Why was the thread asking why LadyLonghorn's thread was moved moved?

[jwright25]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

I don't need a moderator deciding what is offensive and what isn't.

In my opinion, this site does not, or should I say should not, exist to promote a positive image of Greek life. It is merely an outlet for Greeks to interact, and as such it is valuable as a realistic portrayal of Greek life.

When the site is micro-moderated, visitors are left with a sanitized forum and therefore it loses its value as a truthful portayal. It becomes a product of the views of the moderators, rather than the regular posters.

Lady Longhorn's post, and even the ensuing drama, is just part of a whole that is GC. I don't think any of it should have been altered other than obscenity. All of it represented the opinions of the posters, and that is exactly what GC should be, in my opinion.

I agree 100% with your whole post, but these are my favorite passages. As everyone can see from my signature, I am not a fan of any kind of censorship. I believe that everyone should be able to express his or her own opinion on a message board, even if that opinion is that another poster is a raging asshat.

And I don't care about the cussing. Aren't we all adults? Aren't we all exposed to it every day? And if some people think they will spontaneously combust because they read four little letters on a computer screen, perhaps they need to pursue other forms of entertainment that don't involve real people in the real world. This isn't ChurchChat.

I also agree with the point that GC is "self-moderated." If someone gives idiotic advice (as was recently given), the more knowledgeable posters step in to correct the mistaken poster and guide the asker correctly. But if the idiotic posts are always removed, how will we be able to discern who is giving valuable advice and who is a moron? Leave them up for the record! Leave the corrections up for the record! Let everyone who is considering posting read what has been done in error, and they will think twice before posting the same stupid thing.

LL's thread should have stood as a beacon to all the HM's. First they should be able to read her excellent advice. Then they should read what will happen to them if they try to barge in on the membership selection practices of NPC sororities. I can hear the fwapping now (great sig TC). They are going to come here and post the exact same things that start this shit up. And they won't know any better since all the previous HM drama has been removed.

[33girl]

It was more to clear what I thought was your confusion. The supermods have already heard me say all that.

[epchick]

Dang that other "why" thread must have taken a turn after my "experience=children" post, because there wasn't any cursing or insulting going on before that.

What I don't understand is why any one poster is held in higher regard than others. It seems as though its ok for posters (mainly new ones) to insult people like OTW, yet its not ok for an older poster (like they signed up years ago) to "insult" (if that's what you wanna call it) someone else. That's pretty crappy moderating if you ask me.

Originally Posted by EE-BO

As for LL's post- while I did like, it needed a little tweaking. It was a great smackdown for the HMs, but there will also be moms coming here to post (and tons more to just read) who are genuinely sad and upset, and just want some advice on how to counsel their daughters. Not all the moms are Helicopter Moms, and given how incredibly important sorority recruitment is- EASILY the MOST emotionally driven aspect of Greek Life- it needed a little bit of finesse in parts.

I'll admit I didn't read LL's original thread, it was moved before I even got to see it. Yet i'm confident enough in many GCers to know that if they are upset about it, then there is something wrong.

Mom's who are upset & sad are welcome to post, I don't think there is anyone here who is denying that. Yet, how many moms have come here peacefully. Pretty much none of them, they resort to all sorts of insults. Look @ what happened last night in Jill's thread. Calling members "nasty witches," hoping her daughter doesn't join our sorority, etc. That's what we go through practically everytime.

There are always going to be disagreements, but deleting/moving the topic does not help matters. Certain moderators don't seem to care about that. They care more about the new members' feelings & opinions, than they ever are about the older members. How is that right?

[irishpipes]

epchick, furthering your post, why do moderator's care about ANYONE'S feelings? Moderating is a task, not a skill. I don't understand why moderators review content other than for basic obscenity or spam. Otherwise, there would have to be some training or auditing qualifications for moderators.

I didn't even agree with LL's post entirely. I just believe in a free exchange of ideas.

To be honest, I generally dislike probably half or more of all posts on GC - by that I mean a lot of posters tend to be unnecessarily aggressive, intolerant, even hostile, and I'm not really like that. That being said, so what? A lot of people ARE aggressive, intolerant, and hostile. So I wouldn't have them over for dinner. It doesn't mean their opinions/posts should be disallowed as part of an open discussion.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

epchick, furthering your post, why do moderator's care about ANYONE'S feelings? Moderating is a task, not a skill. I don't understand why moderators review content other than for basic obscenity or spam. Otherwise, there would have to be some training or auditing qualifications for moderators.

I didn't even agree with LL's post entirely. I just believe in a free exchange of ideas.

To be honest, I generally dislike probably half or more of all posts on GC - by that I mean a lot of posters tend to be unnecessarily aggressive, intolerant, even hostile, and I'm not really like that. That being said, so what? A lot of people ARE aggressive, intolerant, and hostile. So I wouldn't have them over for dinner. It doesn't mean their opinions/posts should be disallowed as part of an open discussion.

Exactly. Like you said, moderating should be there for the more vulgar exchanges, as well as to stop any more personal attacks (i.e. BA & Earp stalkerish behaviors). They should not be there to decide who's opinion is more valid than another. That goes for moderator's opinions as well. I don't think that a moderator's opinion should supercede my opinion just because they are a moderator.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by epchick

I don't think that a moderator's opinion should supercede my opinion just because they are a moderator.

AMEN.

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

So this is like high school. But then, the mod teaches high school so maybe this is her outlet to imitate her students. Whatever, I'm naive and expect mods to act like adults.

BTW...what does it take to have a mod replaced?

You could ask TOM EARP, because that was enough to get me demodded.

[nittanyalum]

Wait, EARP had the pull to get someone demodded, but the shenanigans in the recruitment forum have apparently gone unchecked for years???

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

Wait, EARP had the pull to get someone demodded . . . .

I take it that was before Earp got demodded.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I take it that was before Earp got demodded.

Earp and GP got demodded at the same time.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

You could ask TOM EARP, because that was enough to get me demodded.

You are to funny to say the very least!

I did not have anything to do with you do with You, KDDani, nor AlphaChiOAlum getting demoded. OTW, quit out of a snit! You three were demoded because of what you all did and handled yourselfs.

As far as Recruitment these were the same ones who complained so much about me being a Mod on that along with another Mod=Co-Mod!

Yes we were all demoded at the same time!

At far as the Recruitment and AI thread, some of the same ones as mentioned raised such a stink that I was taken of as a Mod along with LXAAlum! Some of the same ones wanted a AI in the AI Thread!

So, I suggested an AI who was a GPB and someone raised hell about her and said NO! I wonder who said NO?

Well since I have been
so maligned, I hope this will help the new folks on GC and put a burr under some saddles!

[cuteASAbug]

Tom, this thread has nothing to do with the AI forum needing moderator.

[SydneyK]

Originally Posted by Jen

It's too shitting bad that banning doesn't fucking last forever.

lol.

Being banned on GC is like being killed off on a soap opera; it's never really final. (Die again, Stefano... for real this time!)

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by SydneyK

lol.

Being banned on GC is like being killed off on a soap opera; it's never really final. (Die again, Stefano... for real this time!)

LOL

is Stefano STILL terrorizing the Bradys?????

[ZTAMich]

Originally Posted by texas*princess

LOL

is Stefano STILL terrorizing the Bradys?????

take out Stefano and put in....

take out the Bradys and put in....

haha