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06-02-2006, 02:41 PM
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"Judging" in terms of faith only...
Drolefill,
Fred Hatchett is another matter because no, he is not the final authority as to what is ok for everyone.
Faith/salvation is a personal issue and if a believer thinks that joining a GLO will compromise that or cause them to stumble (for biblical reasons/scripture that speaks to them and their needs), then that doesn't mean that you are somehow being "judged" because you didn't have that issue.
I don't see how by Strongbeauty or NewBee giving THEIR reasons for not joining as "judgement" to you or any other Christian that did. Just like by you and other Christians joining a GLO doesn't automatically discredit their personal reasons or means that you are "judging" them (as being close-minded or wrong).
It goes both ways.....
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06-02-2006, 04:00 PM
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I have no problem with those who choose not to join, and do not judge nor fault them for that. Only when those come and question our ability to be Christian and Greek, not in a inquisitive manner but in a disapproving manner.
I think people are understandably annoyed by those who say we are "yoking ourselves to unbelievers" and how can we do that and still be Christian. Quite frankly I've spent 22 years being Christian without ever worrying about yoking myself to anything. Joining a GLO is a personal decision. Let those of us who are Christian do it without being criticized by others.
I'm not really upset... just bugged by it.
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06-02-2006, 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by Drolefille
I have no problem with those who choose not to join, and do not judge nor fault them for that. Only when those come and question our ability to be Christian and Greek, not in a inquisitive manner but in a disapproving manner.
I think people are understandably annoyed by those who say we are "yoking ourselves to unbelievers" and how can we do that and still be Christian. Quite frankly I've spent 22 years being Christian without ever worrying about yoking myself to anything. Joining a GLO is a personal decision. Let those of us who are Christian do it without being criticized by others.
I'm not really upset... just bugged by it.
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I'm bugged by it, too...
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06-02-2006, 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by Strongbeauty
If an org claims to be founded on or based on certain principles, then the expectation is that they will keep inline with those principles. You can't have it both ways (James 1:8- "A double minded man is unstable in all his ways"). The only displeasure I have with the Greek system as a whole is hazing.
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Right and churches and spiritual leaders (ie organizations for the purpose of argument) are always 'keeping in line with christian principles? There is never any corruption in churches, huh? I could run down a list of common problems in churches that aren't in line with christian principles but that does not discredit the fact those churches, ie organizatios, were founded on christian principles.
You are sounding like a "double minded man" right now. Apply those same standards thats you are applying to "the greek system" to your beloved church.
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06-02-2006, 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by SKEEphistAKAte
Right and churches and spiritual leaders (ie organizations for the purpose of argument) are always 'keeping in line with christian principles? There is never any corruption in churches, huh? I could run down a list of common problems in churches that aren't in line with christian principles but that does not discredit the fact those churches, ie organizatios, were founded on christian principles.
You are sounding like a "double minded man" right now. Apply those same standards thats you are applying to "the greek system" to your beloved church.
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Let the "real" church, say a-a-a-men (singing the tune)..
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06-02-2006, 06:35 PM
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im glad i read this b/c i know of brothers who have quit b/c of religion and bruhs who are talking to their minister whomever about the frat. I myself don't have any issues but understanding or getting to know the facts more is great from a NEO
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06-02-2006, 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by SKEEphistAKAte
Right and churches and spiritual leaders (ie organizations for the purpose of argument) are always 'keeping in line with christian principles? There is never any corruption in churches, huh? I could run down a list of common problems in churches that aren't in line with christian principles but that does not discredit the fact those churches, ie organizatios, were founded on christian principles.
You are sounding like a "double minded man" right now. Apply those same standards thats you are applying to "the greek system" to your beloved church.
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Your beloved church sounds highly disrespectful and I take offense.
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06-02-2006, 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by f8nacn
Let the "real" church, say a-a-a-men (singing the tune)..
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UH...................ok
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06-02-2006, 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by teena
Your beloved church sounds highly disrespectful and I take offense.
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Clearly, I don't give a rip what your take offense to.
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06-03-2006, 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by RedefinedDiva
NewBee, StrongBeauty, and Focus: Do you ladies attend Christian universities?
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No I do not.
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06-03-2006, 11:00 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: GOD and orgs
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Originally posted by NewBee
All Christians are supposed to be messengers of GOD. Its called the Great Commission. Be blessed.
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Right!!!!
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06-03-2006, 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by RedefinedDiva
Please don't make assumptions. I was simply asking a question.... No need to get defensive in advance.
Another question for the same three: Did you join a site specifically targeted to Greeks simply to come in and tell Greeks how wrong their choice is?
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That was never my intention. I was interested at one point before finding out all that I did. I just happened to see the thread and thought I would answer the question.
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06-03-2006, 10:12 PM
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Originally posted by SKEEphistAKAte
Clearly, I don't give a rip what your take offense to.
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I know.
It is one thing to have a discussion, its another to be disrespectful. You are very disrespectful to people's faith and beliefs. That is the road you choose to travel, knock yourself out. I wouldnt do it, but hey that's me.
**SMH leaving this thread
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06-04-2006, 02:08 PM
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Not disrespectful to people's beliefs I am disrespectful to people.
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06-04-2006, 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by SKEEphistAKAte
Not disrespectful to people's beliefs I am disrespectful to people.
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That explains a lot about you. Not that your post hadn't done so before, but seeing your admission to this is quite honestly very comforting on one level and very disturbing on another.
But that is a discussion for another time.
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