Please, A Kappa Viewpoint?, A BGLO Viewpoint?

[Senusret I]

Originally posted by Conqueror
Oh my God, the chile dun gone MADD! You are crossing a very thin line, here. It is one thing to love your fraternity, but to talk about the founders of someone else's fraternity's makes you suspect. Certainly, had you done any type of pledging you would have known this was a big NO! NO! People that pledge know how dear other organization's reverance their founders. You have been brainwashed and hoodwinked about your organization. It has done nothing, that wasn't already done. As a matter of fact, your founders got the concept of Fraternity from Howard U. Read and learn your own history. You must not of known that two of your founders that were the precursors transferred from Howard to Indiana in 1910.

Don't think that they didn't get the concept of Fraternity from Howard, b/c in 1910 Alpha Phi Alpha was already at Howard, and Omega Psi Phi was in the formation stage. Alpha Kappa Alpha had already been formed, as well.

You know nothing about the founders of Alpha Phi Alpha - who were all family men and respected in their chosen professions. So to say that they defied what true men are is open ended ignorant statement that you need to explain.

Please don't assert that they were in anyway homosexual or something like that. Kappa Alpha Psi is the last fraternity that should ever talk about homosexuality.
You are foolish. READ LEARN COMPREHEND.

And welcome to GreekChat!

[K.O.T.S]

Originally posted by Conqueror
You have been brainwashed and hoodwinked about your organization. It has done nothing, that wasn't already done. As a matter of fact, your founders got the concept of Fraternity from Howard U. Read and learn your own history. You must not of known that two of your founders that were the precursors transferred from Howard to Indiana in 1910.

Don't think that they didn't get the concept of Fraternity from Howard, b/c in 1910 Alpha Phi Alpha was already at Howard, and Omega Psi Phi was in the formation stage. Alpha Kappa Alpha had already been formed, as well.

You know nothing about the founders of Alpha Phi Alpha - who were all family men and respected in their chosen professions. So to say that they defied what true men are is open ended ignorant statement that you need to explain.




Please don't assert that they were in anyway homosexual or something like that. Kappa Alpha Psi is the last fraternity that should ever talk about homosexuality.
You are foolish. READ LEARN COMPREHEND.

its funny. these BGLOs were founded to help the Black community and build unity. but as soon as the opportunity comes, someone that is only a few years to decade in greek life is waiting to put down another BGLO with references to 98, 96, or even 94 years ago like they were there with the founders. it is disrepectful to come this board of KAPPA ALPHA PSI and disrepect it because one man said something you disagree with. i dont know the seven jewels, twenty pearls, or other founders for that matter. so i can only make my judgement by their legacies (the current members). Would your founders agree with how you are representing yourself and treating the cherished organizations of others?

[ladygreek]

Originally posted by K.O.T.S
its funny. these BGLOs were founded to help the Black community and build unity. but as soon as the opportunity comes, someone that is only a few years to decade in greek life is waiting to put down another BGLO with references to 98, 96, or even 94 years ago like they were there with the founders. it is disrepectful to come this board of KAPPA ALPHA PSI and disrepect it because one man said something you disagree with. i dont know the seven jewels, twenty pearls, or other founders for that matter. so i can only make my judgement by their legacies (the current members). Would your founders agree with how you are representing yourself and treating the cherished organizations of others?

Did you read what your frat said about the other BGLOs???? I think all of our Founders would be glad that we are defending them and their wisdom in founding our organizations.

[K.O.T.S]

yes i read them. but he is one man not KAPsi. i do not condone it although he may or may not have good cause. what i am saying is that to comeback direspecting my organization as a result of it is not the most mature way to handle the situation. it is like someone talking about all blacks and their ancestors b/c one black person said "i don't like (insert culture) food"

i am also speaking in general b/c i still very much hear and see reactions like this today.

[Conqueror]

Originally posted by ladygreek
Did you read what your frat said about the other BGLOs???? I think all of our Founders would be glad that we are defending them and their wisdom in founding our organizations.

I understand your frustration and did not mean to offend you or anyone else in Kappa Alpha Psi.

However, I did want to educate him (MadeNupe) on his own history, especially since it seemed that he was lacking.

What is disappointing to me, is that it took for the "others" to get on here and talk sense into MadeNupe's head. You saw his posts, as a brother you should have corrected him on his ignorance and arrogance before we did. I mean you have to admit he went way too far when he talked about the other organization's, and I heard nothing from you, and then when he is chastised and educated and told the truth - you feel disrespected. What about my post was disrespectful?

Why did you let him represent your fraternity in the manner he did, without saying anything to him?
Just Curios!
It was actually all factual information.

[Conqueror]

I am sorry, the above statement was meant for K.O.T.S

[K.O.T.S]

i had posted earlier. i choose not to get into random conflict.
yes i did not say anything when madenupe made those commments but at the same time did your frat step in about yours?

your comments on homosexuality toward my organization was offensive. i have met gays from many other GLOs.so dont pin homosexuality on us.

"it was true"- i guess your the alpha that was around in 1910. i know what we were taught and i know what you all were taught. is it that significant in your organization that it defines who you are?

i constantly hear and read that "yall need to respect your roots" and "where are we (alphas) in their (other NPHC frats) history." there were at least nine other well established fraternities on the campus of Cornell in 1905. are we to learn about them as well?

you are not obligated to be on this thread, this board, or greek chat. you chose your organization for your own personal reasons. use this as another one to confirm you decision was right and move on.

[ladygreek]

Circular argument. KOTS do you get that your frat FIRST did exactly what you are chastising Conqueror for. Even worse he offended more than one org. And he implied that "the Alphas for the most part" were homosexual to which Conqueror was merely responding. So maybe you could be the mature one and apologize to the rest of us on behalf of your frat instead of backhandedly defending him.

[ladygreek]

Originally posted by Conqueror
I am sorry, the above statement was meant for K.O.T.S

I know .

[K.O.T.S]

Originally posted by ladygreek
Circular argument. KOTS do you get that your frat FIRST did exactly what you are chastising Conqueror for. Even worse he offended more than one org. And he implied that "the Alphas for the most part" were homosexual to which Conqueror was merely responding. So maybe you could be the mature one and apologize to the rest of us on behalf of your frat instead of backhandedly defending him.

ladygreek. you're right. a lot were insulted and put in a situation in which they had to become defensive. i was getting after conqueror for attacking "us" because of "one".
Madenupe said "Majority, if not all of A PHI A's founders defied what true men are". that is open for weak, untrustworthy, etc
a person can take any negative connotation from that not just homosexual.
i have relatives and pastors that are AKAs, Sigmas, Alphas etc. so i see beyond that. but it becomes diificult to do when some members try to insult or provoke. we are not taught to hate other GLOs or even speak negatively upon them. so i apologize on my frats behalf as far as him representing KAPPA. but he is also his own man as i am mine so i can not fully speak on his behalf.

conqueror. we have a bigger purpose than some petty thread. i am sure that if you have been greek for longer than month you have been through worse than this. so whatever problem there is right now it is over on my side.

[ladygreek]

Thank you K.O.T.S. Now that is true maturity folx.

[Conqueror]

Originally posted by K.O.T.S

conqueror. we have a bigger purpose than some petty thread. i am sure that if you have been greek for longer than month you have been through worse than this. so whatever problem there is right now it is over on my side.

Agreed! Again, I really didn't mean to get you upset by my post. All I said to MadeNupe in reference to his Alpha founder post, was that "if" he was talking about homosexuality (I specified "if" in my original post just in case), then he will be truly heartbroken to know how many of the NPHC members in my and his fraternity are homosexuals. He might not have been talking about it, but he did say the founders defied manhood. I didn't say that to say that all Kappas are gay. I was just saying if his reason for not joining Alpha had to do with it, then he is in for a sad awakening -and needed to be educated on that fact.

The other remarks were not made to throw up in anybody's face who was first or who started what. But it was to educate MadeNupe on the fact that although his fraternity was started in the midwest, it did so with the influence of the greeks at Howard -being that the his two founders that had the ideal of fraternity had just recently transferred from Howard. Educational, not meant to be offensive. I wanted to wake him up out of his fantasy world, that's all - not to offend you are members of your esteemed organization.

Again, I appreciate you finally putting a disclaimer on MadeNupe's remarks, because as the old adage goes, "silence equates consent." Meaning if you don't say anthing about it, then we just might assume you agreed with it. Like a mother letting her child curse at an adult, not saying anything to the child. The first thing that would be said, is why did you let your child curse me out. Silence equals consent, unfortunately that is what we believe in our society.

Peace be with you my brother!

[SKEEphistAKAte]

Nothing to add, just hoped the right people would read my signature.

[Atlas]

Originally posted by SKEEphistAKAte
Nothing to add, just hoped the right people would read my signature.

LOL!

[Conqueror]

Originally posted by SKEEphistAKAte
Nothing to add, just hoped the right people would read my signature.

Interesting View. I for one think that the internet is another forum for communicating and talking with others. It is a mode of communication.

Heck, I think arguing in general is stupid, that's why we were just discussin opinons.

Here's one for you though.

Now in regards to you thinking its retarded to debate and discuss on cyberspace - here's one for you - "opinions are like assholes, everybody got one."