curious

you are just one more *SIGH* in my life...

could you please explain what the "slave mentality" is? oh no, wait, i forgot, you have never been a slave so how could you possibly know? i didn't know time travel was possible.

[AlphaChiGirl]

<<Could you please explain what the "slave mentality" is? Oh no, wait, I forgot, you have never been a slave so how could you possibly know?>>
--Perhaps she's referring to the "crabs in a barrel" mentality? I really can't come up with what a "slave mentality" is, but I'd love to hear her explanation.

[Wynna]

I've been reading this thread for a long time and I try not to get upset over topics such as this one. Prettygyrl, much love to you for representing and holding your own. I think, however, that this discussion should be closed because no one is going to change anyone's mind.

For the White folks who do not understand what the "slave mentality" is (and if there are African-Americans who are not sure, that's pretty sad) let me clarify for you.

Slave mentality: the mentality of the average slave! Slaves learned to appease their White masters and White people in general --to do and give them everything their little hearts desired (in order to avoid being mistreated of course).

What Prettygyrl is trying to say is that we are our own people and should be proud of that. I don't think we have to include everyone in what is rightfully ours. I don't mean to offend anyone, but this is a White person's world and what little we have, we should hold dear to us. In my personal opinion, when a White person joins an organization founded by and for African Americans instead of one of their own they are simply flaunting their power and their ability to do whatever they want. We've been stripped of our prized possessions long enough, why offer it voluntarily?

It's hurts me to know that many African Americans equate success with White. This is evident in the relationships of many of our successful Black men (some women, not many). When we feel like we've 'reached the top' and have acquired quite a bit of cash flow, then we want to go out and get a White mate. How many African American actors/actresses and athletes with White partners can you think of? What happened? We were good enough when they didn't have any money!

Anyway, I think it's time we expressed pride in ourselves and our culture (we have one, you know). I sincerly apologize if I've hurt anyone by my statements, but they are my opinions and mine alone. Thanks!

You can send all emails to Wynnakt@cs.com

[HER_STORY]

prettygyrl..... is there a difference if a white person killed a black person and if a black person killed another black person?

[prettygyrl]

Thanks Wyanna! I truly love the love! If Greek and Alpha Chi Girl did not know what is meant by slave mentality then they are truly a waste of my time to even respond to. I think Alpha chi girl is Black! If she do not know what that means then its obvious she is not up on HER history no wonder she chose to roll with the other side! By the way Alpha Chi I beleive the choice you made in sororities has alot to do with your "slave mentality"! You are wrong Greek I am a slave! We are all still slaving in this White ran world! It may not be with whips and chains but we are enslaved mentally , economically, socially, politically. so on and so forth! Since alot of you have REALLY proven yourselfs completely lost on this subject Wyanna is right it should be closed! Some of you need to use some of the time you spend posting up in here to go out and purchase yourself a clue or two! If some of you want to keep this going go right ahead but try and keep the mention of my name to a minimal because some of the things some people say are truly a waste of good forum space and will def not even warrant a reply from me anymore! I love the love! I am out!

SOMEONE (won't say who cause she doesn't want her name used) said:
"I think Alpha chi girl is Black! If she do not know what that means then its obvious she is not up on HER history no wonder she chose to roll with the other side! By the way Alpha Chi I beleive the choice you made in sororities has alot to do with your "slave mentality"! You are wrong Greek I am a slave!"

How DARE you judge what AlphaChiGirl has chosen to do with her life. You are obviously very insecure in your own and think that everyone else should lead the hateful, monotonous life you lead. People do what they want to do, obviously Alpha Chi was the right sorority for that ONE INDIVIDUAL. She doesn't have any "mentality" except her own!

And one thing i'll never understand...when i was miserable living in the south, i moved up to the north where i felt there were more opportunities and jobs for me. IF YOU ARE SO UNHAPPY WITH YOUR LIFE, MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE!!! move to alaska, china, africa, new mexico...wherever YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE. don't expect everyone else to change for you. go to where you are happy. and i'm not saying move because you're black, i'm saying if you are unhappy with your situation, any situation, go somewhere else.

[HER_STORY]

pretty gyrl......i noticed that you did not respond to my question. is there a difference between white on black crime and black on black crime?

[prettygyrl]

You know I love the fact that yall just can not get enough of me.......but this is just for her story. whats your addy her story cause as far as this forum goes i am done you want an answer then post your e-mail or hit me up in mine asiablake@hotmail.com.

Originally posted by HER_STORY:
pretty gyrl......i noticed that you did not respond to my question. is there a difference between white on black crime and black on black crime?

She didn't answer your question because she CAN'T answer it...most people know that there is no color difference when a crime is committed! But please leave it be...if she says she's through on here then I'm celebrating!

[AlphaChiGirl]

Does this mean she's gone off of the entire board, or just this topic? Either way, thank God! I don't need anyone to discuss my mentality, my decision in choosing an organization, and I certainly don't need someone to question my knowlegde of my people's history. As I've discussed it with many on this board, choosing between the NPC and NPHC, as well as among the groups on my own campus...and I chose the best group for me, and if anyone has any problem with that, so be it.

"I was so much smarter when I was 17 years old"--Unknown

[Salience]

Originally posted by Consideration:
She didn't answer your question because she CAN'T answer it...most people know that there is no color difference when a crime is committed!

Can't let this be: there is, throughout history until the modern day, and statistically, a difference in sentences for a white man convicted of killing a black man, than a black man killing another. But this is not the space to debate this most serious of topics.


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Subtlety is the key ;o)

Salience -
Your point is very TRUE (not that it makes it right). My point is simply that when it comes to the ACTUAL crime - there should be no difference. It is sad when a person, regardless of nationality, is killed, no matter what color the skin of the killer is.

[DELTABRAT]

Wynna,

Loved your response. Concise,, coherent, factual, respectful.

Prettygyrl, yeah, take it off to the side (although someone answered the question). You know folks can't take you sistah.

greek: It is not quite that easy to just pick up and move elsewhere. Besides, the people I know who did that found a rude awakening. The white man cannot be escaped. Period. Moving from the south (overt racism) to the north 9covert racism) is totally different. Racism is still alive and well. You know that.

Consideration:

I agree that a life should be "worth" the same regardless of race. That is not the case in AmeriKKKa. We know this. It's sad though, huh? The Black man's life is pretty much worthless in this country and has been from day one. Wanna see a sentence? See that of a black man who kills ANYONE, let alone a white person. Check out the number of political prisoners incarcerated for doing NOTHING!!! But are accused of crimes against who? White people. Can you imagine?
Something has to be done. Black folks however, have become real complacent in this day and age. We have become satisfied with the crumbs society has "allowed" us to have.

Enough of this though. I think we are all frustrated with this society and the way it treats people...white and black. Asian and American Indian...EVERYBODY.

I am at work...I always am at work on this page. Anybody got a job in Los Angeles for a little Black girl from the inner city in case I lose this one?

I have to apologize to Consideration. I could NOT remember the name every time I got onto my page to type the responses. I AM TRULY SORRY
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[HER_STORY]

ok.......i already knew the answer but i posted that in response to prettygyrl's post about white people, slavery and not being able to forgive them (and that's your business). that was back in the 1800's but here in the 70's 80's and 90's the crimes commited against my family and friends were done at the hands of BLACK MEN. with the worst one being a young black man putting a gun to my grandmother's head and shooting her at point blank range becaue she refused to let go of HER purse!!!!!! then the mf ran and did not even take the damn purse. thats why i asked the question because the fact that it was done by another black person didn't/doesn't lessen the pain felt by my family.

[ManndingoNUPE]

I am rather late to this party. I have never posted on this subject, becuase I think that we can never really resovle these issues, especially not over the internet with a few dozen people who have never met, have no idea what thier background is, or what experiences have helped to shape thier lives. I personally disagree with most of the poeple on here, and that is due to the factors that have shaped my life.

I don't think that Prtygrl's feeling can be simply dimissed, as well as the feelings of those that are attacking her viewpoint. Let's all agree to disgree. There is no winning this debate. This issue is older and bigger than all of us here. If great men such as Malcom X, Martin Luther King, WEB DuBois, can't eradicate the problems that are faced by African Americans, then how will we do it on a chat board. Comeon folks.

Some whites, and some blacks will never really get what it is to be an African American inn this country.

Just my $19.11 worth.