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bruinaphi · #76 06-17-2004, 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by ktsnake
The bar looks like a beeotch.

Here in Oklahoma it consists of two days -- 1st day is 8 hours and multiple choice.

2nd day is 8 hours and essay.

Personally, I'm going to have to say that scares the bejeezes out of me. It does kind of explain why a lot of people get their JD's and go into other fields.

OK doesn't have the multistate? In CA the bar is three complete days. The first day is 3 essays in the morning and a performance test in the afternoon. The second day is the multistate, composed of 200 multiple choice questions spread out 100 in the morning and 100 in the afternoon. They have a variety of fact patterns and are very challenging. The third day is 3 essays in the morning again and a performance test in the afternoon.

Performance tests are "closed world" situations where the bar gives you case law or statutes and you have to either write a memo, a pleading or rewrite a statute. For those who have taken real property, the second performance test on my bar was on the "Rule Against Perpetuities." We had to rewrite the statute. The whole room was laughing when we opened it up. Can you imagine a more tortious way to spend 3 hours than writing about the RAP?

LD

Kevin · #77 06-17-2004, 11:27 PM

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Originally posted by bruinaphi
OK doesn't have the multistate? In CA the bar is three complete days. The first day is 3 essays in the morning and a performance test in the afternoon. The second day is the multistate, composed of 200 multiple choice questions spread out 100 in the morning and 100 in the afternoon. They have a variety of fact patterns and are very challenging. The third day is 3 essays in the morning again and a performance test in the afternoon.

Performance tests are "closed world" situations where the bar gives you case law or statutes and you have to either write a memo, a pleading or rewrite a statute. For those who have taken real property, the second performance test on my bar was on the "Rule Against Perpetuities." We had to rewrite the statute. The whole room was laughing when we opened it up. Can you imagine a more tortious way to spend 3 hours than writing about the RAP?

LD

All I have to go on here is hearsay. I'm not really sure -- that's the way it was about 5 years ago is all I know. Could have -- and probably has changed since then.

Kevin · #78 06-18-2004, 09:56 AM

22 Days.

WCUgirl · #79 06-23-2004, 12:09 PM

Received this email from a friend of mine who is also a paralegal. Thought it was cute:

Last night as I lay sleeping, I died or so it seemed,
Then I went to heaven, but only in my dreams
Up there St. Peter met me, standing at the pearly gates,
He said "I must check your record, please stand here and wait."
He turned and said "Your record is covered with terrible flaws,
On earth I see you rallied for every losing cause,"
I see that you drank alcohol and smoked and used drugs too,
Fact is, you've done everything a good person should never do.
We can't have people like you up here your life was full of sin,
Then he read the last of my record took my hand and said "Come in."
He led me up to the big boss and said "take her in and treat her well,"
"She used to work in a law firm, she's done her time in hell."

lyrelyre · #80 06-23-2004, 12:47 PM

Hilarious and, unfortunately, freaking true.

AXORissa · #81 06-24-2004, 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by bruinaphi
OK doesn't have the multistate? In CA the bar is three complete days.
LD

Really, three days?? I thought it was 2 in most states. In NJ, its 2: one for NJ itself, and one for the multistate. People usually take either PA, FL or NY at the same time, making it three days. My cousin took the NY bar on a Tues, multistate on Wed, and NJ on thursday. That's what I'm planning on doing also.

I'm glad I'm not taking California. NY is going to be bad enough.

dzandiloo · #82 06-24-2004, 04:56 PM

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Originally posted by bruinaphi
Performance tests are "closed world" situations where the bar gives you case law or statutes and you have to either write a memo, a pleading or rewrite a statute. For those who have taken real property, the second performance test on my bar was on the "Rule Against Perpetuities." We had to rewrite the statute. The whole room was laughing when we opened it up. Can you imagine a more tortious way to spend 3 hours than writing about the RAP?

LD

ACH! No RAP!!!! We had to write a memo to the judge about a specific issue, using fictional case law & statutes. It has been one year since I took the Texas Bar, and it still makes me physically ill to think about it. That was the first time I ever thought I was going to lose my breakfast during a test...that would have sucked for my fellow test-takers b/c you aren't allowed to leave the room during the first 15 minutes of the test!

TX Bar is 2.5 days. 1st day is Texas Criminal/Civil Procedure & Evidence-short answer, (actually not too bad) and the MPT (which pissed me off. I just spent 3 years in law school. If I couldn't do legal analysis & writing, I wouldn't have graduated!). That's our half day. Day 2 is MBE - scared the crap out of me & everyone else I talked to afterward. We were all told by our friends who took it in Feb that is was fair--none of us felt that way when we were done, and knew we would be taking the thing again. Day 3 is Texas Essays--12 essays total. I can b.s. my way through essays pretty well...it was still kind of tough, but I felt way better about it than the MBE.

I thought about taking the NM Bar about 2 months ago, but then remembered how awful it was to do it first time (you have to take the MBE & MPT & Multistate Essay), so I got over that. I'll just stick to my Texas license & send my people w/NM property problems across the border!

lyrelyre · #83 06-24-2004, 05:03 PM

Oklahoma has the MBE and the MPRE. Most opt to take the MPRE when they are a 2L or 3L. If you don't the bar is 3 days. So as far as I know (unless there is some multistate that I don't know about) we take the multistate.

OtterXO · #84 06-24-2004, 05:57 PM

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Originally posted by bruinaphi

Performance tests are "closed world" situations where the bar gives you case law or statutes and you have to either write a memo, a pleading or rewrite a statute. For those who have taken real property, the second performance test on my bar was on the "Rule Against Perpetuities." We had to rewrite the statute. The whole room was laughing when we opened it up. Can you imagine a more tortious way to spend 3 hours than writing about the RAP?

LD

I literally can't think of a worse subject to write on...I think I would have laughed too, I imagine that's all you can do! At my schools some first year law professors did not teach the RAP in property (or future interests)! Can you believe that!?!!?!?

Kevin · #85 06-24-2004, 05:59 PM

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Originally posted by lyrelyre
Oklahoma has the MBE and the MPRE. Most opt to take the MPRE when they are a 2L or 3L. If you don't the bar is 3 days. So as far as I know (unless there is some multistate that I don't know about) we take the multistate.

Good to know.