Colonization at the University of Alabama?!?

[notmanhattan]

A Delta Gamma CDC (Collegiate Development Consultant) was visiting at our campus last week and affirmed the rumors the Alabama WILL be opening for colonization and the Delta Gamma is interested in recolonizing there.

Also from the mouth of the Greek Advisor on UGA's campus, DPhiE will be closing in May of this year and the campus will be opening for colonization as soon as 2008. Interesting...
Thoughts?

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by notmanhattan

A Delta Gamma CDC (Collegiate Development Consultant) was visiting at our campus last week and affirmed the rumors the Alabama WILL be opening for colonization and the Delta Gamma is interested in recolonizing there.

Also from the mouth of the Greek Advisor on UGA's campus, DPhiE will be closing in May of this year and the campus will be opening for colonization as soon as 2008. Interesting...
Thoughts?

Based on what I've heard about the super "Southern" schools it will be interesting to see how the new chapter of whoever colonizes will do since they haven't been there since the beginning of time like the other groups.

I'm sure overall they will be fine, but I feel like I've read lots of stories that girls are a lot less likely to go through recruitment with an open mind at schools like that and tend to prefer the chapters that have been there 324321354 years

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by notmanhattan

A Delta Gamma CDC (Collegiate Development Consultant) was visiting at our campus last week and affirmed the rumors the Alabama WILL be opening for colonization and the Delta Gamma is interested in recolonizing there.

Also from the mouth of the Greek Advisor on UGA's campus, DPhiE will be closing in May of this year and the campus will be opening for colonization as soon as 2008. Interesting...
Thoughts?

Yea DG trying to go to Alabama! I think that could work out nicely, and you may have more alums around than a lot of other groups. (I Mapquested to see how far Mississippi State was Tuscaloosa, and it's only 83 miles. Surely you'd get support from them as well as the Auburn and UGA groups and alums.)

(I'm not slighting any other groups: I don't even know who is already there and who would try to expand.)

The UGA thing is really interesting. I'm really sorry about D Phi E. I expected them to grow back strong. When I was at Georgia, DPhiE (on campus since 1935) and SDT (on campus since 1924) were both traditionally Jewish groups on the campus (although I'm think they both had non-Jewish members and other GLOs had Jewish members). DPhiE was actually the larger of the two groups then, although both were strong and well regarded, and I thought that given a little time, DPhiE would cycle back strong. It's a shame to lose them.

It's a weird time for expansion because especially with fraternities, there are more groups than houses. Apparently there's a relatively recent local law about where Greek housing can be constructed in town, not to mention the whole craziness with the fraternities on Lumpkin and where they will ultimately go. Unless a group could count on actually buying the DPhiE house, which would seem kind of unlikely, it's hard to see how a new group will be able to enter on equal footing with the rest.

[AnchorAlumna]

Originally Posted by notmanhattan

Also from the mouth of the Greek Advisor on UGA's campus, DPhiE will be closing in May of this year and the campus will be opening for colonization as soon as 2008. Interesting...
Thoughts?

You mean DPhiE at UGA, right? They pulled out of U of Alabama about 35 years ago. I'm very sorry to hear that. I believe they tried really hard to stay on at UGA.

[notyouraverage]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

Apparently there's a relatively recent local law about where Greek housing can be constructed in town, not to mention the whole craziness with the fraternities on Lumpkin and where they will ultimately go. Unless a group could count on actually buying the DPhiE house, which would seem kind of unlikely, it's hard to see how a new group will be able to enter on equal footing with the rest.

The new laws have less to do with where and more to do with how. They've made it very difficult for fraternities and sororities to build by enacting impossible parking requirements. A fraternity may have 150 members but only room in the house for 40. The city wants the parking lot to be big enough for all 150 members. No fraternity or sorority on campus currently lives up to that standard. In addition to that, they mostly just created more red tape for an organization trying to build. The organizations have more hoops to jump through when trying to get building plans approved - more forms to fill out, more signatures to get.

Really though, there are plenty of threads on this topic, and I didn't mean to hijack this one. My blood just boils every time I think about it.

I don't know what will happen to the DPhiE house. It's very different from other greek houses on campus, but I think it's stunning. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for its fate. And honestly, who will extend here? We've already got pretty much all the sororities that have strong southern reputations. Anyone have any thoughts on who could make it?

[BabyPiNK_FL]

well..coming from a school with a really big parking problem I can see the point. If you have meetings in the house but can't accomodate all the cars then you end up causing issues on the road ways, people walking from all over, etc. It might be more expensive, but in the end it would be easier for the group members. But only if they can afford to do so. A small parking garage might be effective if allowed...other than that, maybe a shuttle on meeting days?

[irishpipes]

To aid in your speculating...


Chapters chartered at the University of Alabama:
Kappa Delta 1904
Alpha Delta Pi 1907
Zeta Tau Alpha 1910
Delta Delta Delta 1914
Alpha Gamma Delta 1921
Chi Omega 1922
Delta Zeta 1922
Alpha Chi Omega 1924
Kappa Kappa Gamma 1927
Delta Phi Epsilon 1927-1973
Alpha Xi Delta 1927-1972 and 1981-1988
Phi Mu 1931
Alpha Phi 1932-1968
Sigma Kappa 1932-1995
Sigma Delta Tau 1935
Delta Gamma 1947-1978
Alpha Epsilon Phi 1948-1967
Pi Beta Phi 1949
Alpha Omicron Pi 1967
Kappa Alpha Theta 1967
Gamma Phi Beta 1988

At present, Bama does not have:
Alpha Epsilon Phi
Alpha Xi Delta
Alpha Sigma Alpha
Alpha Sigma Tau
Alpha Phi
Delta Gamma
Delta Phi Epsilon
Theta Phi Alpha
Sigma Kappa
Sigma Sigma Sigma
Phi Sigma Sigma

Chapters chartered at the University of Georgia:
Phi Mu 1921
Chi Omega 1922
Alpha Gamma Delta 1923
Kappa Delta 1924
Sigma Delta Tau 1924
Delta Delta Delta 1934
Alpha Omicron Pi 1935
Delta Phi Epsilon 1935
Kappa Alpha Theta 1937
Alpha Delta Pi 1938
Alpha Chi Omega 1938
Pi Beta Phi 1939
Kappa Kappa Gamma 1948
Zeta Tau Alpha 1949
Alpha Xi Delta 1960-1974
Delta Zeta 1961-? and 1987-present
Sigma Kappa 1964
Delta Gamma 1968
Gamma Phi Beta 1983

At present UGA does not have:
Alpha Epsilon Phi
Alpha Xi Delta
Alpha Sigma Alpha
Alpha Sigma Tau
Alpha Phi
Theta Phi Alpha
Sigma Sigma Sigma
Phi Sigma Sigma

[OleMissGlitter]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

Yea DG trying to go to Alabama! I think that could work out nicely, and you may have more alums around than a lot of other groups. (I Mapquested to see how far Mississippi State was Tuscaloosa, and it's only 83 miles. Surely you'd get support from them as well as the Auburn and UGA groups and alums.)

You also have your Alpha Psi chapter at Ole Miss which is only about 160 miles to Tuscaloosa that could help with a new colony.

[Titchou]

There are also DG chapters at UAB, Montevallo and Spring Hill....

[AnchorAlumna]

And Auburn!

[Buttonz]

I know our SDT chapter is fighting hard to stay alive. Why would htey add a new group with one struggling?

[AnchorAlumna]

All is speculation now. The numbers of women going through have increased, and quota last year was in the 70s. Panhellenic just raised total to 180. So I personally think it will be another year or two before the whole issue is considered.
As you may know, SDT did not participate in fall recruitment. They leased their house last year to Beta Theta Phi, which is building a new house. I do not know their status at the moment, but I would think if SDT were going to reoccupy their house, it would need a remodeling (especially after a fraternity lived there).

[Buttonz]

Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna

As you may know, SDT did not participate in fall recruitment. They leased their house last year to Beta Theta Phi, which is building a new house. I do not know their status at the moment, but I would think if SDT were going to reoccupy their house, it would need a remodeling (especially after a fraternity lived there).

I know about both the recruitment and the house issue. I don't know how many girls they picked up this year or how many will be returning this fall.

I really hope that the chapter can be saved.

BTW, isn't GPhiB also under total?

[squirrely girl]

Originally Posted by Buttonz

Why would htey add a new group with one struggling?

this question has been answered in a million different ways in other threads.

totally not being mean. just realistic.

[SkiingSister]

SG, please elaborate.

Why on earth if there are two chapters struggling would they open it up to another?

Again, what brainiac decided that was a great idea?