Saddam Captured!!!!!

[DeltAlum]

Originally posted by bethany1982
I'll give you a break... just watch some of the various news shows. The libs paint Bush as the antichrist. They whine that the U.S. has not found any WMD's, ignoring the fact that WMD's were only one reason the president gave for going into Iraq. They pay little attention to the fact that Saddam was himself a murderer. Take your break. Liberals hate Bush. Personally, I think it's funny and I expect it. Few minds will change. They hate him and shall continue to hate him. Saddam is a black and white issue, and his being gone is reason enough for our work in Iraq.

And just what does that have to do with this thread? Or didn't you read my entire post? It talks about the politicalization of the thread only.

Edited to add that there is a separate thread specifically to talk about the politics of Saddam's capture.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by moe.ron
It seems the Iranian has enter the fray. They are preparing a criminal complaint to the international court. This is going to get interesting.

I believed over 400,000 Iranians died during the conflict. Although I think the IRaq should be the one trying him, the Iranian should be allowed to send their own prosecutor into Iraq to also try him.

Yes.

-Rudey
--A very painful death.

[moe.ron]

I also think it should not only be a trial, but also a fact finding mission. Find out who supported him, who gave him what, and expose them all, no matter who. He isn't the only one that is guilty.

ETA: I doubt this will happen, too many powerfull people around the world will go down.

[Kevin]

Originally posted by moe.ron
I also think it should not only be a trial, but also a fact finding mission. Find out who supported him, who gave him what, and expose them all, no matter who. He isn't the only one that is guilty.

ETA: I doubt this will happen, too many powerfull people around the world will go down.

I don't think you can necessarily go after everyone that supported him during his presidency. If they had not, they would have been killed. The top lieutenants and those that are carrying on the resistance do share some culpability though.

For many, the Nuremburg defense is still a valid one.

[moe.ron]

Originally posted by ktsnake
I don't think you can necessarily go after everyone that supported him during his presidency. If they had not, they would have been killed. The top lieutenants and those that are carrying on the resistance do share some culpability though.

For many, the Nuremburg defense is still a valid one.

I don't mean by his foot soldiers, though if they qualify for war crime, they should go before lady justice, I'm talking about those who provided material and policy support while knowing that he is using those support in his crime against humanity.

[Love_Spell_6]

Originally posted by enlightenment06
No. Please, no. It ain't even about politics, dems vs. repubs, "I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here!!!"

Yea I was thinking the same thing while reading your posts...no offense....you seem like a conspiracy theorist.....

Like everybody else is brainwashed...maybe its you...ever thought about that??

[Love_Spell_6]

Originally posted by enlightenment06
That's a good point. But actually I was thinking about how Bush lost the popular vote in 2000 which means more people who voted actually wanted somebody not him. Also Bush set the record for having the most people protest against him worldwide in one day. Now that's an accomplishment!

Yea you're right...he did win the popular vote. And I voted for Gore...and at the same time...I'm SO GLAD Bush won.

Are you making a point by deferring to what people around the world think???

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by BetaRose
No, he looks exactly like my dad. I did a double take when I first saw the footage.

About 6 years ago he and my dad looked disturbingly alike - to the point that my friends started calling me Baby Saddam.

[CanadianTeke]

Originally posted by moe.ron
I don't mean by his foot soldiers, though if they qualify for war crime, they should go before lady justice, I'm talking about those who provided material and policy support while knowing that he is using those support in his crime against humanity.

If that were to happen Ronald Regan would have to stand trial for providing chemical weapons to Saddam. and i would be willing to bet the farm thats not gonna happen.

[enlightenment06]

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
Yea I was thinking the same thing while reading your posts...no offense....you seem like a conspiracy theorist.....

Like everybody else is brainwashed...maybe its you...ever thought about that??

no, I've never thought about if I was brainwashed or not, would brainwash me? "smelly liberals?" the left isn't unified enough to "brainwash". However, I have thought about the other side of the coin- as in what if Bush is right? I even considered joining the republican party and tried to get down the College Republicans. But I just don't agree. It's not that I don't think there are some valid points in the republican platform or that there aren't some alright republicans, like John McCain for example. I'd vote for him. But the direction that Bush has taken the republican party, and the country for that matter, is just way too far to the right. And yes, I do think there's a bit of a "conspiracy" if that's what you want to call it. I don't feel like typing everything I think out now, but if you look the 2000 election, Enron, the war in Iraq, put the pieces together and something smells fishy. I also strongly disagree with the notion that we as a nation have some God-given responsibility to bring the "American Way" to everyone else. That's just a modern-day version of taking up the White Man's Burden.

[Love_Spell_6]

Originally posted by enlightenment06
no, I've never thought about if I was brainwashed or not, would brainwash me? "smelly liberals?" the left isn't unified enough to "brainwash". However, I have thought about the other side of the coin- as in what if Bush is right? I even considered joining the republican party and tried to get down the College Republicans. But I just don't agree. It's not that I don't think there are some valid points in the republican platform or that there aren't some alright republicans, like John McCain for example. I'd vote for him. But the direction that Bush has taken the republican party, and the country for that matter, is just way too far to the right. And yes, I do think there's a bit of a "conspiracy" if that's what you want to call it. I don't feel like typing everything I think out now, but if you look the 2000 election, Enron, the war in Iraq, put the pieces together and something smells fishy. I also strongly disagree with the notion that we as a nation have some God-given responsibility to bring the "American Way" to everyone else. That's just a modern-day version of taking up the White Man's Burden.

I hear what you're saying...and I hear the arguments all the time. And actually for me, its not about being republican democrat or a "smelly liberal" Some things I agree with, some I don't. To me right now...the Democrats have placed themselves in a position where they benefit politically if the economy takes a turn for the worse, if we DONT find Bin Laden, and if we DON"T find WMD's..and that bothers me. Lets face it, no politician is perfect, and no PERSON politician or not can be 100% trusted...whether it is Bush, Clinton or Gore...that's why I am an independent and I vote by the issue, not by the party. I just refuse to buy into all the "garbage" that's spewed about Bush i.e. he only went to war for his Dad and that he's this evil little man. Peoples perceptions depend on party affiliation sometimes...because many of the Democrats who were for the war when Clinton was in office..weren't when Bush wanted to go.

Politics as usual I guess...

As far as conspiracy theories...I think I will start a thread on that. I know my community has tons of them that run so deep...people actually perceive them as the truth i.e. AIDS was invented just to kill the black man... and KWANZAA! (although its not a conspiracy theory....many people do believe this "event" has legitimate African origins).

I'm proud to say G Dubya is my president. He's not perfect...but I'll take him over Gore anyday.

[Peaches-n-Cream]

Originally posted by DeltAlum
Give me a break.

Where did anyone say or imply that they support Saddam?

I only hope that someday I'm as sure of myself and politics as a lot of you seem to be.

I don't mean this to aimed specifically at you, Bethany, but your comment above touched a nerve. I have equal frustration with those of you who are so abosutely sure of the opposite viewpoint.

I guess I just keep getting dumber with years and experience, because none of this stuff (speaking of the political side) seems nearly as black and white as it used to be.

On the other hand, maybe experience is a good teacher and some of you will one day notice that there are some shades of gray. Particularly in politics.

In any event, this thread is supposed to be about Saddam being captured.

This is actually the best post that I have read about politics on GC.

[starang21]

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
If u don't know...I'm not the one to tell ya...

This administration could find Bush, Saddam, have everyone in the US employed, and find Waldo....and folx would still have something to complain about and hate Bush for... I just think its funny. Instead of saying this is a great accomplishment...some people have to immediately go to "Yea well...what about this...and what about that..."



PS - If your tone continues in the same manner i.e. "What the hell..." your response will go unanswered.

would it really? people need to keep things in perspective. so what if we caught saddam? what does that mean? does that mean that iraq is going to be better off now as before when he wasn't in power but alive? people just want a scapegoat to blame their problems on.

[bethany1982]

President Clinton speaks out on Saddam's capture....

WASHINGTON (AP) - Former President Clinton praised the capture of Saddam Hussein and said the ousted Iraqi president finally will answer "for decades of tyranny and murder."
"I am glad he was captured alive so he can be brought before the bar of justice," Clinton said Sunday in a statement.

Clinton saluted U.S. troops, who found the bearded and disheveled former dictator in an underground hide-out on a farm near his hometown, Tikrit. Clinton also congratulated his successor in the White House.

"Saddam Hussein's capture is a tribute to the skill and bravery of our troops and the good work of our intelligence officers," Clinton said. "I know President Bush is very proud of our troops today. I congratulate him and them."



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[bethany1982]

Originally posted by DeltAlum
And just what does that have to do with this thread? Or didn't you read my entire post? It talks about the politicalization of the thread only.

Edited to add that there is a separate thread specifically to talk about the politics of Saddam's capture.

Sorry for my mistake.