Interested in AI

[Titchou]

Sen, that's why I used such words as "usually", "typically", etc. Please pay attention.

And I didn't draw any comparisions to NPHC groups as I know they work differently than NPC groups. The OP is interested only in NPC groups so there would be no reason to talk about NPHC.

[Sen's Revenge]

Originally Posted by Titchou

Sen, that's why I used such words as "usually", "typically", etc. Please pay attention.

No, you didn't and you haven't. You think you have, but bless your heart anyway.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Titchou

And I didn't draw any comparisions to NPHC groups as I know they work differently than NPC groups. The OP is interested only in NPC groups so there would be no reason to talk about NPHC.

NPHC was first mentioned by AnchorAlumna. Tld221 offered an "NPHC perspective" disclaimer to her post. Then DuBaiSis commented about the odd silence of the NPHC.

I wasn't making an NPHC comparison in my initial post about whether the GC NPCers should consider how much information should be provided.

[pinksequins]

Anchor Alumna simply inquired for contextual clarity. Since NPC and NPHC approach joining a bit differently, my sense is that she did not want to provide an NPC perspective for someone interested in NPHC. The OP received very solid advice to approach her two friends since AI isn't a website meet-up activity.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by pinksequins

Anchor Alumna simply inquired for contextual clarity. Since NPC and NPHC approach joining a bit differently, my sense is that she did not want to provide an NPC perspective for someone interested in NPHC.

I know. But that was the first mention of NPHC. I saw nothing in the OP's post that seemed like an alumna NPHC aspirant.

[AOII Angel]

Who is NPC to tell a member organization that they can't offer AI to any woman who has not been initiated into another group? UA means Unanimous Agreement. Good luck getting all 26 groups to agree on this subject. If ABC has a liberal policy of offering sisterhood to any interested woman, that is the business of that GLO, not the NPC. I agree with Titchou. There is no need for UAs regarding AI. Woman are free to contact any group and those groups may use their own criteria when deciding how to approach AI. As long as no woman AIs into multiple groups, the UAs have no bearing.

[33girl]

NPC has a UA saying its collegiate chapters can't initiate girls in high school....no one seems to have a problem with that.

I agree with you that there's a snowball's chance of getting all 26 to agree on ANYTHING about this issue, but the vast differences between each group's policies may be part of the reason some people look askance at AI.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Who is NPC to tell a member organization that they can't offer AI to any woman who has not been initiated into another group? UA means Unanimous Agreement. Good luck getting all 26 groups to agree on this subject. If ABC has a liberal policy of offering sisterhood to any interested woman, that is the business of that GLO, not the NPC. I agree with Titchou. There is no need for UAs regarding AI. Woman are free to contact any group and those groups may use their own criteria when deciding how to approach AI. As long as no woman AIs into multiple groups, the UAs have no bearing.

I think the issue is that NPC members are AI'ing women who HAVE been initiated into another group. It just came up in another thread.

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

I think the issue is that NPC members are AI'ing women who HAVE been initiated into another group. It just came up in another thread.

Well then, that's problem with the local alumnae or whomever not doing due diligence - just like with collegiate chapters. Of course, some people can hide that information pretty well. My GLO has a policy that collegiate chapters should check with the previous campus of any transfers to see if they went thru recruitment. Granted, most don't do that but I always did whenever I was doing recruitment.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by Titchou

Well then, that's problem with the local alumnae or whomever not doing due diligence - just like with collegiate chapters. Of course, some people can hide that information pretty well. My GLO has a policy that collegiate chapters should check with the previous campus of any transfers to see if they went thru recruitment. Granted, most don't do that but I always did whenever I was doing recruitment.

No, it was known. An NPC group knowingly AI'ed a member of a NALFO group and included that information in the AI's bio. That's a very strange move, and it's not clear if that's specific to AI.

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

No, it was known. An NPC group knowingly AI'ed a member of a NALFO group and included that information in the AI's bio. That's a very strange move, and it's not clear if that's specific to AI.

There's no agreement between the two organizations to not pledge/initiate members of the others. It might not be the polite thing to do but there is not an NPC rule against it.

[sigmagirl2000]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

I think the issue is that NPC members are AI'ing women who HAVE been initiated into another group. It just came up in another thread.

clearly I missed this thread..... happen to have a link? I'm not finding it through searching

[pinksequins]

Quote:
Can you PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT NPHC in my thread? No offense, but I do not qualify for NPHC, thus why I am not seeking one of their organizations. Also, I do not think there was ANY mention of anything in any of my posts that would allow someone to think I was. I do not understand why the
topic was brought up, and so adamantly discussed when it is of no relevance to my question or situation.


How nice* ....

* (Southern irony used in response to an impropriety, not the harsh urban Dictionary definition)

[msPana]

Well I thought it was openness and sisterhood on this greekchat. This is very discouraging to a prospect. Sometimes sororities and fraternities become people's lives. (Which they should be for members.)But what about those who admire the service and work of a particular organization? What about those who aspire to be apart of such an outstanding group of people and make it their purpose in life to acheive such a goal? Making assumptions and being "stabby" towards someone due to their mishaps is beyond commendable. I do not believe your sorority, whether it be NPC or NPHC, will be proud of the choice of words and the deformation of history/ sisterhood placed on this forum. The atttitude given to an Al is that of a "Mean girl". We, as women, already have a lot to deal with a lot when it comes to being treated unjustly in this world. The meaning of "sisterhood" is used so loosely and then followed with an attitude or a stir in a non-greek direction. I am not greek and did not get the chance to go through a collegiate MIP. This did not distract me or stop me. I knew plenty of associates whom joined, but in reality, I knew I would be a part of the sisterhood I researched whether then or later in life. Do not be the reason a Woman is sent in a different direction. I am, personally, way too strong to let people knock me down. I was broke! Graduated with my Bachelors and made it out. Watch what you say about the less fortunate because we end up being the "over achievers/ most loyal" to the sorority you are making out to be something totally different. Never judge a book by its cover because you may not have been sitting in your spot if it weren't for people you know. Support is what is needed, not backlash. Goodnight. Stay blessed and prayed up!

[thetalady]

Originally Posted by msPana

Well I thought it was openness and sisterhood on this greekchat. This is very discouraging to a prospect. Sometimes sororities and fraternities become people's lives. (Which they should be for members.)But what about those who admire the service and work of a particular organization? What about those who aspire to be apart of such an outstanding group of people and make it their purpose in life to acheive such a goal? Making assumptions and being "stabby" towards someone due to their mishaps is beyond commendable. I do not believe your sorority, whether it be NPC or NPHC, will be proud of the choice of words and the deformation of history/ sisterhood placed on this forum. The atttitude given to an Al is that of a "Mean girl". We, as women, already have a lot to deal with a lot when it comes to being treated unjustly in this world. The meaning of "sisterhood" is used so loosely and then followed with an attitude or a stir in a non-greek direction. I am not greek and did not get the chance to go through a collegiate MIP. This did not distract me or stop me. I knew plenty of associates whom joined, but in reality, I knew I would be a part of the sisterhood I researched whether then or later in life. Do not be the reason a Woman is sent in a different direction. I am, personally, way too strong to let people knock me down. I was broke! Graduated with my Bachelors and made it out. Watch what you say about the less fortunate because we end up being the "over achievers/ most loyal" to the sorority you are making out to be something totally different. Never judge a book by its cover because you may not have been sitting in your spot if it weren't for people you know. Support is what is needed, not backlash. Goodnight. Stay blessed and prayed up!

This thread has absolutely nothing to do with you or your journey. How curious that you would become so upset over it....