240,000 dollars awarded to man forced to cover Arab T-shirt

[DaemonSeid]

Lets keep this in perspective, a young man who wore this...minding his own business





and lets not forget this gem from MIT



The Fake Bomb Shirt

Now remember she PURPOSEFULLY was seeking attention:

"She said that it was a piece of art and she wanted to stand out on career day," State Police Maj. Scott Pare, the commanding officer at the airport, said at a news conference. "She claims that it was just art and that she was proud of the art and she wanted to display it."


....at the F*CKING AIRPORT????

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3635225&page=1

which bothers you more....?

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

Really? Neither were hailed as documentaries, right?

You're right. I thought maybe it was in the description from Todd Beamer.

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Lets keep this in perspective, a young man who wore this...minding his own business





and lets not forget this gem from MIT



The Fake Bomb Shirt

Now remember she PURPOSEFULLY was seeking attention:

"She said that it was a piece of art and she wanted to stand out on career day," State Police Maj. Scott Pare, the commanding officer at the airport, said at a news conference. "She claims that it was just art and that she was proud of the art and she wanted to display it."


....at the F*CKING AIRPORT????

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3635225&page=1

which bothers you more....?

This chick bothers me more. Free spirit my ass. I feel like that's making fun of a national tragedy. Why the HELL would anyone do that? (the part about her walking around barefoot on campus kinda grosses me out too)

All of this kinda reminds me of when a friend of mine decided it'd be ok to wear a tshirt with a huge marijuana leaf on the front (kinda like an Adidas logo shirt) and got pulled over by customs on his way either into or out of Canada. He got pulled over strictly because of the shirt.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

You're right. I thought maybe it was in the description from Todd Beamer.



This chick bothers me more. Free spirit my ass. I feel like that's making fun of a national tragedy. Why the HELL would anyone do that? (the part about her walking around barefoot on campus kinda grosses me out too)

All of this kinda reminds me of when a friend of mine decided it'd be ok to wear a tshirt with a huge marijuana leaf on the front (kinda like an Adidas logo shirt) and got pulled over by customs on his way either into or out of Canada. He got pulled over strictly because of the shirt.

on a sort of a sidenote....

I remember hearing never to become 'a walking advertisement' because of perception...moreso if you have NO CLUE as to what you are wearing or whose face you have on your clothes.

Just the same as people I have seen wearing Che or Malcolm or Tupac or even a football jersey simply because 'it's cool' or 'racy' with no bearing as to what other people are going to do.

I believe that the guy in question had no intentions of causing a riot or pissing people off because he probably had a good idea of the purpose of what his shirt stood for when he bought it.

Now the MIT lady...quite a different tangent...she may be a free spirirt, but a shirt like that is provacative and again she is probably lucky to be in one peice...wearing that TO an airport post 9/11 is a recipe for disaster.

Something else to consider: When watching movies, what do would be terrorists in the movies do?

TRY HARD AS HELL TO BLEND IN.

PM...the overarching lesson in this is as I stated before, we cannot dare ASSume that just because someone looks different or more succinctly, looks similar to those who have done us harm are OUT to cause harm because sometimes the main ones out to do are those who look like us as this was pointed out earlier.

Moreso, some of those fears we have, we must get over and move on lest we let our paranoia get the best of us.


I can't tell you what to do about the elevator...but I can say that you walk a fine line when you profile people.

You know what, if you have never seen it before, rent Crash.

Seriously.

[SWTXBelle]

http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/...skthepilot304/

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/...skthepilot304/

Loved this comment here and it speaks volumes:

Not only did security at JFK assume that Jarrar was potentially dangerous because of his shirt, they also assumed that making him remove the shirt would do away with the danger.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Loved this comment here and it speaks volumes:

Not only did security at JFK assume that Jarrar was potentially dangerous because of his shirt, they also assumed that making him remove the shirt would do away with the danger.

Which is why I asked this...

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

Question: Was this guy arrested? Was he not allowed to fly? Or was he simply asked to change his shirt? Keep in mind, this doesn’t change my opinion about this matter any, but if he was only asked to change and/or cover his shirt, what’s the point? The guy could have put on a sweatshirt, but still hijacked the plane just as easily as if he was only wearing the original shirt.

If you're going to remove someone from the plane because they could potentially be dangerous, that's one thing. To be afraid of a saying on a shirt, and to ask the man to remove it, while still allowing him to fly, is ridiculous... and pointless.

[moe.ron]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

Which is why I asked this...



If you're going to remove someone from the plane because they could potentially be dangerous, that's one thing. To be afraid of a saying on a shirt, and to ask the man to remove it, while still allowing him to fly, is ridiculous... and pointless.

You have to wonder then, was the offending person just blatantly a bigot?

[epchick]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Loved this comment here and it speaks volumes:

Not only did security at JFK assume that Jarrar was potentially dangerous because of his shirt, they also assumed that making him remove the shirt would do away with the danger.

Dang those people must have thought it was a magical shirt. Put it on and you have terrorist abilities.....take it off and you're just an average Joe Shmoe. Good looking out JFK authorities

[DaemonSeid]

This particluar story shory should home in on the point that the person that threatens to blow up a plane may very well look like you


http://www.ajc.com/services/content/...svc=7&cxcat=13

Video: http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?se...les&id=6592616

[starang21]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

I am around Arabs every day. I went to school in Dearborn for gosh sakes... the most Arab populated city in the country. I've never once felt threatened by any of them.

i'm not racist, my best friend's middle eastern. i even had one in my house a few years ago.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Then what's the point of discussion?

Agreeing to disagree is for the birds. It goes without saying that you won't change people's minds. The point is to understand different points of view. That requires clear and concise expressions of the points of view.

i always figured it's to make people feel dumb for being wrong.

[starang21]

where can i buy that shirt? i need 240,000 dollars

[starang21]

Originally Posted by AGDee

Profiling is a reality.

^^^^^

justifying infringing on people's rights.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by starang21

i'm not racist, my best friend's middle eastern. i even had one in my house a few years ago.

I just have one deliver pizza 10 mins ago....MMmmmm...Im still alive!

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

I just have one deliver pizza 10 mins ago....MMmmmm...Im still alive!

It'll just kill you in twenty years with a heart attack when you least expect it! Terrorist!!