Really!?!?!?!

[SummerChild]

Right. That's odd...wearing other folk letters.

Originally Posted by kiml122

See, that is what I am saying

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Seriously, what is your point?

The girl looks insecure and lame for having that 'nalia on. You don't have to agree but that's that. LOL.

Yeah, I guess we'll have to agree that we don't see it exactly the same way. Would I wear a shirt like that. No because I am not going pay, on a khaki shirt, or any other kind of shirt, to put someone else's letters on my back. But she obviously wanted to to get a response from people and she has, that's all I'm saying.

I don't see it as her being insecure either. It is probably not the best use of judgement to diss other orgs, but like I've said, I seen worse from other greeks. And, who is to say that my sorhors did not check her for wearing the shirt. All we know is what is presented in the picture. We don't know what happend before or after the picture was taken.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by JocelynC

LOL. I mean really, it MIGHT get a rise out of a few people for a little bit, but at the end of the day, you just spent YOUR money on a jacket with 3 other sororities colors/letters on it and a wack TI quote.

I can understand your amazement to this. For you, you'd have to put 25 other groups on your back. I'd imagine the shirt would weigh a ton and cost about as much.

Sidenote: And don't NPHC's have some sort of official rules about what they can buy/have made with their letters on it?

I'm sure some do. Based on what I've seen in terms of the types of 'nalia people wear, I think the sororities are a bit more restrictive than the fraternities. But, like I said, that's just based on observation.

I can say that for us, the tone of the color is very critical. Not everyone (as in clothes designers and vendors) will make the same tone of rhoyal blue. One vendor's rhoyal blue is another's deep purple - depending on the light.

The issue of what is appropriate to wear is more of a concern for the undergrads, especially the neos (hence this thread). And, speaking from personal experience, no matter what you tell the ugs's to do and not do, a few will still want to be daring and try to get away with stuff. That is why for my region (SW) we are very strict on what can and can not be put on a line jacket. So much so, that if the ug is seen wearing an offending line jacket it can be removed from her person.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by JocelynC

Sidenote: And don't NPHC's have some sort of official rules about what they can buy/have made with their letters on it?

My sorority does.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Yeah, I guess we'll have to agree that we don't see it exactly the same way.

Cool.

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by JocelynC

I'm a lil late on this but:

I personally think the jacket is pretty lame. Like, isn't your jacket supposed to be about YOU and how proud you are of YOUR sorority? Alot of times when people make shirts to diss other orgs, the members of the other org barely bat an eyelash over it and the other person just feels dumb.

You have described how I feel about snotty and biaaachi bid day shirts along the lines of :

If you didn't get drafted you got shafted
Perfection by selection
If you're not wearing this shirt we didn't want you

I think it makes a group (in NPCville) look petty, catty, low class, and really insecure. I'm too busy with my awesome sisters and my organization to wish I could be wearing a tshirt that makes me look trifling. I feel very fortunate the local chapter avoids these types of shirts.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

You have described how I feel about snotty and biaaachi bid day shirts along the lines of :

If you didn't get drafted you got shafted
Perfection by selection
If you're not wearing this shirt we didn't want you

I think it makes a group (in NPCville) look petty, catty, low class, and really insecure. I'm too busy with my awesome sisters and my organization to wish I could be wearing a tshirt that makes me look trifling. I feel very fortunate the local chapter avoids these types of shirts.

Wow. I never thought about seeing the NPC in this aspect. Food for thought.

[sigmadiva]

Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc.
The GENESIS of All
Black Greek Sororities

This siggy was recopied from a GC member. Now, how is this any different? It's the same thing as the shirt, only in reverse. In the original siggy 'Black' is in red, 'Greek' is in blue and 'Sororities' is in gold. Following the argument presented by some in this thread, I guess I can assume she is insecure in her membership since she has the colors of the other orgs as part of her signature.

Am I suppose to be mad about this? (Which I'm not btw, just trying to make a point.) If anything, AKA was the gensis of DST, not SGR. So, in that respect, I feel that her statement is incorrect.

[jojapeach]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

The issue of what is appropriate to wear is more of a concern for the undergrads, especially the neos (hence this thread). And, speaking from personal experience, no matter what you tell the ugs's to do and not do, a few will still want to be daring and try to get away with stuff.

Exactly.

I arrived at the picnic at 3:30, and the soror and her shirt were in one piece when I arrived. I left around 6:45, and there was no drama. I cannot speak for other org members' responses because I heard nothing. If there were comments, they were probably made behind her back. And that's fine. There were well over 3,000 people there, and everyone was well represented. We were supposed to be there for a good time, not to start mess. Her shirt didn't promote greek unity, but it didn't stir up the drama at the picnic that this thread does.

No, I did not hem her up and snatch her stuff off. I spoke to her discreetly (that's my style), but she wanted to get away with her "bold" move. At the same time, I did not see or hear of sorors cheering her shirt and throwing the soror on their shoulders because we massively approved of the "message". Regardless of feelings, there were not any sorors present (her prophytes, LSs, etc.) who were going to demean Sigma by fighting amongst legitimate sorors in the middle of a Greek event. That's just not a part of Sigma.

DSTCHAOS summed it up already: We all have members in our organizations that do dumb, lame, and/or thoughtless things. I'm not excusing the soror's choice because that was a plain and simple diss, but I'm not going to act like she's the first Greek in existence to do something in poor taste. I'm also not going to call her insecure in her decision to be a Sigma just because of her shirt. (Her shirt looked like a normal Sigma shirt in the front.) Her shirt may reflect an unwise neophyte choice, but she made a rookie mistake, and she might understand her error down the line as she continues her path.

I think all of the Greeks were desensitized because the XYZs strolled and dissed the ABCs by throwing up the ABC handsign and then using "the finger" immediately after the handsign. The stroll did not include spending money or wearing other letters, but that was still disrespectful.

Consider this: If these actions (shirts, jackets, strolls, etc.) reflect our undergrad membership in 2006, just wait until 2011 and 2016 to see what our current HS students will add to our memberships.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by jojapeach

Exactly.

I arrived at the picnic at 3:30, and the soror and her shirt were in one piece when I arrived. I left around 6:45, and there was no drama. I cannot speak for other org members' responses because I heard nothing. If there were comments, they were probably made behind her back. And that's fine. There were well over 3,000 people there, and everyone was well represented. We were supposed to be there for a good time, not to start mess. Her shirt didn't promote greek unity, but it didn't stir up the drama at the picnic that this thread does.

No, I did not hem her up and snatch her stuff off. I spoke to her discreetly (that's my style), but she wanted to get away with her "bold" move. At the same time, I did not see or hear of sorors cheering her shirt and throwing the soror on their shoulders because we massively approved of the "message". Regardless of feelings, there were not any sorors present (her prophytes, LSs, etc.) who were going to demean Sigma by fighting amongst legitimate sorors in the middle of a Greek event. That's just not a part of Sigma.

DSTCHAOS summed it up already: We all have members in our organizations that do dumb, lame, and/or thoughtless things. I'm not excusing the soror's choice because that was a plain and simple diss, but I'm not going to act like she's the first Greek in existence to do something in poor taste. I'm also not going to call her insecure in her decision to be a Sigma just because of her shirt. (Her shirt looked like a normal Sigma shirt in the front.) Her shirt may reflect an unwise neophyte choice, but she made a rookie mistake, and she might understand her error down the line as she continues her path.

I think all of the Greeks were desensitized because the XYZs strolled and dissed the ABCs by throwing up the ABC handsign and then using "the finger" immediately after the handsign. The stroll did not include spending money or wearing other letters, but that was still disrespectful.

Consider this: If these actions (shirts, jackets, strolls, etc.) reflect our undergrad membership in 2006, just wait until 2011 and 2016 to see what our current HS students will add to our memberships.

Thank you!!! You summed up everything I've been trying to say.

Also thank you for giving your eye witness experience of the event. I think this thread 'went off' because people assumed something, and these very people were not at the picnic to really see what happend. Especially with the other groups.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc.
The GENESIS of All
Black Greek Sororities

This siggy was recopied from a GC member. Now, how is this any different? It's the same thing as the shirt, only in reverse. In the original siggy 'Black' is in red, 'Greek' is in blue and 'Sororities' is in gold. Following the argument presented by some in this thread, I guess I can assume she is insecure in her membership since she has the colors of the other orgs as part of her signature.

Am I suppose to be mad about this? (Which I'm not btw, just trying to make a point.) If anything, AKA was the gensis of DST, not SGR. So, in that respect, I feel that her statement is incorrect.

Give it a rest. LOL.

[DSTCHAOS]

And in the end, some of us still think ANYONE who wears such 'nalia symbolizes lameness and insecurity. Feel free to disagree but such is life.

[mccoyred]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc.
The GENESIS of All
Black Greek Sororities

This siggy was recopied from a GC member. Now, how is this any different? It's the same thing as the shirt, only in reverse. In the original siggy 'Black' is in red, 'Greek' is in blue and 'Sororities' is in gold. Following the argument presented by some in this thread, I guess I can assume she is insecure in her membership since she has the colors of the other orgs as part of her signature.

Am I suppose to be mad about this? (Which I'm not btw, just trying to make a point.) If anything, AKA was the gensis of DST, not SGR. So, in that respect, I feel that her statement is incorrect.

Yes, this siggy is technically incorrect but it is not in the same category as the shirt. The shirt and all other disses like that (the Zetas in the 'We look good in any color shirts', the AKA with the red jack, etc.) ARE lame and DO reflect insecurity and poor judgement.

[CountryGurl]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc.
The GENESIS of All
Black Greek Sororities

This siggy was recopied from a GC member. Now, how is this any different? It's the same thing as the shirt, only in reverse. In the original siggy 'Black' is in red, 'Greek' is in blue and 'Sororities' is in gold. Following the argument presented by some in this thread, I guess I can assume she is insecure in her membership since she has the colors of the other orgs as part of her signature.

Am I suppose to be mad about this? (Which I'm not btw, just trying to make a point.) If anything, AKA was the gensis of DST, not SGR. So, in that respect, I feel that her statement is incorrect.

Sigmadove 1st know that I am so far from insecure in my membership of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc., 2nd if you must know the signature comes from a chant that I like, and 3rd thanks for giving my siggy a shout out

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by CountryGurl

Sigmadove 1st know that I am so far from insecure in my membership of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc., 2nd if you must know the signature comes from a chant that I like, and 3rd thanks for giving my siggy a shout out

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