advise needed . . .

[FRATMOSPHERE]

Originally posted by sdbeta1
why was Beta singled out as being gay, as opposed to other fraternities? does one single chapter create a reputation for 166 years of tradition? the truth is that in at least one point in time each fraternity has had a gay man. the issue of homosexuality is a prevalent topic, which needs to be adressed. and that is the reason as to why having somebody that is gay isn't a detriment. one will be much better off in the long run. but if you are only interested in scoring chicks, then how could a "token gay guy" hurt? the amount of lady friends they have is insane, plus they aren't offering any competition.

Have I not clearly outlined the effects that having a gay guy would entail? Are all of you guys from the north or what?

[ECUJacob]

The term "Greek Letter Organization" (GLO) is often used because it encompasses ALL organizations including social, honor, service, etc.

You've actually been asked twice what group you belong to, and both times you refused to answer.

We have a few gay brothers in our chapter, and I know for a fact that other fraternities on our campus do too. I don't see any difference in our social calendars because of it.

I'm sure you can find entertainmentin Sig Ep's message board, so I'll say this again:

If you dislike Beta so much, feel free to stop posting in our message board.

[sdbeta1]

Originally posted by FRATMOSPHERE
I'm a SigEp. Ask anything you want.

im sorry

[FRATMOSPHERE]

ECUJacob, do SigEp, KA, or Lambda Chi have any gay brothers?

[sigepsucks1901]

that I am not a Beta and I am obvisouly not a Sig Ape. I do find it funny how this asshole is quick to jump all over Beta, when he clearly has the same issues that he just chooses to deny.

HFF = Holly Friendship Forever
VDBL = Virtue, Dilegence, Brotherly, Love

They complain to you guys about how 'gay' you are, when they are clearly the gayest frat out there. When their ritual states that their initiates must take off their shirts, so they can paint a Sigma, a Phi and an Epsilon across their chests - now that is gay.

[FRATMOSPHERE]

Are you fucking serious? Do you think I'm from a Balanced Man chapter?

[sigepsucks1901]

What does you being (or not being) in a Balanced Man Chapter have anything to do with anything?

Thing is, you like to pick on people, now payback's a bitch.

Sig Ep sucks. Founded in 1901 - recruits everyone and their mother - biggest fraternity?? Yep - because they have NO standards.

[ECUJacob]

ECUJacob, do SigEp, KA, or Lambda Chi have any gay brothers?

both SigEp and Lambda Chi both have at least one person, that I know of, who is gay. I'm not sure about KA because they tend to keep to themselves.

[sigepsucks1901]

So I was doing some math last night while bringing in the new year. Beta has about 175,000 total members, or so their website says. Sig Ape has 255,000, or so their website says. Let's pretend that 5% of Americans/Canadians are gay. That means about 8,750 Beta's are/were gay. That also means that 12,750 Sig Apes are/were gay. (you can do the math for any frat if you want to).

I think it's safe to assume that Sig Ape is probably the gayest of them all. I heard they're 'colon'izing at San Francisco State - coincidence? I think not.

[a.e.B.O.T.]

Ok, there is really no need for all this fraternity bashing, and if your going to bash a specific fraternity, go do it on their threads, give them a chance to fight back.

This thread is going no where, and no one is changing anyones minds. Everyone is just getting more and more fired up. So, lets just move on. Some people think Betas are gay, some dont. All that we can prove is that Beta has gay men and straight men. If you dont like that, well its not your fraternity, but i can tell you one thing, and say it with absolute truth, Im DAMN proud to be a Beta!

[FRATMOSPHERE]

Originally posted by sigepsucks1901
So I was doing some math last night while bringing in the new year. Beta has about 175,000 total members, or so their website says. Sig Ape has 255,000, or so their website says. Let's pretend that 5% of Americans/Canadians are gay. That means about 8,750 Beta's are/were gay. That also means that 12,750 Sig Apes are/were gay. (you can do the math for any frat if you want to).

I think it's safe to assume that Sig Ape is probably the gayest of them all. I heard they're 'colon'izing at San Francisco State - coincidence? I think not.

Nationally, my fraternity probably is the gayest thing on the planet. However, locally we are good. I don't care about other SigEps. They don't matter to me. The only SigEps that matter to me are those in my chapter. Any singlular chapter, regardless of the fraternity, that takes gays is terrible. I'm done.

[a.e.B.O.T.]

Originally posted by FRATMOSPHERE
Nationally, my fraternity probably is the gayest thing on the planet. However, locally we are good. I don't care about other SigEps. They don't matter to me. The only SigEps that matter to me are those in my chapter. Any singlular chapter, regardless of the fraternity, that takes gays is terrible. I'm done.

so you are saying that you are part of a chapter of a fraternity, but not apart of a fraternity?

[sigepsucks1901]

I think Fratmosphere's post pretty much summed it up - we don't need to discuss anymore - he just hung himself.

[FRATMOSPHERE]

Originally posted by a.e.B.O.T.
so you are saying that you are part of a chapter of a fraternity, but not apart of a fraternity?

I am in the same fraternity as those in other chapters but they matter nothing to me. I didn't join them; I joined my chapter. If a fag from another chapter came to our house, we'd kick him out. If he was cool, we'd let him stay.

[Betarulz!]

Originally posted by FRATMOSPHERE
I am in the same fraternity as those in other chapters but they matter nothing to me. I didn't join them; I joined my chapter. If a fag from another chapter came to our house, we'd kick him out. If he was cool, we'd let him stay.

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