Entire Duke Lacrosse Team Suspended from Play - Page 5

Rudey · #61 04-01-2006, 02:19 AM

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Originally posted by KillarneyRose
You're not lucky; you're obviously very intelligent and you worked your a$$ off to get into and stay in medical school. Don't sell yourself short.

I think she's lucky.

-Rudey
--I think anyone that goes to school on an athletic or merit scholarship, earned it, hence the scholarship.

moe.ron · #62 04-01-2006, 09:18 AM

What a bunch of rapist pigs.

valkyrie · #63 04-01-2006, 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by kddani
If I had to guess I think it might be because the rest of the teammates that were there won't talk to the police about what happened. That's one thing I don't get... if you've got nothing to hide, why not fully cooperate? Even the attorney who is representing most of the players won't comment.

When you don't talk, not even through your attorney or to the police, it really looks suspcious. Maybe they have reasons, I don't know, but human nature makes it look bad on them.

Let me take a moment to provide a public service announcement to everybody on GC.

THE POLICE ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS. PROSECUTORS ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS.

Don't talk to the police. If I had $1 for every client who was told by some good-cop acting all buddy buddy "Oh hey, just tell me what happened and you can go home" I'd be able to bail their sorry asses out of the joint right now.

Any defense attorney worth a shit will tell his or her clients to STFU. Any defense attorney worth a shit isn't going to say anything to anybody unless it's going to get some good publicity for the client, which is unlikely in most cases.

I have never, ever in my life told a client to talk to the police. Never. It's not done (which, to get off topic for a second, is why Law and Order drives me batshit). Period. Clients don't talk to police, prosecutors, or the press unless you're Johnny Freaking Cochran. I know they're not all bad, but I've seen cops lie under oath in court. You never, ever know how anything you say will be used against you, and therefore it is best to not say anything.

Kevin · #64 04-01-2006, 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
Any defense attorney worth a shit will tell his or her clients to STFU. Any defense attorney worth a shit isn't going to say anything to anybody unless it's going to get some good publicity for the client, which is unlikely in most cases.

For the most part, that's true. There are exceptions that you didn't mention though. For example, if your client is a public figure and his or her reputation is important to their income, it's helpful to at least be cooperative with the media insofar as getting your client's side of the story as much air time/news print as the other side is getting.

A few months ago, my father represented a platinum-selling recording artist (from the 90's) in a child-custody related matter where he was accused of being a dead-beat dad. It was front page/lead story material (very damaging to him) until we had some brief conversations with the reporters assigned to the story after which, due to the fact that the ex-wife is a lying hoe-bag-she-devil, the story disappeared and our client has actually been getting a few gigs here and there since (I think the brief publicity may have actually helped).

At any rate, I do see some lawyers representing clients only to get face-time on TV and to see their names in print (see Gloria Allred). Such individuals should be censored in my opinion by their respective Bar associations.

mu_agd · #65 04-05-2006, 08:47 PM

The coach has resigned and the season has been cancelled.

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story...813162&ATT=230

Rudey · #66 04-06-2006, 11:14 AM

Why aren't the DNA results available yet?

Either charge these guys and deal with a problem or clear them and stop making a fuss.

-Rudey

Lil' Hannah · #67 04-06-2006, 11:16 AM

I believe they are expected to be ready this week...this week is almost over, so we'll see.

TristanDSP · #68 04-06-2006, 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
Let me take a moment to provide a public service announcement to everybody on GC.

THE POLICE ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS. PROSECUTORS ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS.

If you tell them "I'm not speaking without my lawyer", and don't say anything after that, do they have the right to keep you in the inter room (provided you haven't already been charged with anything) until your lawyer comes, or do you have the right to leave?

I know there's probably 100 different answers, but I've always wondered about those scenes in L&O where they're like "If you don't have anyting else for me, I'm not speaking unless my lawyers here, so you gonna charge me with anything or can I go?"

Rudey · #69 04-06-2006, 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by TristanDSP
If you tell them "I'm not speaking without my lawyer", and don't say anything after that, do they have the right to keep you in the inter room (provided you haven't already been charged with anything) until your lawyer comes, or do you have the right to leave?

I know there's probably 100 different answers, but I've always wondered about those scenes in L&O where they're like "If you don't have anyting else for me, I'm not speaking unless my lawyers here, so you gonna charge me with anything or can I go?"

LOL I think I saw on L&O that they can hold you for 24 hours without filing a charge?

-Rudey

wrigley · #70 04-06-2006, 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Why aren't the DNA results available yet?

Either charge these guys and deal with a problem or clear them and stop making a fuss.

-Rudey

Pretty much every state has a huge backlog of DNA samples that have yet to be analyzed because the state funds aren't there to process them. Some DNA samples sit on the shelves for at least two years.

In a unrelated case in Illinois in the death Riley Fox, her father's DNA sample was put in the state queue. This man sat in jail for at least 6 months to a year I think waiting for the results. It costs his family $250,000 out of their own pocket to have the sample analyzed quicker that the states schedule.

Should the lacrosse teams samples receive priority over other cases going on in the state?

Tom Earp · #71 04-06-2006, 07:02 PM

They are Gone along with Coach!

Maybe some truth?

dukedg · #72 04-06-2006, 07:20 PM

According to this article the DA told reporters he does not intend to publicly release the DNA evidence.

AKA_Monet · #73 04-07-2006, 07:34 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
An escort service? So she's a hooker?

-Rudey

Either way, if she's an exotic dancer or a prostitute--those boys outta be more concerned with the girl's pimp... 'Cuz ain't nobody slap a hoe around unless their name is "Daddy"...

Didn't you watch the Dave Chappelle Show?

Rudey · #74 04-07-2006, 07:41 PM

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Originally posted by AKA_Monet
Either way, if she's an exotic dancer or a prostitute--those boys outta be more concerned with the girl's pimp... 'Cuz ain't nobody slap a hoe around unless their name is "Daddy"...

Didn't you watch the Dave Chappelle Show?

You know what? I didn't even think of that.

Seriously those drivers or pimps or whatever are scary thick-necked folks. Were the heck is the dude in charge?

-Rudey

XOMichelle · #75 04-08-2006, 07:02 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
I think she's lucky.

-Rudey
--I think anyone that goes to school on an athletic or merit scholarship, earned it, hence the scholarship.

I know you think this is an insult, but I just see it differently. Yeah, I did work my butt off to get here, yeah I am working my butt off while I am here so I can be a great dr, but that doesn't mean I'm not lucky. I get the opporunity to have one of the best jobs on the planet (in my opinion!). I work of course, but that's part of the deal. It isn't "selling myself short" -- I worked for what I have, but it doesn't make me less privledged to have it.

Getting a scholarship, getting into a good program, earning awards -- all privledges. People than have a responsibility in return to use them well.