UGA 2010 Fall Recruitment

[dgdramadawg]

Originally Posted by lifeguardM

Daughter told her mom that quota was 48 and her house had over 60 on the bid list. Doesn't sound to me like snap bids.

A chapter can snap to total, I believe.

[dgdramadawg]

Originally Posted by lifeguardM

Daughter told her mom that quota was 48 and her house had over 60 on the bid list. Doesn't sound to me like snap bids.

Quota at UGA this year is 54 + 8 upperclassmen (62 total)

This sounds like the chapter got 48 and then snapped to 60.

[OleMissGlitter]

AOII pledged 62 new members! (11 legacies might I add)

[momuga]

SC Mom:

Welcome your daughter to Tri Delta. I am a sister and so is my darling daughter. I haven't heard yet how many new sisters we welcomed tonight into the house. They are bright young women and your daughter will be thrilled with her new sisters.

The new house is goregeous and they will be able to enjoy is for four years.

Let us steadfastly love one another -

and Delta love to both of them

[SouthernComfor]

Originally Posted by momuga

SC Mom:

Welcome your daughter to Tri Delta. I am a sister and so is my darling daughter. I haven't heard yet how many new sisters we welcomed tonight into the house. They are bright young women and your daughter will be thrilled with her new sisters.

The new house is goregeous and they will be able to enjoy is for four years.

Let us steadfastly love one another -

and Delta love to both of them

To all the GCers who gave such good advice on preparing for recruitment and explaining the process, who acted as virtual hand holders for myself and the other moms of PNMs, who sent messages of congratulations...THANK YOU!!

To momuga: I can't tell you how happy and excited I was when I found out you and your daughter are DDDs. Your comments about 'UGA on the inside' from yours and your daughter's perspectives were so helpful and some of my favorites when this mom was worrying about her PNM. I feel even better about the excellent choice my daughter made on pledging Tri-Delta and thrilled that our daughters will be sisters. Thank you!

[PiPhiERDoc]

quota 48 x 17 = 816 bids
and they started with 1274...ouch. Even with some QA's, that seems like a pretty big drop.

[NUBlue&Blue]

That sounds like a really small quota for UGA....so it's probably snap bids. That scenario happened to two girls from our HS a few years ago. Both had dropped out of rush after heavy cuts, did not attend pref round and were snapped the next day.

Sometimes the girls don't understand exactly what is going on......

[Benzgirl]

Congrats to your daughter and Tri-Delta. She will love it, even if she has to Duck and Cover again!

[grkadv99]

Just wanted to comment on the idea that a chapter received women on their bid list that "suicided" and were not invited to their preference event. As a campus-based advisor, please let me assure you there is no possible way that chapter members would know that these women "suicided". The only individuals who see the Membership Agreement Forms are the Panhellenic Advisor and potentially if the RFM happens to be on campus during Formal Recruitment. The Membership Agreement form is the most private part of Recruitment in order to protect the PNM. Even if these women did not attend the chapters preference night, these women would never know that they single intentional preferenced their chapter, which makes the scenario seem very suspicious. The comment above that explains a chapter snap bidding unmatched women is much more realistic, and how flex lists actually work. At no time will a Panhellenic, RFM, or Panhellenic Advisor arbitrarily assign women bids to chapters just to "meet numbers"; particularly at a competitive recruitment campus.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by dgdramadawg

A chapter can snap to total, I believe.

I think a chapter can only snap to quota, although they can offer bids to total with little to no restrictions once bid day has begun (or ended?)

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by lifeguardM

I agree that the suicide wouldn't be public knowledge, but in this day and age of instant communication, isn't it likely that the girl told what she did and it got back to the sorority? Lots of the girls were telling people who they chose as their first choice yesterday.

It is highly unlikely that an entire chapter knows that a PNM suicided. And really, PNM is generally not going to tell an entire chapter about it BEFORE bids have been given out. It would do nothing but hurt her if everyone knew she did it and didn't get a bid. Makes no sense.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by grkadv99

Just wanted to comment on the idea that a chapter received women on their bid list that "suicided" and were not invited to their preference event. As a campus-based advisor, please let me assure you there is no possible way that chapter members would know that these women "suicided". The only individuals who see the Membership Agreement Forms are the Panhellenic Advisor and potentially if the RFM happens to be on campus during Formal Recruitment. The Membership Agreement form is the most private part of Recruitment in order to protect the PNM. Even if these women did not attend the chapters preference night, these women would never know that they single intentional preferenced their chapter, which makes the scenario seem very suspicious. The comment above that explains a chapter snap bidding unmatched women is much more realistic, and how flex lists actually work. At no time will a Panhellenic, RFM, or Panhellenic Advisor arbitrarily assign women bids to chapters just to "meet numbers"; particularly at a competitive recruitment campus.

Exactly. Thank you.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by lifeguardM

Can someone please help me with a question? Just talked to a friend whose daughter is an active in a sorority at UGA. Very interesting story. Daughter's sorority just got their bid list and found out that girls who weren't even invited back for prefs at their house were able to suicide for her sorority and get in. I'm so confused! She said that UGA is doing something called flex.. (I didn't really understand what she meant by that.) Anyway, Panhellenic didn't want girls to be left with without a house at all, so they gave them the sorority they suicided - even though that exact sorority cut them before prefs. Her sorority made above quota, so it wasn't a numbers thing. Can someone please explain this?? I thought a cut was a cut during rush - no going back. Why would UGA do this to their sororities? It's like they are rewarding the girls for suiciding despite the fact that the sorority didn't want them.

Originally Posted by PiPhiERDoc

As far as the bid list goes, chapters can choose to add women to their bid list even if they did not attend the chapter's party. This is often the case if they invite women to their preference and those women elect to go to other chapters, most of the time if the chapter liked those women enough to invite them for preference, they would be delighted to have them in the house.

That being said...its not really a flex list per se for the bid list.

And per NPC rules...a woman who single intentional pref's any house, regardless of whether or not she attended a pref party there, is NOT available for quota additions.

My best guess is that the chapter did not in fact make quota and made snap bids to those women who did not match through regular matching.

Originally Posted by PiPhiERDoc

It's like they are rewarding the girls for suiciding despite the fact that the sorority didn't want them.

And this is simply not possible. No panhellenic could offer a PNM a bid from a chapter without their consent - only the chapter can offer a bid

I think often times a chapter adviser and membership/recruitment chairs will make decisions about who to make snap bids behind the scenes on the day of bid matching that the chapter doesn't know about. While those women who SIP wouldn't be eligible for QA, if they went unmatched they ARE eligible for snap bids or COB.[/QUOTE]

I agree that these were probably snap bids. Nobody, even the recruitment advisor or chapter advisor should know what a young woman put on her bid card so the "fact" that they SIPed is probably rumor or speculation. Panhellenic officers may have that information, but it shouldn't be known to anybody else. Even in the days of hand matching, unless a woman's card went around more than once, we didn't know who else was listed or in what order. I don't believe that women in chapters of almost 200 all know exactly what went on, who was on the bid list, etc. Women can be on the bid list even though they didn't attend pref in some circumstances. I'd chalk this one up to the rumor mill.

[IHeartUGA]

Alpha Gam got 67 new members!

[Lightning Bug!]

Congratulations to your DDD daughter! My beloved grandmother was (I guess still is) one of the first members of the UGA DDD chapter! She still lives in Athens but not in good enough shape to go visit the new house - but I know she was excited about it. I hear they are lovely young ladies!