Pitbulls

[_Opi_]

Originally posted by KatieKate1244
I was attacked by a cocker spaniel two summers ago. It took a nice chunk out of my right leg. They're nasty dogs, and I know about three people who've gotten rid of them because they're so mean. That's probably sterotyping them, but the people who had the dogs raised them correctly.

I really don't support breed bans,but I throughly support leash laws.

Ouch. I would be down with the leash laws. However, I'm tired of seeing smaller women with a huge ass dog on a leash. If that dog wanted to attack anyone, what can they really do about it?

I have a neighbor who has this two fat dobermans (?s). He doesn't walk them. THEY walk him. Scary looking beasts, too. Everyone crosses the street when they see 'em.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by KillarneyRose
Funny I should see this now because about an hour ago I was talking to my sister and she told me how she got called down to the emergency department last night to operate on a woman who had half of her lip bitten off by her pet cocker spaniel. It was so grisly-looking, my sister said her first thought was "H--y S--t; someone call a doctor!" and then "Oh f--k, that's me!" (yes, we're potty mouths in my family)

Cocker spaniels; who knew???

OK that's gross. But if it was the rotweiller or pitbull, I bet the woman would be dead. And you know what? If a little dog attacked me I would kill it. I talked about this with my buddy. I would punch the crap out of that dog. I can walk upright and use all four limbs to inflict damage unlike that inferior species. When I was done beating it, I would tie it up and bite it. I would bite that dog just so he would understand that biting hurts.

-Rudey

[_Lisa_]

Originally posted by KillarneyRose
Funny I should see this now because about an hour ago I was talking to my sister and she told me how she got called down to the emergency department last night to operate on a woman who had half of her lip bitten off by her pet cocker spaniel. It was so grisly-looking, my sister said her first thought was "H--y S--t; someone call a doctor!" and then "Oh f--k, that's me!" (yes, we're potty mouths in my family)

Cocker spaniels; who knew???

My family owns a cocker spaniel & she is the meanest bitch you'll ever meet. She is definitely NOT safe to have around children.

Maybe if we didn't put bows in her hair:



In all seriousness, cocker spaniels have a tendency to snap fairly quickly. I'm more cautious of them since I grew up around one, but I'd still trust one more than a pit bull. Because I've seen my own dog get loose & run after neighborhood kids, strangers & other animals I definitely support leash & muzzle laws. But I can't justify supporting the extermination of an entire breed.

[PhoenixAzul]

The problem is enforcement of leash laws. Animals should be PROPERLY restrained when out of property, and while on property (Fence, or tether although some communities mandate fences for dogs, which is understandable). But who enforces? Police? Humane Society? ASPCA officers? Some places in Ireland have Dog Wardens, responsible for fouling fines (ALSO important!) and leash fines. In order for leash law to stick, it needs to be enforced, and unfortunately, it's not.

[pinkiebell1001]

I can't believe they'd want to ban them! I've seen some adorable pit bulls, that were just incredibly nice and sweet! I think if anything, they should finally enforce some of those leash laws! I have one of the sweetest dogs in the world, but I live in an apt., and when these kids are outside running around and startling him, or just being annoying (we had kids that were like screaming at him the other night!) he'll turn around and growl at them-not like a "Im going to attack you" type of growl, but a "hey watch it buddy!"-but he could turn on them, I mean, all dogs can!

Maybe they should create laws as to who can own these dogs(background checks, certified to breed, etc-and ACTUALLY ENFORCE THEM!), rather than banning them all!

[preciousjeni]

Originally posted by PiKA2001
They are not large dogs, but they have an enormous power-to-weight ratio. Their jaw strength is far greater than any other dog.
A Rottweiler will exert 800 pounds-per-square-inch jaw pressure and a Bull Terrier will exert 1200psi. A Pit Bull will exert more than 2000 psi.

Based on actual dog dissections and measurement of their skulls, the evidence demonstrated that pit bull jaw muscles and bone structure are the same as other similarly sized dogs. No evidence was presented to demonstrate that a pit bull's bite is any stronger than other dogs of its size and build. He stated that, contrary to information relied upon and perpetuated by earlier case law and law review articles, assertions that a pit bull can bite with a "force of 2,000 pounds per square inch" have absolutely no basis in fact or scientific proof. The testing of dog bite strength has never been done, and would be difficult if not impossible to perform.

http://www.badrap.org/rescue/Ohio_decision.pdf

[damasa]

Originally posted by kddani


But there are laws regarding people keeping other animals at pets- for instance, aren't ferrets illegal in some states? I'm not familiar with animal laws, so I could be wrong.

Most of these laws are stupid and outdated.

For instance, I think the only state that has a law against keeping ferrets is California. There might be one or two other states but there aren't many and I know Cali is one of them.

The reason: if too many ferrets are set loose in california, they might create havoc on the environment. You know what creates havoc on the california environment? Freaking squirrels. I've never seen so many squirrels as I have in norcal, they are freaking everywhere.

Ferrets are actually pretty smart animals. I have two, they are litter trained, I can walk them on a leash, they do tricks and a bunch of other cool stuff other stupid animals can't do. Oh, and they don't stink of you care for them properly.

[BobbyTheDon]

Originally posted by damasa


The reason: if too many ferrets are set loose in california, they might create havoc on the environment. You know what creates havoc on the california environment? Freaking squirrels. I've never seen so many squirrels as I have in norcal, they are freaking everywhere.

You know why? Because NoCal sucks and is too liberal. NoCal needs to call themselves southern oregon because they are making us look gay.

[texas*princess]

When I heard this story on the news, I immediately thought of this thread.

The puppy in the story was only 10 months old and reportedly (on the actual newscast) tortured because she wouldn't mate with another dog.




http://www.kdfwfox4.com/

MAN CHARGED WITH MERCY'S FATAL TORTURE

(DALLAS, April 27) -- A 21-year-old North Texas man was arrested and charged Wednesday night in the fatal torture of a 10-month-old dog name "Mercy."

Dallas police arrested Deshawn Brown at his mother's home in the Denton County town of Corinth. He faces multiple charges, including cruelty to an animal.

The pit bull mix puppy was found on Good Friday behind a Dallas apartment complex. Investigators said she'd been stabbed repeatedly and apparently doused with gasoline and set on fire. She suffered burns to 60 percent of her body.

Mercy died Sunday night.

Operation Kindness, the nonprofit organization that took care of Mercy until she died, will hold a public memorial in the dog's honor on Saturday at 10 a.m.

[PiKA2001]

BOSSIER CITY (AP) - Bossier City Police have booked the parents of a one-month old baby after the family's pit bull chewed off four of the baby's toes.

Detective say the parents, Mary Shannon Hansche and Christopher Wayne Hansche, were sleeping on a mattress and the baby was in a car-seat beside the mattress.

The parents woke up to the baby crying and took her to the hospital.

Both parents were booked with one count of intentional or criminal negligence.

The charge applies when a child under the age of 10 years is exposed to danger and they can't protect themselves.

The baby girl is in custody of the state and listed in stable condition.

[ufdale]

omg how horrible!! What a sad little baby!
I ride the bus to school. It goes through a pretty run down area and it hurts to see all the dogs (pitbulls too) chained in dirt backyards. Most of these dogs will lay in dirt their entire lives with no human affection. No wonder they turn out mean.

I read through this thread and I just had to laugh every time someone talked about mean chihuahuas. My chihuahua HATES little kids because my nasty little sister used to play too rough (she even broke my dog's legs once and my dog even bit through her lip once when she tried brushing the dog's teeth). As long as it's not a little kid trying to pick my dog up, my dog loves people.

[ufdale]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Detective say the parents were sleeping on a mattress and the baby was in a car-seat beside the mattress.

Wow who sleeps on a "mattress"? I sleep in a bed. Where was this baby's crib? It doesn't sound like the living conditions here were too great. The dog probably hadn't gotten fed in weeks either.

[Phimuteach]

I have a friend who works for a lab that processes results for vets on animals. She's told me that pit bulls have a tendency to develop a certain brain tumor. These brain tumors make them snap. A perfectly friendly pit bull could turn deadly because of the tumors.

[aggieAXO]

Originally Posted by Phimuteach

I have a friend who works for a lab that processes results for vets on animals. She's told me that pit bulls have a tendency to develop a certain brain tumor. These brain tumors make them snap. A perfectly friendly pit bull could turn deadly because of the tumors.

HMMM, I am a vet and have not heard of this. What kind of tumor? I have to say I treat a fair number of pits and tumors is not a common problem I see. That problem belongs to boxers and goldens.

[CUGreekgirl]

I have a friend who works for a lab that processes results for vets on animals. She's told me that pit bulls have a tendency to develop a certain brain tumor. These brain tumors make them snap. A perfectly friendly pit bull could turn deadly because of the tumors.

Totally myth.

http://www.realpitbull.com/myths.html


I have not ever heard of a pit bull attacking someone without there being some reason behind the attack. The large majority of pit bull who are in the media are ones that haven't been socialized well with humans or ones that have been taught to be mean. A great many of the dogs involved in attacks are not really pit bulls, but some other bully breed that look similar to the pit.

As a breed, Pit bulls are bred to be DOG aggressive not HUMAN aggressive.


I have seen the pit puppy article on a couple forums the past few days and pretty much everyone agrees that the parents had to be high on something. It would take awhile for a pup to chew off a baby's toes, and that baby probably screamed as soon as the pup started chewing. Why didn't the parents hear the baby? 6 wks is too early to take a puppy away from its litter. The dog probably was probably either trying to nurse then when he didn't get any milk, he started to chew, or he thought he was playing with one of his litter mates. Poor puppy and poor kid.