Sprite Step-Off Update: ZTA and AKA to share 1st place - Page 6

SydneyK · #1 02-27-2010, 01:24 PM

I hate sharing stories about how ridiculous my thought-process was in my early college days, but sometimes it's appropriate.

When I was a collegian, one of the other sororities on campus hosted a talent show each year as a philanthropy fund-raiser. One year, my roommate and sister (the only African American NPCer on campus at the time) taught us a step routine. We drove her to her wits' end, but she managed to teach us. We did that step routine at the talent show and were received with such mixed reviews. NPC orgs looked at us like we each had two heads; NPHC orgs were extremely supportive. We had anticipated a reception almost exactly opposite of that. We were afraid NPHC would think we were treading on "their" territory.

I was completely unaware of the cultural aspects of what we were doing on stage, and I didn't realize its historical significance, either. I still don't fully understand those things, but at least I recognize that they exist. Still, I was completely oblivious to it at 19. Perhaps the ladies of ZTA approached their routine from the same naieve mind-set. (Not approving what they did, just providing a possible reason for why they did it.)

Swerving back to my lane, now.

AU_ZTA86 · #2 02-27-2010, 03:39 PM

First of all, I am by no means any 'Step' expert nor would I claim to be but I have a couple of questions:
1. Are 'steps' trademarked??
2. Is there a rule against re-using a tride and true step routine?? Are those trademarked as well??

I suspect (and it may be a incorrect suspecion) that had an NPHC org won using what may have been deemed as taking steps from another org/campus, that this would not be an issue.

I congratulate my Epsilon sisters for their effort and thank the AKAs for introducing them to stepping (FACT) 16 years ago. If those orgs didn't want to be inclusive in the event then they should not have opened the opportunity up.

JMHO.

knight_shadow · #3 02-27-2010, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AU_ZTA86

First of all, I am by no means any 'Step' expert nor would I claim to be but I have a couple of questions:
1. Are 'steps' trademarked??
2. Is there a rule against re-using a tride and true step routine?? Are those trademarked as well??

I suspect (and it may be a incorrect suspecion) that had an NPHC org won using what may have been deemed as taking steps from another org/campus, that this would not be an issue.

I congratulate my Epsilon sisters for their effort and thank the AKAs for introducing them to stepping (FACT) 16 years ago. If those orgs didn't want to be inclusive in the event then they should not have opened the opportunity up.

JMHO.

It wouldn't be an issue because the D9 organizations don't use other organizations' steps (unless it's a tribute step). While the moves aren't trademarked, it's common knowledge that certain orgs use certain moves.

AU_ZTA86 · #4 02-27-2010, 04:01 PM

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It wouldn't be an issue because the D9 organizations don't use other organizations' steps (unless it's a tribute step). While the moves aren't trademarked, it's common knowledge that certain orgs use certain moves.

Out of ignorance, is it commonly know as an org what steps an org uses at each campus that they are represented at? Surely their is some variety and customization for the environment!

knight_shadow · #5 02-27-2010, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AU_ZTA86

Out of ignorance, is it commonly know as an org what steps an org uses at each campus that they are represented at? Surely their is some variety and customization for the environment!

Most of the non-NIC/NPC organizations aren't that chapter-focused, so yes, people know about the signature steps.

Yes, the shows will have some variety, but they still have their signature moves (Kappas are going to shimmy, Omegas are going to hop, etc).

DrPhil · #6 02-27-2010, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AU_ZTA86

I suspect (and it may be a incorrect suspecion) that had an NPHC org won using what may have been deemed as taking steps from another org/campus, that this would not be an issue.

You are incorrect and most of what you said in your post has been discussed in these threads. Try reading them.

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...and thank the AKAs for introducing them to stepping (FACT) 16 years ago.

Did you think you were introducing this to us? If so, read the threads.

AU_ZTA86 · #7 02-27-2010, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil

You are incorrect and most of what you said in your post has been discussed in these threads. Try reading them.

Did you think you were introducing this to us? If so, read the threads.

No need to be nasty. We don't all have time to crawl through every single thread.

DrPhil · #8 02-27-2010, 04:18 PM

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No need to be nasty. We don't all have time to crawl through every single thread.

Either read up on it in these threads or stay on the sidelines.

That's what I try to do when I comment on GLO topics that I don't know much about, and GCers politely tell me I don't know what I'm talking about.

DrPhil · #9 02-27-2010, 04:55 PM

Oh well, I guess this is the closest we'll get to any trace of a GC Race War. This was fun although clouded in GLO rants. Pop the bubbly, Senusret I, it's a partial celebration.

Senusret I · #10 02-27-2010, 05:44 PM

GC Race War 2010: A Dud.

DrPhil · #11 02-27-2010, 05:53 PM

O ye of little faith.

dreamseeker · #12 02-27-2010, 06:19 PM

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Who in the hell are you? Nobody ever told me that my "disclaimers" make me look worse, so maybe you should just keep your opinions to yourself. You may not like what I have to say, but I don't really respect much of what you say, either. I know you think you're someone special, but you're not. Maybe if you had something of interest to contribute every now and then, other than bitching about what someone else had to say-then I'd give a damn what you thought.

you're lying. you did not go through all her posts, read them and decided you didn't respect her. right now you're just coming off as a little snotty bitch. just saying. #kanyeshrug

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I did.

as did i.

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Always have to have the last word, right?

Yes, I do hope we can eventually win this "award" or "honor" or whatever you want to call it. Considering they were "awarded" scholarship money tells me they won an "award" by doing this.

Making the ZTAs share an award for 1st place to appease people shows me how childish some people have made this.

you really don't know what's going on still.

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I think als463 is too wrapped in her random and misdirected emotions to know what our disclaimers comments were in reference to. It had nothing to do with ZTA, stepping, or stepshows. It was about what was embedded in the way she expressed her opinion.

That entertainingly brings us full circle and I'm sure I'm not the only person who notices that and is amused.

nope

AU_ZTA86 · #13 02-27-2010, 07:39 PM

Let it be - two very deserving organizations are sharing an awesome title. Let's leave it at that?!?!?!

rhoyaltempest · #14 02-27-2010, 07:42 PM

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Let it be - two very deserving organizations are sharing an awesome title. Let's leave it at that?!?!?!

We are on to a much larger issue that WE want to discuss. Move on.

LatinaAlumna · #15 02-28-2010, 09:00 PM

^That reminds me of a Greek President's Council meeting I was at as an undergrad, where the NPHC groups were invited to "come step" at a supposed "all-greek" event. I recall the Sigma Gamma Rho President stating, "If you want us to be part of it, we need to be part of ALL of it--that means the planning, the workshops, the games, etc. You don't ask us to just come put on a show then leave."

And that never happened again!!