What I've Learned From Greek Chat

[Rudey]

People that have such soft ground beneath them don't jump up and down so hard. But you keep pushing it don't you? Well a guy that takes 12 years to finish college and has so many flaws might not realize how bad it is to do that.

This message was posted in the Lambda Chi Alpha forum a while back. The post was around March 2, 2005. You were pretty upset by it so unless you completely blacked out, it's strange that you forgot. Maybe you're lying though? Yeah actually you are. I provided the date and now I will provide the URL and who erased it for you as well.

Tom Earp and LXA Alum posted about how they were worried about non-brothers seeing this and removed the thread. This was the original URL of that thread before they erased it for you: http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showth...threadid=63612

You are nothing more than a violent criminal liar. Your brother details all the other ills of your character pretty well.

-Rudey
--Cashmoney also refuses to believe that people know he's a liar.

Originally posted by RACooper
I've been wondering too... so I've copied it and sent it to Hadley (they guy's name at the bottom) to ask him if and when he posted this - cause quite frankly it doesn't seem to be in keeping with any of the emails I've gotten from him nor has he ever mentioned anything like that to me... besides I don't think I've ever seen him mispell things in even a semi-formal letter.

As for the plethora of half-truths and twisted remarks ment to insult me... well that seems to be in keeping with another member of my chapter who I've had serious disagreements with in the past.

Oh as for a reply to some of the "facts" or accusations in it:
Stanley Cup list at my cottage - nope cousin's cottage (ironically after they learned it didn't float earlier in the week)
Dating Alanis Morrisette - nope, unless drunken making out at a house party counts as "dating" these days (anyways it was back around her YTV pop days)
Working for CSIS - yes, if by working you mean summer student intern sifting through newspapers... not a fun job at all.
Top-Secret military involvement? - don't know anything about this - I've always been pretty forthcoming with my time in the military.
Working at Queens Park - wonder about this one as I only did it for a week; 5AM paper readings, highlight articles on Ontario Coalition Against Poverty, hand highlighted material to minister's department.. then go home and sleep
75th Dinner - can't be Hadley on this; as he was the one (among many) saying I'd get burned by the Alumni when they were handing out credit... but hey if any proof is needed I still have all the orginizational crap leading up to the dinner (which I had been flogging at meetings for oh 2 years).
Decreased Recruitment - average recruitment: 8 members; year I was rush chair: 25 members... now if only rentention was that high.
33 year old man - well most can check my profile and see that's not true (not far off but not true)
Year 12 of 3 year degree - no part-time student for 5 years (1 or 2 credits a year as I worked), fulltime for last 2 years - oh and UofT doesn't have a 3 year degree.
Sigma Pi - yep almost joined them, but quit pledging after serious disagreement with another 2 pledges... doesn't matter still good friends with rest of pledge class and alumni.
Crank Calls from chapter - will not discuss as it has been handled.

I'll be sure to let everyone know what Hadley thinks of the message....

[PM_Mama00]

Originally posted by 33girl
Perhaps because you are a member of a historically black fraternity and speak with great passion on issues that concern historically black fraternities (more so than some people on here who are black)?

I don't know man, I'm just speculating.

i love u. could be the vicodin talking.

adpimel... its cuz ur so much better than me

p&c love u too


i wish i wouolda learnd that cosmetic surgeruy is a bitch and possibly not worth the pain and typing standing up.

ill respond to otyhers next week.

[honeychile]

Originally posted by PM_Mama00
i love u. could be the vicodin talking.

adpimel... its cuz ur so much better than me

p&c love u too


i wish i wouolda learnd that cosmetic surgeruy is a bitch and possibly not worth the pain and typing standing up.

ill respond to otyhers next week.

I'll have what she's having!!

[starang21]

Originally posted by PM_Mama00
i love u. could be the vicodin talking.

adpimel... its cuz ur so much better than me

p&c love u too


i wish i wouolda learnd that cosmetic surgeruy is a bitch and possibly not worth the pain and typing standing up.

ill respond to otyhers next week.

^^^ thinks racism is a greek issue.



does that make asian folks who join white organizations twinkies?

hmmm....

[KSigkid]

Originally posted by ADqtPiMel
Well, I grew up in a mostly white neighborhood, and you don't see me spouting off some of the stuff you say.

Honestly, same thing here. I grew up in a mostly white neighborhood, but I wouldn't say most of that stuff.

Originally posted by starang21
^^^ thinks racism is a greek issue.



does that make asian folks who join white organizations twinkies?

hmmm....

Sad to say, I've been called that more than once before.

[starang21]

Originally posted by OTW
Sad to say, I've been called that more than once before.

and what do you think it means?

Originally posted by starang21
and what do you think it means?

I've been called that by my own family, my mom's side, anyway. They think I'm a white person stuck in a yellow person's body.

I'm one of the few that was raised "American". I don't speak the language but I understand it.

Twinkie..banana..whatever. It has nothing to do with me being Greek.

[starang21]

Originally posted by OTW
I've been called that by my own family, my mom's side, anyway. They think I'm a white person stuck in a yellow person's body.

I'm one of the few that was raised "American". I don't speak the language but I understand it.

Twinkie..banana..whatever. It has nothing to do with me being Greek.

hell, i get that shit too. i understand the curse words. and that's only from my mom beating my ass and saying it at the same time.

i get the wannabe thing from white folks who nut up when i argue with them.

[ADqtPiMel]

Originally posted by PM_Mama00

adpimel... its cuz ur so much better than me

You said it, not me.

[AlphaFrog]

I'll reiterate and take into example this thread what I said in the ChitChat "What I've Learned from GC" Thread:

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
I've learned that 80% of all threads, no matter how serious and focused in the begining, eventually end up in name calling/spatting/back and forth chitchat (regardless of which forum it's in)

[PM_Mama00]

Originally posted by starang21
^^^ thinks racism is a greek issue.



does that make asian folks who join white organizations twinkies?

hmmm....

Actually, no I don't think it's a Greek issue. When it comes to GREEKCHAT.... notice GREEKchat.... yeah. Didn't know I was supposed to talk about everything else.

I don't even know what a twinkie is. I've never heard that term before. And I'm being 100% honest. The only time I've ever heard that to describe someone was a homosexual man and that was from a SPAM porno email. There are a LOT of terms that I've learned on GC that I've never heard in person before.

The closest racial issue I've ever seen on my campus was when we had our old UMall. The African American students (who I later learned were the basketball players and Alpha Phi Alpha brothers) were always in a room we called the fishbowl (because it was a separate room and all glassed in). That wasn't even an issue except the segregation. But that's how it was in there..... Greeks (IFC, NPC) had one part of the "carpet", you weren't welcome in the fishbowl unless you were hanging out with those who were already in there, and GDIs got everywhere else. No one had a problem with it. It wasn't that African Americans didn't converse with others... but from a Greek point of view, the African American Greeks didn't converse with us. Even when we tried to get them to participate in Greek Week or other activities, they either didnt show up or didn't want to. (I know Alpha Phi Alpha had something going on and when they did participate in one of our events, they were some really cool guys and we wanted them to hang out more).

Even on 9-11 there wasn't much of a difference of racial clashings. I couldn't believe it when I heard that one of our Muslim Arab Greeks had comments made to him at a gas station. So yes, I am sheltered. I duno how much else I can explain it.

honeychile.... I got about 30 vicodin left and some amoxicillin. lol I've been too chicken shit to take the vicodin.

[starang21]

Originally posted by PM_Mama00
Actually, no I don't think it's a Greek issue. When it comes to GREEKCHAT.... notice GREEKchat.... yeah. Didn't know I was supposed to talk about everything else.

I don't even know what a twinkie is. I've never heard that term before. And I'm being 100% honest. The only time I've ever heard that to describe someone was a homosexual man and that was from a SPAM porno email. There are a LOT of terms that I've learned on GC that I've never heard in person before.

The closest racial issue I've ever seen on my campus was when we had our old UMall. The African American students (who I later learned were the basketball players and Alpha Phi Alpha brothers) were always in a room we called the fishbowl (because it was a separate room and all glassed in). That wasn't even an issue except the segregation. But that's how it was in there..... Greeks (IFC, NPC) had one part of the "carpet", you weren't welcome in the fishbowl unless you were hanging out with those who were already in there, and GDIs got everywhere else. No one had a problem with it. It wasn't that African Americans didn't converse with others... but from a Greek point of view, the African American Greeks didn't converse with us. Even when we tried to get them to participate in Greek Week or other activities, they either didnt show up or didn't want to. (I know Alpha Phi Alpha had something going on and when they did participate in one of our events, they were some really cool guys and we wanted them to hang out more).

Even on 9-11 there wasn't much of a difference of racial clashings. I couldn't believe it when I heard that one of our Muslim Arab Greeks had comments made to him at a gas station. So yes, I am sheltered. I duno how much else I can explain it.

honeychile.... I got about 30 vicodin left and some amoxicillin. lol I've been too chicken shit to take the vicodin.

using your insipid logic, the fact that i'm a brother in a bglo, and i speak on issues regarding racism....that makes me a "wannabe". i suspect it's more the fact that you're not intelligent or exposed enough to actually debate, so that's your only foothold to a comment. but hey, i guess that's how a lot of people react on this site. gotta be one or the other. perpetual foreigner syndrome strikes again.

stop explaining, i don't care about your stories. either way, your using a pitiful excuse such as being sheltered to make ignorant comments. your attempt at a kumbaya post is lost. what a waste.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally posted by starang21
using your insipid logic, the fact that i'm a brother in a bglo, and i speak on issues regarding racism....that makes me a "wannabe". i suspect it's more the fact that you're not intelligent or exposed enough to actually debate, so that's your only foothold to a comment. but hey, i guess that's how a lot of people react on this site. gotta be one or the other. perpetual foreigner syndrome strikes again.

stop explaining, i don't care about your stories. either way, your using a pitiful excuse such as being sheltered to make ignorant comments. your attempt at a kumbaya post is lost. what a waste.

Instead of constantly calling people racist or ignorant or unintelligent, why don't you explain and try to teach instead of namecall? Maybe you'd get your point across better.

No, the fact that you're in a BGLO doesn't make you a wannabe. But the fact that in almost every racial thread you just start name-calling and make them all drama-filled. People could be having a decent discussion about something and someone can ask a question or think something that may be wrong, and you come bouncing in calling them ignorant or whatever. That's why I feel you're a wannabe.

And just because someone isn't exposed enough to something, doesn't make them unintelligent. I think you're pretty unintelligent for never discussing an issue but rather starting drama and name-calling. I wasn't attempting a kumbaya post. I'm tryin to explain to others why I feel the way I feel.

[starang21]

Originally posted by PM_Mama00
Instead of constantly calling people racist or ignorant or unintelligent, why don't you explain and try to teach instead of namecall? Maybe you'd get your point across better.

No, the fact that you're in a BGLO doesn't make you a wannabe. But the fact that in almost every racial thread you just start name-calling and make them all drama-filled. People could be having a decent discussion about something and someone can ask a question or think something that may be wrong, and you come bouncing in calling them ignorant or whatever. That's why I feel you're a wannabe.

And just because someone isn't exposed enough to something, doesn't make them unintelligent. I think you're pretty unintelligent for never discussing an issue but rather starting drama and name-calling. I wasn't attempting a kumbaya post. I'm tryin to explain to others why I feel the way I feel.

because you're grown already.

they're drama filled prior to me ever getting into them. it's not my fault that when i tell someone they're foolish that it applies. you don't like it, don't do it.

what am i a wanna be of? because i call it like i see it? it's theories such as this that are proof positive of your ignorance.

like i said, stop excusing your sheltered upbringing for extreme stupidity. plenty of people have grown us closed off from the world, but they still are smart enough to know bigotry when they see it.