Kwame from The Apprentice

[stardusttwin]

I can't imagine why they are bringing Omarosa back-I hope its not just creative editing just to inspire drama-we have two people to get fired next week-her 15 minutes are done lets concentrate on the current contestants.

I'm gona go out on a limb and make a prediction...

next week 2 people get cut-I'm predicting Amy then Bill with the finalists being Kwame and Nick.

Katrina was quoted as saying Kwame had won the entire contest but this wasn't true (or verifiable) since the last episode will be (or is supposed to be) live. However that led me to believe that Kwame had to at least survive to be a finalist and her simpleton mind didn't know this when she was running her mouth off. This week, Mr Trump seemed very impressed with Kwame's MBA and doesn't seem phased by Kwame's textbook approach. While Amy impressed me in the past she got by this week on luck and Nick's hard work- I'm sure the editing had something to do with it but I agree with abaici-it really didn't seem fair that they won. In any case Amy is getting cocky, her armour is showing holes and I don't think she will be the ultimate winner.



So I'm out on a limb and predicting Kwame as the winner. Its in writing now, no turning back!

[Rain Man]

As much as I give props to all the brothers and sister TCBing, I have to say that Kwame should've been the one to go.

Compared to Troy, his track record was pitiful, 3X as PM, only won once, whereas Troy was PM several times, and won at least twice. Add that to the fact that his quick thinking on his feet has garnered numerous victories for his team, and WITHOUT a college education.

The Fans of Reality TV website has a list of Apprentice statistics, and b/t Troy and Kwame, Troy's track record was by far superior. I will have to pull up the stats and post them here for you to review. The Donald's rationale that Troy could be a loose cannon at times was pure bulljive--it was a front for his lack of higher education.

I really was rooting for Troy to get the apprenticeship, but right now I really don't care who Trump gives it to.

Good luck to the foursome.

ETA: I think that whole thing of AmyNick winning the contest at the last minute appeared to be severely rigged. You saw it; Protege had a signed contract and was out the door, while you saw in the lobby Amy and Nick sitting there looking defeated and whipped and all of a sudden one of the prospects has a "sudden" change of heart at the last minute and we're supposed to believe that they secured a victory like the fornicating U.S. Calvary came to their rescue? Come on, now, let's cut the bulljive. I find that hard to believe.

[Rain Man]

These are the Apprentice statistics (courtesy of Anemic Dog at fansofrealitytv.com--a message board site similar to GC):

(Team selection - Protege has the eight women, Versacorp the eight men).

1. Lemonade Sales

Win: Protege (EREKA, Heidi, Katrina, Omarosa, Amy, Kristi, Jesse, Tammy) ~$750.
Loss: Versacorp (TROY, Sam, David, Nick, Bill, Kwame, Bowie, Jason) ~$250.
In Boardroom: TROY, Sam, David.
Eliminated: David.
MVP: Kristi, for leading the Red Shoe Diaries approach to lemonade sales.
Reward: Tour of Trump's Apartment.


2. Marquis Jet Presentation

Win: Protege (AMY, Ereka, Heidi, Katrina, Omarosa, Kristi, Jesse, Tammy) Subjective Decision.
Loss: Versacorp (JASON, Nick, Sam, Kwame, Bill, Bowie, Troy).
In Boardroom: JASON, Nick, Sam.
Eliminated: JASON.
MVP: Amy, for aggressive leadership.
Reward: Private Jet Flight/Dinner.


3. Scavenger Hunt

Win: Protege (JESSE, Amy, Ereka, Heidi, Katrina, Omarosa, Kristi, Tammy) -22%.
Loss: Versacorp (SAM, Nick, Bill, Kwame, Bowie, Troy) - 9%.
In Boardroom: SAM, Kwame, Bowie.
Eliminated: SAM.
MVP: Amy, for her negotiations on the golf club.
Reward: Dinner at the 21 Club.


4. Planet Hollywood Restaurant Sales

Win: Protege (KATRINA, Heidi, Amy, Jesse, Omarosa, Kristi, Tammy, Ereka) +31%.
Loss: Versacorp (KWAME, Nick, Bill, Bowie, Troy) +7%.
In Boardroom: KWAME, Bowie, Nick.
Eliminated: Bowie.
MVP: Heidi, for realizing alcohol is the key to profits.
Reward: Visit to Trump Golf Course.


(Team selection - Team leads Nick and Kristi choose sides)

5. Flea Market Purchase and Sales

Win: Versacorp (NICK, Bill, Katrina, Ereka, Tammy, Amy) ~$600.
Loss: Protege (KRISTI, Kwame, Heidi, Troy, Omarosa, Jesse) ~($100).
In Boardroom: KRISTI, Omarosa, Heidi.
Eliminated: KRISTI.
MVP: Nick, for leadership.
Reward: Meeting with George Streinbrenner.


6. Celebrity Auction

Win: Versacorp (BILL, Nick, Katrina, Ereka, Tammy, Amy) $40,000.
Loss: Protege (OMAROSA, Kwame, Heidi, Troy, Jesse) $35,000.
In Boardroom: OMAROSA, Jesse, Heidi.
Eliminated: Jesse.
MVP: Ereka, for her effective work when Tammy was doing her best to emulate the Mole.
Reward: The satisfaction of knowing how to pronounce Mizrahi.


(Team selection - Protege chooses Amy to switch teams)

7. Apartment Renovation and Rental

Win: Protege (TROY, Amy, Omarosa, Heidi, Kwame) $1525/$1200.
Loss: Versacorp (KATRINA, Nick, Bill, Ereka, Tammy) $1650/$1500.
In Boardroom: KATRINA, Tammy, Bill.
Eliminated: Tammy.
MVP: Troy, for getting Katrina completely off her game.
Reward: Picnic on the Grounds of a Trump Mansion.


8. Trump Ice

Win: Protege (HEIDI, Amy, Omarosa, Troy, Kwame) ~$6200.
Loss: Versacorp (EREKA, Nick, Bill, Katrina) ~$4000.
In Boardroom: EREKA, Nick, Bill.
Eliminated: EREKA.
MVP: Troy, for innovative sales ideas.
Reward: Helicopter Flight over Manhattan (Heidi, Amy and Troy only).


(Team selection - Versacorp chooses Amy to switch teams)

9. The Gallery

Win: Versacorp (NICK, Bill, Amy, Katrina) ~$13,600.
Loss: Protege (KWAME, Heidi, Troy, Omarosa) ~$800.
In Boardroom: KWAME, Heidi, Omarosa.
Eliminated: Omarosa.
MVP: Nick, for strong leadership in his choice of artists.
Reward: No more Omarosa (Nick received ten minutes alone with Trump in his apartment).


10. Rickshaw Rides

Win: Versacorp (BILL, Nick, Amy, Katrina) ~$3600.
Loss: Protege (TROY, Heidi, Kwame) ~$300.
In Boardroom: TROY, Heidi.
Eliminated: Heidi.
MVP: Amy, for coming up with the idea to sell advertising on the rickshaws.
Reward: Yacht Ride around Manhattan.


(Team selection - Protege chooses Bill to switch teams)

11. Trump Taj Mahal

Win: Protege (KWAME, Troy, Bill) ~$123,000.
Loss: Versacorp (AMY, Nick, Katrina) ~$105,000.
In Boardroom: AMY, Katrina.
Eliminated: Katrina.
MVP: Bill, for leading the effort to draw high-rollers to gamble with his team's card.
Reward: A night at the Taj Mahal and $1,000 each in cash.


12. Penthouse Suite Rental

Win: Versacorp (NICK, Amy) $40,800.
Loss: Protege (TROY, Bill, Kwame) $35,001.
In Boardroom: TROY, Kwame.
Eliminated: TROY.
MVP: Nick, for negotiating the winning deal, as staged as it appeared.
Reward: A luxury flight, with relatives, to a Trump resort in Miami for an afternoon.



The Numbers

Leaders have been eliminated five times in 12 boardrooms.
The Women are 5-5 as leaders, the men are 7-7 (but 7-3 since the teams were rechosen).


On the Winning Team

Amy 11-1, 92%
Tammy 6-1, 86%
Kristi 4-1, 80%
Ereka 6-2, 75%
Katrina 8-3, 73%
Omarosa 6-3, 67%
Jesse 4-2, 67%
Heidi 6-4, 60%
Bill 5-7, 42%
Nick 5-7, 42%
Kwame 3-9, 25%
Troy 3-9, 25%
David 0-1, 0%
Jason 0-2, 0%
Sam 0-3, 0%
Bowie 0-4, 0%


Record as Leader

Nick 3-0, 100%
Bill 2-0, 100%
Heidi 1-0, 100%
Jesse 1-0, 100%
Amy 1-1, 50%
Katrina 1-1, 50%
Ereka 1-1, 50%
Kwame 1-2, 33%
Troy 1-3, 25%
Sam 0-1, 0%
Jason 0-1, 0%
Omarosa 0-1, 0%
Kristi 0-1, 0%
(Bowie, David and Tammy never led a team)


Number of Times in Boardroom (final, not just as member of a team)

Kwame 4 (2 as leader, chosen 2 times in 7 opportunities)
Heidi 4 (chosen 4 times in 4 opportunities)
Nick 3 (chosen 3 times in 7 opportunities)
Sam 3 (1 as leader, chosen 2 times in 2 opportunities)
Omarosa 3 (1 as leader, chosen 2 times in 2 opportunities)
Troy 3 (3 as leader, chosen 0 times in 6 opportunities)
Bowie 2 (chosen 2 times in 4 opportunities)
Bill 2 (chosen 2 times in 7 opportunities)
Katrina 2 (1 as leader, chosen 1 time in 2 opportunities)
Jason 1 (1 as leader, chosen 0 times in 1 opportunity)
David 1 (chosen 1 time in 1 opportunity)
Ereka 1 (1 as leader, chosen 0 times in 1 opportunity)
Tammy 1 (chosen 1 time in 1 opportunity)
Jesse 1 (chosen 1 time in 2 opportunities)
Kristi 1 (1 as leader, no opportunities to be chosen)
Amy 1 (1 as leader, no opportunities to be chosen)


Trump Survivals (number of times in boardroom without being eliminated)

Kwame 4 (2 as leader)
Nick 3
Heidi 3
Troy 2 (2 as leader)
Bill 2
Sam 2
Omarosa 2 (1 as leader)
Katrina 1 (1 as leader)
Amy 1 (1 as leader)
Bowie 1

[Honeykiss1974]

Originally posted by mullet81
(hi i'm liz you all have fun over here so i thought i'd stop by!)

OMAROSA IS BACK NEXT WEEK

*lol* Really? I may have to watch again to see some drama!

[Reds6]

I really think being fired should be based on performance and not which team won the challenge.

Maybe Kwame's stragey is laying low and not becoming to much of a target, which is working.

[delph998]

Originally posted by Reds6

Maybe Kwame's stragey is laying low and not becoming to much of a target, which is working.

I totally agree with that.

RainMan, you broke those stats down!! Ummm, you must be chillin' at the job today!

[Eclipse]

Originally posted by Sugar_N_Spice
As for Troy, I KNEW he was going home today the minute they began discussing his education level (he never even attended college or earned a BA, and has made mistakes) vs. Kwame (who has an MBA and has also made mistakes)...

Kwame is definately next, b/c all he does is ride off of everyone else's coattails...

I think Troy should have been gone because as much as I like him, he was a big fat liar. He has "fudged" the truth in several challenges to get ahead and that is not cool. That's why they lost that second deal last night.

Speaking of Omarosa, an Atlanta radio station did an April Fool's joke yesterday where the very popular morning show hosts (steve and Vicki) were fired and replaced with Sam and Katrina from Aprentice. The kicker was Omarosa was scheduled to be a guest, but she refused to go on until Katrina left the building. She is too much!

[Rain Man]

I posted a link that allows you to test what Apprentice you are over in the Chit Chat forum. Under what thread? Why, The Apprentice, of course.

Check it out!

[abaici]

I too, think Kwame is a little too laid back. But, as much as I hate to bring up the race factor, I believe it's a smart strategy. Look how Omarosa has been villianized for acting very similar to Heidi. Many people consider Black men threatening. If he came in their guns blazing, his butt would have been gone by now!

Also, the education thing. TROY MADE IT AN ISSUE! He kept brining it up. He should have just shut up. As Trump said, there's nothing wrong with education. Yes, you can lead without one. But, formal education is still very important to serve in the capacity he was aspiring to. Troy could stand to take an ethics class or two.

[Neosoulchild]

Originally posted by mullet81
(hi i'm liz you all have fun over here so i thought i'd stop by!)

OMAROSA IS BACK NEXT WEEK

I watched the rerun on CNBC and they didn't show what was coming up in the next episode... So Omarosa is coming back? Is it just to stir up trouble, is she helping a team out? I think that is strictly for ratings. I agree with whoever said let's focus on the remaining four competitors. I like Kwame, but next week he needs to step it up. I did not see him doing anything for this challenge, except stand by Troy and point out which number to call.

[stardusttwin]

While I agree that it appeared that Nick & Amy's "win" was rigged I have to disagree with this...

Compared to Troy, his track record was pitiful, 3X as PM, only won once, whereas Troy was PM several times, and won at least twice. Add that to the fact that his quick thinking on his feet has garnered numerous victories for his team, and WITHOUT a college education.

Troy can think on his feet but he would not survive in a corporate setting. No one wants to be shmoozed or sweet talked all the time. He played his one-note "sweet country boy" song, got very far with it, and has managed to get a lot of offers so I'm sure he'll do well in the future. I agree he would do well to take an ethics class (after being on the show I doubt he'll be able to keep pulling fast one's on people). With this last challenge he almost lost the deal because of his lying (yes he flat out lied)-Trump can't afford to have someone who plays fast and loose negotiating like that on his behalf because if Troy pulled that mess on a real deal its Trumps name and reputation thats on the line.

Frankly the statistics show just how worthless some statistics are. This decision should not be based purely on wins - Tammy, Ereka, Katrina, Jesse and Heidi all have high stats but I wouldn't hire any of them to wash my dishes- when put to the test they proved just how weak they all were (respectively)

If you look at my previous post's I was never a Kwame fan to begin with-but unless something drastic happens in this next episode I think he's shown the best strategy to win- you dont' have to prove how good you are-just stay in the cut and let the others who run their mouths show how incompetent they are.

[Rain Man]

Originally posted by stardusttwin
[B]With this last challenge he almost lost the deal because of his lying (yes he flat out lied)-Trump can't afford to have someone who plays fast and loose negotiating like that on his behalf because if Troy pulled that mess on a real deal its Trumps name and reputation thats on the line.

But Trump kept Kwame, who played along with Troy on the dubious ethical practices of autographing footballs at Planet Hollywood. Pretty inconsistent, if you ask me.

Frankly the statistics show just how worthless some statistics are. This decision should not be based purely on wins - Tammy, Ereka, Katrina, Jesse and Heidi all have high stats but I wouldn't hire any of them to wash my dishes- when put to the test they proved just how weak they all were (respectively)

IMHO that was not the purpose of the stats. The purpose of the stats were to present an objective look at the performance data of the candidates based on "track record task performance" only. It was never intended to be a be-all, end-all means of determining whether to keep or fire anyone.

If you look at my previous post's I was never a Kwame fan to begin with-but unless something drastic happens in this next episode I think he's shown the best strategy to win- you dont' have to prove how good you are-just stay in the cut and let the others who run their mouths show how incompetent they are.

We'll see (it has worked so far; I initally thought he would make top three; he definately made top 5).

[stardusttwin]

Originally posted by Rain Man
But Trump kept Kwame, who played along with Troy on the dubious ethical practices of autographing footballs at Planet Hollywood. Pretty inconsistent, if you ask me.

If this was Kwame & Troy vs someone who wasn't involved with that task (like Bill who was against it) I could see your point. The consistency in this decision is it was Troy's idea to have Kwame sign those balls (remember George is always watching and reporting back to Trump).

[i]IMHO that was not the purpose of the stats. The purpose of the stats were to present an objective look at the performance data of the candidates based on "track record task performance" only. It was never intended to be a be-all, end-all means of determining whether to keep or fire anyone. [/B]

My point is the stats are not objective - if you looked at the stats you would believe in the early stages of the show that the women were extremely savvy business wise when all they did was flash their T & A to make deals and get the "win". No matter how Trump is with his personal life he was not going to have an unpolished chain smoking Heidi meeting with clients or an insecure Jesse pouting when things didn't go her way.

[stardusttwin]

Originally posted by stardusttwin
I'm gona go out on a limb and make a prediction...

next week 2 people get cut-I'm predicting Amy then Bill with the finalists being Kwame and Nick.

Ok so I got it half right...kind of like getting 5 numbers but missing the yellow mega number .

So who's playing whom? Amy just cut Nick down and followed him right out the door. It was funny how NONE of the people liked Amy-Trumps assistant was a trip when she cut her down. They didn't show much of them working together so it'll be interesting to see how they work with Bill after she just finished dissing Nick to Mr. Trump.

Can I tell you I now have zero respect for Omarossa!! She has mental issues - delusions of grandeur-something is not equating in that big head of hers. She lies without hesitation and then doesn't even lie well. Logistics is VERY important-everyone assumes its easy but its not and she just blew it off. The previews don't show her in the best light either. I hope her husband has a lot of money because I don't see anyone hiring her after this. That girl has MAD issues and I'm sick at her for her behavior tonight.

I still will project Kwame as the winner but that's based on how poorly Bill seems to be handling his project - Kwame (if you're reading this) you can't allow your employees to run all over you. O needed a huge pimp slap for this mess-you're her boss not her friend. (I'm still reeling from ER so I can't formulate my thoughts right now - I was so ready to throw something at the tv over how Carrie was being treated).

I know, I know....relax relate release...its only a television show

[WCUgirl]

I think Bill's going to win.

Kwame, the poor boy, got stuck with Omarosa! Of course his team is going to fail. But he doesn't have the luxury of firing her...however, he could step up and at least speak to her sternly if not give her a good tongue lashing for the crap she's pulling.