U of Alabama Fall 2012 Recruitment Dates - Page 6

28StGreek · #1 07-14-2012, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Because they just don't know. I am pretty sure that my mom never even wrote me a legacy introduction form for her group.

A colleague's daughter rushed at an SEC school a few years ago, and declined my offer for a rec, because the website says you don't need them (I wrote in anyway, but with obviously limited info).

In the internet age, I find it hard to accept that a PNM may just not know. Especially if they (or their parents) have to fork out at least $100 to register I would hope they put some effort into researching what they are signing up for. Being the OCD person I am, I looked up the undergraduate registration fee for Alabama admission and thats $40.

Then again if these PNMs don't have the tenacity to bother to look these things up maybe thats another way to narrow the incredibly large numbers.

The large numbers has made me wonder what the SRC program at Bama is like. Has anyone on GC been one recently? They must have so many each fall that Sigma Rho Chi could be their own mini-sorority at Bama!

AZTheta · #2 07-14-2012, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by arrowlady

Had a classmate of D's (we're from Texas) ask me to write for her for Alabama. Told her I would be happy to as she is a really sweet girl and just beautiful. Got her resume and was

shocked at her grades. A 2.7 eek.. I did send it but told her not to expect full schedules due to the amount of girls, being OOS and grades. She told me its ok she has 2 friends in one of the houses and they will get her in their house.. Hope it all works out, I know her friends are telling her this stuff.. Worries me though.

This statement caught my eye. This behavior by actives is one of the ways sororities can and do get verbally thrased/trashed by PNMs. I know of it first-hand, and not just for my own chapter. PNMs are "promised invites/we'll get you in" by their active friends, and boy does it get ugly when the PNM gets released after Open House rounds. Hell hath no fury like a PNM with internet access who has been released from recruitment.

GPA is a hard and fast line, notwithstanding those chapters that may permit "grade exceptions" (and don't get me started on that topic).

KSUViolet06 · #3 07-14-2012, 03:52 PM

A lot of times, it's the "to do" thing for seniors in their HS, from their sports teams, etc. So they figure they're going to do it too, not realizing how much effort it takes if you're a first gen. greek or first gen. college student with few sources for recs.

BamaGirlPNM · #4 07-14-2012, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

A lot of times, it's the "to do" thing for seniors in their HS, from their sports teams, etc. So they figure they're going to do it too, not realizing how much effort it takes if you're a first gen. greek or first gen. college student with few sources for recs.

I second this. Spring semester of senior year it's a huge discussion topic among girls and many perceive sorority life just as a way to party or be popular. They really don't understand the process or what it's all about they just sign up.

future pnmmom · #5 07-14-2012, 07:37 PM

IF A SORORITY REQUIRES A POTENTIAL MEMBER TO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION, IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE INDIVIDUAL SORORITY TO OBTAIN A RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU.
"Just remember that once you register for recruitment, each sorority will receive a copy of your information. If they do not have a recommendation for you already, they will use the information you have provided to find a recommendation for you."

I copied this from Auburn's Panhellinic website. If girls don't know someone personally with sorority experience, then I can see why they wouldn't think they need to secure recs. Or why they ask at the last minute if someone finally did clue them in that they do.

TNAuburnMom · #6 07-14-2012, 10:10 PM

Had I not stumbled upon this website, neither my daughter nor I would have thought to try to secure recs because this is the statement we read on the web site and it was also reiterated at the Greek Life portion of orientation. My sister and I are the only college graduates in our family and we both went to a local, mostly commuter college. Even after I showed her what I read on GC, she said, "But they said they'd get them and we did not need to. What if they get mad that I get them when they said not to?"

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Originally Posted by future pnmmom

IF A SORORITY REQUIRES A POTENTIAL MEMBER TO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION, IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE INDIVIDUAL SORORITY TO OBTAIN A RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU.
"Just remember that once you register for recruitment, each sorority will receive a copy of your information. If they do not have a recommendation for you already, they will use the information you have provided to find a recommendation for you."

I copied this from Auburn's Panhellinic website. If girls don't know someone personally with sorority experience, then I can see why they wouldn't think they need to secure recs. Or why they ask at the last minute if someone finally did clue them in that they do.

Titchou · #7 07-14-2012, 08:19 PM

It is true that it's the sorority's responsibility to get the rec. The reality is that with 1200-2000 PNMs registering between June 1 and August 1, it is physically impossible for the chapters at these "recs are required" schools to get them. The PNMs know in the spring that they are going to Big SEC U and that they are probably going to go thru recruitment. So it behooves them to take the task on themselves - otherwise, they fall thru the proverbial crack. It's just reality. I don't think any of us who live this think it's necessarily right it just is what it is. The chapters do try to get them but if you truly want to be considered by all the chapters, your best bet is to do it yourself. Welcome to the real world.

carnation · #8 07-14-2012, 08:20 PM

What she said. Plus I can't even imagine scrambling around for recs for the last minute registrants.

33girl · #9 07-14-2012, 09:02 PM

The blurb futurepnmmom posted would be a little better if it said "they will use the information you have provided to try to find a recommendation for you." In other words, if they don't succeed when they try, you are SOL.

KSUViolet06 · #10 07-14-2012, 10:00 PM

Or even "they will try, but recognize that with approximately 2,000 PNMs in recruitment, it is not feasible for the chapters to secure them for all PNMs. For this reason, it is advised that you attempt to secure your own recs."

Unfortunately, if it said that, I can GUARANTEE you that some PNMs/parents won't listen.

People like to think that they're the exception and that "of course the chapter will secure a rec for ME because I'm special."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the women for whom the chapters tend to get recs are those well-known PNMs who maybe are (for some odd reason) missing one. Or one who is well-connected (e.g. friends with members from HS and is on the chapter's radar) but somehow missing one.

Sciencewoman · #11 07-14-2012, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the women for whom the chapters tend to get recs are those well-known PNMs who maybe are (for some odd reason) missing one. Or one who is well-connected (e.g. friends with members from HS and is on the chapter's radar) but somehow missing one.

And, I hate to say it, but I'm sure there are cases where someone says she will write a rec, but then doesn't, and the PNM doesn't even know that the woman did not follow through.

A colleague told me that her daughter applied for a selective, university-based math camp this summer. When she didn't hear back from them on the admission notification date, she called. It turns out that the HS teacher who agreed to complete the required teacher rec. form never sent it in, so her application was incomplete. That would really frost my cake! She was planning to ask her to write one of her college admissions recommendations letters...I said, ask someone else.

28StGreek · #12 07-15-2012, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

People like to think that they're the exception and that "of course the chapter will secure a rec for ME because I'm special."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the women for whom the chapters tend to get recs are those well-known PNMs who maybe are (for some odd reason) missing one. Or one who is well-connected (e.g. friends with members from HS and is on the chapter's radar) but somehow missing one.

Yeah I am sure a chapter would go out of their way to secure a rec if its the Governor's, or the Football coach's daughter or someone similar. But that is an extremely small minority.

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Oh, sure. I was responding to posters above who were incredulous that women would not have all of their recs in order months in advance.

I just feel that if you are going to a certain school maybe you should find out more about it. Especially when the registration fee is $100+

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Originally Posted by Titchou

The PNMs know in the spring that they are going to Big SEC U and that they are probably going to go thru recruitment. So it behooves them to take the task on themselves

This is close to my opinion. There are credible alternate sources of Greek life experience online besides Greek Chat. I feel College Confidential posters have a somewhat good idea on advice (with exception to tier talk) with regarding Greek Life at SC.

KSUViolet06 · #13 07-17-2012, 08:05 PM

Bama's recruitment guidebook is up online if anyone is interested:

http://alabama.theginsystem.com/?opt...test&Itemid=45

BamaGirlPNM · #14 07-17-2012, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

Bama's recruitment guidebook is up online if anyone is interested:

http://alabama.theginsystem.com/?opt...test&Itemid=45

I am so happy that they put this out because it's really helpful. I am worried however that since I did my recs early that I may have accidentally used some of last years recruitment chairs names on the envelope. As I look at the list of names and addresses some I remember writing out and others I don't. Hopefully I did them correctly and if I didn't I hope they understand, after all I was just going off of the information on the panhellenic website at the time, it's a shame they didn't have it updated earlier.

SoCalGirl · #15 07-18-2012, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

Bama's recruitment guidebook is up online if anyone is interested:

http://alabama.theginsystem.com/?opt...test&Itemid=45

That's got to be the best booklet I've seen yet.

They fully explain the "pref card" and have spots for the PNMs thoughts on each chapter.

My only complaint, the Panhell pics oddly have all the brown haired girls on the bottom row.