Status of all-male chapters

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

In other words, you can't prove I ever said it. That's what I thought.

Senusret, you have a bad habit of deflecting when you are taken to task on something you know you can't prove. I thought you were above such juvenile tactics. Step it up, partner.

In other words, I never thought I'd have to quote it for posterity. But clearly, since I'm dealing with a liar and teller of tall tales (dead babies, anyone?), I will know to do so in the future.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

In other words, I never thought I'd have to quote it for posterity.

I know for a fact you have done this in the past when it was convenient for you to prove a point, no matter how trivial it may have been (pancake pics, anyone?). Nice escape attempt, though.

But clearly, since I'm dealing with a liar and teller of tall tales (dead babies, anyone?), I will know to do so in the future.

You're deflecting again. You can't even concede defeat without making some sort of ad hominem personal attack. *sighs and smh*

Anyway, back to the all male/co-ed issue....

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

I know for a fact you have done this in the past when it was convenient for you to prove a point, no matter how trivial it may have been (pancake pics, anyone?). Nice escape attempt, though.

You're deflecting again. You can't even concede defeat without making some sort of ad hominem personal attack. *sighs and smh*

Anyway, back to the all male/co-ed issue....

You are a liar. That is the point. The people reading this should not take anything you say to heart (whether they post or not) because your thoughts are irrelevant. They are not irrelevant because you are a proponent of all male chapters -- they are irrelevant because you lie.

You have not been to a national convention nor have you proven that you have. The burden isn't on me to prove that you have not.

The people who only frequent the APO forums probably don't know the depth of your lies, but that's okay -- now they do. If it looks like I'm personally attacking you -- fine. I'll be the bad guy so that people don't fool your posts for true knowledge or wisdom.

The people on this board who deserve respect are the ones who have earned it by the years and energy they've put into this fraternity -- and NEVER have they turned their back on it for a second. There are many, but I want to mention naraht, emb, and arvid by name.

You are a disloyal quitter, a homophobe, a chauvinist, a bigot, a liar, and an idiot.

I'll take the "unbrotherly" lump from anyone here who wishes to chastise me for being so. I'd rather be unbrotherly than be YOU.

[AndrewPiChi]

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Any news through the grapevine?

[KAPital PHINUst]

To the all-male chapters that attended Convention, I want to give you a big Congratulations for your small victory at Convention. The issue isn't over by a long shot, but it clearly demonstrates that tenacity is a virtue that can pay off in the long run.

Stay strong, hang in there, see you soon.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

To the all-male chapters that attended Convention, I want to give you a big Congratulations for your small victory at Convention. The issue isn't over by a long shot, but it clearly demonstrates that tenacity is a virtue that can pay off in the long run.

Stay strong, hang in there, see you soon.

For those of us who didn't attend convention, can we get a *tiny* bit of explanation?

Randy

[mastratton]

Originally Posted by naraht

For those of us who didn't attend convention, can we get a *tiny* bit of explanation?

Randy

Nothing has changed since the 2006 National Convention.

Here is the text off the committee's recommendation, though it was not an action item submitted to the convention for adoption (btw, I apologize for any errors - I retyped this pretty quickly.)

"After consulting with directors of regions with noncompliant chapters, but especially that of Region IV, V, and VII, it has come to our attention that the noncompliance of chapters previously identified as having resist transition efforts is not solely due to a desire to rebel against integration. For example, some chapters identified hve fallen victim to the "Two-Year Clock" rule, with a lack of female recruitment being a result of absence of any recruitment whatsoever. However, many chapters identified as being resistant to compliance are under administrative scrutiny from their respective sectional and regional chairs due to a lack of communication with the fraternity's representatives on a national level.

We have concluded that open membership in uncooperative chapters should not require further action at a national convention. A deadline was for compliance set at the 2006 National Convention and regional and sectional staff should maintain current enforcement efforts. Cooperative chapters countinue to work with regional and sectional staff, and noncompliant chapters are tending towards ceasing communication and dissociating from the national organization. Open lines of communication should be maintained between chapters and fraternity staff, and chapters should demonstrate good-faith efforts at complying with open membership. For thsoe chapters not communicating with the fraternity or not complying with established policies on open membership, standards that have been set for any breach with national bylaws should be applied and appropriate action should be taken."

In short, chapters that are attempting to make the good-faith, demonstrable effort (as required by the Board's 2006 resolution) should continue to make those efforts (and, I can assure you, this is what is happening in some of those chapters.)

Chapters which choose not to comply, and therefore do not make a good faith demonstrable effort, and which have not dissociated from Alpha Phi Omega, remain under the jurisdiction of Alpha Phi Omega, and will be treated as being non-compliant.

Nothing in the committee's recommendation has changed the status of how the Board is currently handling the question of open membership.

Fraternally,

Mark

[naraht]

As far as I know, the only changes to the list of all-male chapters from 2 years ago today is that Gamma Lambda at Clemson and Gamma Chi at Samford have gone co-ed and Sigma Xi at Maine-Orono is no longer active, right?

[mastratton]

Originally Posted by naraht

As far as I know, the only changes to the list of all-male chapters from 2 years ago today is that Gamma Lambda at Clemson and Gamma Chi at Samford have gone co-ed and Sigma Xi at Maine-Orono is no longer active, right?

I don't want to say that these are the only changes, but the status for each is correct (as best I know it.)

I know that other chapters are working towards transition, while the status for others is unknown.

Mark

[naraht]

Nu Mu chapter at University of Minnesota Duluth is apparently in the process of going co-ed but has not done so yet. See http://media.www.umdstatesman.com/me...-page2.shtml#4

Most of the article is on APO resigning from Greek Life, but it's status is mentioned.