Christianity was awesome.

Asland = Jesus (Lion of Judah)
White Witch = Devil
Edmond = Judas Iscariot
Peter
Thomnas = Thomas

The White Witch telling Thomnas that he was there because Edmond sold him out for treats...

The White Witch telling Asland that she required blood to make up for Edmund's betrayal... (and I didn't catch the next part, but someone with me did) or Narnia would burst into flames (hell)

Asland telling the Witch "How dare you talk to me about the law... I was there when it was written..."

Asland giving himself as a sacrifice in Edmund's place...

Asland taking the walk towards the altar and the crowd mocking him (as in the crucifixion) and then they struck him.

Someone (I think it was the witch) asking why didn't he save himself...

The 2 girls coming to Asland and later finding that he wasn't dead (The women coming to annoint Jesus' body and found that he was not dead)

The splitting of the altar (i.e. the renting of the veil)...

Asland going to the White Witch's castle to free the "frozen" prisoners (i.e. Jesus going to free those in hell)

The one drop of the potion that Lucy carried that could heal any wound - which happened to be red (as in blood)...

There also was an earlier part where Asland crowned Peter as Sir Peter Wolfbane, but I saw this as "upon this rock I will build my church (you have to understand the meaning of the name Peter)".

carnation · #5 12-24-2005, 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by kayla0deegee
Ok or even moreso....why didn't Asland just kill the white witch when they were talking in the tent....talk about a timesaver! Then like 500 of Asland's army wouldn't have had to die, nor would have Asland(especially if he knew he would come back to life anyway), and then the White Witch's army wouldn't have known what the hell to do, and the kids still could've been rulers or whatever....
And seriously Edmund was just a big screw up in the movie....all he did was cause trouble....if i were them I would've been like screw you, you little shit...quit causing trouble!

Because then no plot=no movie!

Seriously, don't you think about this in a lot of the movies you go to? Like when the dumb girl walks into the obviously haunted house and you're thinking, "No, no, don't go in!" But my husband would point out that if she didn't go in, that'd be the end of the story so we might as well leave.

carnation · #6 12-27-2005, 08:06 PM

Wooo! We just now saw the movie and are ready to go fight for ASLAN!

And I can't wait for the next one to come out!

dzandiloo · #7 12-28-2005, 12:48 PM

OK, totally not about the movie itself, but in case you didn't see the SNL Short "Lazy Sunday" ...this is hilarious

Mr. Pibb + Red Vines = Crazy Delicious

Kevin · #8 12-28-2005, 02:28 PM

Did anyone else find it amusing that the voice actor for the Christ figure is gay?

dzandiloo · #9 12-28-2005, 06:30 PM

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Did anyone else find it amusing that the voice actor for the Christ figure is gay?

Liam Neeson is gay? I bet Natasha Richardson would be surprised to hear that.

Kevin · #10 12-28-2005, 06:43 PM

My fiancee said the same thing.

I heard it somewhere, then googled a bit to confirm it.

SSS1365 · #11 12-29-2005, 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by ktsnake
My fiancee said the same thing.

I heard it somewhere, then googled a bit to confirm it.

Do you have a link for the page that says he's gay? I googled, but I only found a gay role that he played in a movie. I know that a lot of times when an actor takes on a homosexual role, rumors start to develop that he/she is gay in real life. He's been married since '94, so I doubt he's openly gay.

Beryana · #12 12-31-2005, 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by Rio_Kohitsuji
So....what is the proper order?

While this is published order:

The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (1950)
Prince Caspian (1951)
The Voyage of the Dawn Treader (1952)
The Silver Chair (1953)
The Horse and His Boy (1954)
The Magician's Nephew (1955)
The Last Battle (1956)

The reading order is:
The Magician's Nephew
The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe,
The Horse and His Boy
Prince Caspian
The Voyage of the Dawn Treader
The Silver Chair
The Last Battle

The "new publishers" actually put them in the order that Lewis wanted them to be read in rather than the order they were originally published/writting when they printed the one volume editions. If you have read the books, the stories make more sense because you have more background information when you read them in the order Lewis wanted them to be read.

Sarah

Beryana · #13 12-31-2005, 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by BobbyTheDon
Ok also, did you also realize that there really was no need for the humans?

I'm not sure if this question was meant in earnest, but here is the answer:

Because at the beginning of Narnia (which you will find in the book The Magician's Nephew), it was the humans (Sons and Daughters of Adam) who brought evil into Narnia (the White Witch) when it was new and so humans will have to defeat it. Humans were also made the first King and Queen of Narnia.

I would SERIOUSLY recommend reading all the books. They are rather quick reads - or at least read Magician's Nephew, The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, and the Last Battle if you don't feel like reading all seven! I also would recommend reading some of Lewis' other books - Screwtape Letters, Surprised by Joy, etc.

Sarah

kstar · #14 12-31-2005, 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by Beryana
While this is published order:

The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (1950)
Prince Caspian (1951)
The Voyage of the Dawn Treader (1952)
The Silver Chair (1953)
The Horse and His Boy (1954)
The Magician's Nephew (1955)
The Last Battle (1956)

The reading order is:
The Magician's Nephew
The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe,
The Horse and His Boy
Prince Caspian
The Voyage of the Dawn Treader
The Silver Chair
The Last Battle

The "new publishers" actually put them in the order that Lewis wanted them to be read in rather than the order they were originally published/writting when they printed the one volume editions. If you have read the books, the stories make more sense because you have more background information when you read them in the order Lewis wanted them to be read.

Sarah

Actually Lewis said to read them in writing order, as they won't make much sense if you don't. As the Magician's Nephew (written next to last) refers back to the books written previously.

Beryana · #15 01-01-2006, 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by kstar
Actually Lewis said to read them in writing order, as they won't make much sense if you don't. As the Magician's Nephew (written next to last) refers back to the books written previously.

How does it refer back to the other books. It gives you the background to the story (who the professor is, where the wardrobe came from and why it is connected to Narnia, where the White Witch came from, why animals talk, etc). Some of the middle ones would not make as much sense if you read them out of chronological order (Prince Caspian, Voyage of the Dawn Treader, Silver Chair), however you can actually read them in any order you want.

According to Lewis himself:

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Lewis expressed a mild preference for this second, chronological order. In a letter written in 1957 to an American boy named Laurence, he wrote the following:

'I think I agree with your order {i.e. chronological} for reading the books more than with your mother's. The series was not planned beforehand as she thinks. When I wrote The Lion I did not know I was going to write any more. Then I wrote P. Caspian as a sequel and still didn't think there would be any more, and when I had done The Voyage I felt quite sure it would be the last. But I found as I was wrong. So perhaps it does not matter very much in which order anyone read them. I'm not even sure that all the others were written in the same order in which they were published.

Quoted in "Letters to Children"

Sarah