Minority members of IFC and Panhellenic

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by Taualumna
Perhaps your area isn't very diverse?

Incorrect.

I have seen this in 3 different states where there are high concentrations of minorities, particularly in low economic areas.

[ladygreek]

Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
I have.

"Ethnic foods" and "ethnic haircare."

Ditto. I've seen it here in Minnesota.

[ladygreek]

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Well, You can argue for any side of the coin you want to!

Many times Your points are not well taken as there is no points to be taken.

So speak your peice and let GCers see what You are all about. Sad, too sad to say it leaves a lot to be desired.

Speak Your venom and people will see what you seem to attemt to be.

I and others are not really sure what that is?

Oh, I have My Iron Jockey Shorts on to see the Tripe You will next propose.

What is wrong with being posotive? Not Your Style?

Tom, Chaos was basically agreeing with you (or you with she .)

[ladygreek]

Originally posted by Taualumna
Of course, if you REALLY want to get a good selection, you go to a supermarket that specializes in Asian foods. There are a few that are actually just as big as a mainstream store and just as clean.

[L.O.C.K.]

Hahahaha, I get asked that question all the time, except the other way around since I'm white and in an Asian Fraternity.

[sigtau305]

Originally posted by Phasad1913
An example of what I was getting at through my question is this:

I was in CVS pharmacy the other day and I was looking for hair products. I looked up at the aisle signs and the listing was "Ethnic" for the black hair care products. That sparked my curiosity. Why was the aisle titled Ethnic for that? Also, this doesnt square too well with the dictionary or text book definitions that Rudey posted.

Interesting. I never paid attention to the aisle signs at the CVS store near my house.

[Lady Pi Phi]

Originally posted by ladygreek

I'm not sure what you mean by this? Taualumna was stating a fact of life in Toronto.

[AGDee]

I think ktsnake said it best in the following thread in the chapter operations forum:


Programs thread in Chapter Operations

HWGLO's are not, in my opinion organizations created for the betterment of a community. They are for the betterment of the individuals. For example, we do philanthropies to help our members to understand the value of giving back to the community, not necessarily for the value of the act itself.

For Alpha Gamma Delta, specifically, our focus is entirely on betterment of the individual, rather than betterment of the community. If there is a culture to be attached, it would be a Christian culture, although there isn't a requirement (or expectation)to be Christian either. Our international philanthropy is diabetes, which affects all cultures. Our local chapters do local community projects so it would depend on the culture around them on whether they'd be helping any specific culture. What culture it will help just isn't part of that decision making process.

Some of the other side bars here, about signs in grocery stores, etc. are going to vary so much by state/city/location. Personally, I've not seen a grocery aisle say "ethnic" in years. They are either specific (Italian, Chinese, Japanese, Mexican, etc) or say "International foods". (But I moved to an area where it's next to impossible to find fresh ricotta cheese because the Italian culture isn't strong here).

[BetteDavisEyes]

I used to get asked this all the time. I ignored ignorant people like this b/c nowhere on the SK creed & bylaws does it say "white women only." Seriously, people are morons.
I was once called a race traitor for not joining a Latina sorority but I did not feel comfortable there.

[Tom Earp]

I just wonder, when will people start getting over Historically anything.

It was, It is not now.

As can be seen, there are members from all races and relegions who have joined different organizations.

Now, the question is why?

Maybe, just maybe, they felt comfortable with the GLOs they joined. Not because They were expected to.

The name of the GLO and Racial structure is not the question, but the Members that They have felt at ease with.

[preciousjeni]

Originally posted by Tom Earp
I just wonder, when will people start getting over Historically anything.

It was, It is not now.

As can be seen, there are members from all races and relegions who have joined different organizations.

Now, the question is why?

Maybe, just maybe, they felt comfortable with the GLOs they joined. Not because They were expected to.

The name of the GLO and Racial structure is not the question, but the Members that They have felt at ease with.

I'm afraid "historically" and "predominantly" sometimes go hand-in-hand.

[Tom Earp]

Semantics it might be, but the truth will still will out!

So, and your point is?

Am I and so many people be wrong?

[epchick]

Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
So, this fact alone trumps what other people have to say about this issue.

The only difference between what I'm saying and what others are saying is "implicit" versus "explicit."

Exactly!!!

What I don't think is that people are grasping the full idea of a "cultural organization." Sure, when you first hear or see those words you think (just as I do) of a group of people, who are predominantly the same race, coming together to celebrate that race. Just like my dance group, which is ballet folklorico (or mexican folk dancing) would be considered a "cultural organization." But that is where it all stops....it doesn't seem like a lot of people can get past the fact that a sorority IS a cultural organization.

But from what I've read on this thread most people are saying something to the effect of "oh a black or hispanic sorority would be a cultural organization, but not a "white" sorority." But you all have not explained why a "white" sorority would not be considered "cultural." Like I stated before, EVERYONE has a culture....EVERYONE! So that means that every single "white" person has a heritage, a culture. So when 30-40 girls come together, especially if they are predominantly the same race, they in effect become a sort of "cultural organization."

Just because your sorority does not EXPLICIT state that you are to "help the white community" (or something to that effect) doesn't exempt you. Just because your philanthropy doesn't encompass a certain race, doesn't mean jack.

A "white" person is not different from a "black" person or from a "hispanic" person. Like I've said numerous times, they all have a culture that they come from. So with that being said, you CAN NOT say that a "white sorority" is different than a "black" or "hispanic" sorority, but the latter are "cultural organizations" and the white sorority isn't.

that is why I said Tri Delta COULD be construed as a "cultural organization" just for the fact that "white" people are not excluded from having a culture

So yeah..sorry i know i sounded redundant...but oh well.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by preciousjeni
I'm afraid "historically" and "predominantly" sometimes go hand-in-hand.

How so?

BGLOs enjoy white laws, are in white USA, recruit at white schools, and follow the establishment of GLOs that were all white.

And I guess when a "white" GLO has a charity that raises money for a health condition that affects black people more, they are still only serving the "white" community huh?

-Rudey

[preciousjeni]

Tom, you said

Originally posted by Tom Earp
I just wonder, when will people start getting over Historically anything.

For many people, it is difficult to understand why it isn't right to call predominantly [fill in the blank] organizations "Historically anything."

Personally, I just can't see why "historically caucasian/Euro-American" is negative or incorrect when it is true?