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07-16-2004, 04:13 PM
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Originally posted by thermobryan
From my understanding the highest average chapter size goes:
1. Sigma Phi Epsilon
2. Pi Kappa Alpha
3. Sigma Alpha Epsilon
4. Kappa Sigma
5. Alpha Tau Omega
That's just from my knowledge...
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I refuse to believe Sigma Chi isn't in the top THREE. I don't think I've ever heard of a weak Sig Chi chapter
Or TKE
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07-16-2004, 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by TSteven
I agree that the statistics listed may not be current thus the disclaimer. The FEA site is the only Greek supported site that I know of that list statistics.
My suggestion would be to address your concerns to either FEA or to your HQ.
Fraternity Executives Association
2003 - 2004 Officers & Directors
President - Tom Helmbock, Lambda Chi Alpha
President Elect- Deb Ensor, Zeta Tau Alpha
Secretary - Cynthia Menges - Delta Zeta
Treasurer - Melanie McMillan-Schild, Kappa Delta
Director - Bonnie Wunsch, Alpha Epsilon Phi
Director - Robert Biggs, Phi Delta Theta
Director - Mark Anderson, Sigma Chi
Immediate Past President- David Westol, Theta Chi
Editor News & Notes - Sidney N. Dunn, Alpha Epsilon Pi
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Funny, we have an officer on the board and that information is still old. I have a feeling it's not really too strong of an association and wonder what it is they do.
-Rudey
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07-16-2004, 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by OleMissGlitter
From the AOII website:
Alpha Omicron Pi has chartered 178 collegiate chapters, and over 320 alumnae chapters located throughout the United States and Canada since its founding in 1897. AOII's membership exceeds 125,000 strong, successful and caring women.
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The question on the table is how many active (open) colliegiate chapters does each group have.
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07-16-2004, 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by NutBrnHair
The question on the table is how many active (open) colliegiate chapters does each group have.
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I'm counting that right now and I emailed my friend at HQ. I was mostly referring to the fact that we have over 100,000 members
PS: My cousin just proposed to his girlfriend, who is a Chi Omega, this past weekend...
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07-16-2004, 04:40 PM
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As a comparison, here are stats from our fellow Greek Chat member Ariesrising's Greek Info Pages web site.
http://www3.telus.net/ariesrising/
Sororities with 100 plus chapters
176 Chi Omega
165 Delta Zeta
143 Alpha Phi
143 Delta Gamma
143 Zeta Tau Alpha
135 Delta Delta Delta
134 Pi Beta Phi
133 Alpha Chi Omega
133 Alpha Delta Pi
130 Kappa Kappa Gamma
124 Kappa Delta
124 Kappa Alpha Theta
123 Phi Mu
114 Alpha Gamma Delta
114 Gamma Phi Beta
113 Alpha Sigma Tau
112 Alpha Omicron Pi
112 Alpha Xi Delta
113 Phi Sigma Sigma
113 Sigma Kappa
107 Sigma Sigma Sigma
Sororities with 100,000 plus initiates
225,000 Chi Omega
220,000 Zeta Tau Alpha
210,000 Delta Delta Delta
205,000 Pi Beta Phi
191,000 Kappa Alpha Theta
190,000 Delta Gamma
186,000 Kappa Kappa Gamma
183,000 Alpha Delta Pi
177,501 Kappa Delta
162,929 Alpha Chi Omega
137,813 Delta Zeta
136,000 Alpha Gamma Delta
131,825 Phi Mu
129,439 Alpha Phi
125,000 Alpha Omicron Pi
120,000 Alpha Xi Delta
117,290 Sigma Kappa
103,688 Gamma Phi Beta
103,688 Sigma Sigma Sigma
Fraternities with 100 plus chapters
364 Lambda Chi Alpha
300 Tau Kappa Epsilon
258 Sigma Phi Epsilon
245 Kappa Sigma
228 Sigma Chi
210 Sigma Nu
208 Sigma Alpha Epsilon
192 Pi Kappa Alpha
175 Phi Delta Theta
157 Alpha Tau Omega
147 Theta Chi
129 Pi Kappa Phi
128 Phi Gamma Delta
126 Beta Theta Pi
126 Kappa Alpha Order
123 Sigma Pi
117 Delta Chi
110 Delta Sigma Phi
Fraternities with 100,000 plus initiates
262,000 Sigma Alpha Epsilon
240,000 Sigma Phi Epsilon
238,000 Sigma Chi
235,000 Lambda Chi Alpha
208,600 Tau Kappa Epsilon
201,000 Phi Delta Theta
200,000 Kappa Sigma
195,963 Sigma Nu
180,000 Pi Kappa Alpha
170,500 Alpha Tau Omega
167,500 Beta Theta Pi
140,997 Theta Chi
139,700 Phi Gamma Delta
118,097 Zeta Beta Tau
115,000 Kappa Alpha Order
110,000 Delta Upsilon
110,000 Phi Sigma Kappa
105,000 Delta Sigma Phi
102,000 Phi Kappa Psi
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07-16-2004, 04:44 PM
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Thanks TSteven...that is a great website by the way...
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07-16-2004, 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by OleMissGlitter
Thanks TSteven...that is a great website by the way...
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Not only is Ariesrising's more likely to up to date but all around better.
But remember y'all, the information on these sites are only as good as the information they are given. As are all the GLO's sites.
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07-16-2004, 04:57 PM
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I can do a lot of things with numbers and statistics and can create all sorts of financial models and regressions, but the most basic thing of all that you learn is the numbers have to be right. These numbers just aren't right.
I am of the belief that there simply are no numbers for fraternities and sororities. What I mean by that is that numbers are not verifiable at the least and often old and outdated even so. If I am wrong on that I'd like to see the numbers from NIC - not just on sizes but endowments et al.
-Rudey
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07-16-2004, 05:00 PM
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Originally posted by Senusret I
The APhiA website says that we have over 175,000 Brothers.
116 are in my alumni chapter.
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We have 100,000+ Sorors. 800+ chapters.
I believe all NPHC orgs have either at or above 100,000 members.
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07-16-2004, 05:09 PM
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Originally posted by Rudey
I can do a lot of things with numbers and statistics and can create all sorts of financial models and regressions, but the most basic thing of all that you learn is the numbers have to be right. These numbers just aren't right.
I am of the belief that there simply are no numbers for fraternities and sororities. What I mean by that is that numbers are not verifiable at the least and often old and outdated even so. If I am wrong on that I'd like to see the numbers from NIC - not just on sizes but endowments et al.
-Rudey
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I wholeheartedly agree.
What I'd like to also see is retention, GPA, and graduation rates.
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07-16-2004, 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by TSteven
I wholeheartedly agree.
What I'd like to also see is retention, GPA, and graduation rates.
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I present this challenge to anyone. Find us the numbers to any of these. These have to be official numbers and they have to be recent. I have tried to, but never got far.
-Rudey
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07-16-2004, 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by Rudey
I present this challenge to anyone. Find us the numbers to any of these. These have to be official numbers and they have to be recent. I have tried to, but never got far.
-Rudey
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This is a challenge I doubt anyone will take. It would be a huge undertaking and would require all organizations and institutions to participate for it to work. I just don't see that happening.
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07-16-2004, 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by TSteven
This is a challenge I doubt anyone will take. It would be a huge undertaking and would require all organizations and institutions to participate for it to work. I just don't see that happening.
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See I was hoping NIC or one of the umbrella orgs would be willing to do it or had the numbers and then shared. But again, in all honesty, I don't believe in this ever occuring.
-Rudey
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07-16-2004, 05:21 PM
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Tri Delta has:
134 chapters right now -- 138 by next spring
350 alum chapters
210,000+ initiated members -- that was the last count I heard, I'm sure it's more by now
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07-16-2004, 05:23 PM
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Technically, we have +/- 197 chapters but about +/-86 that are dormant. The good thing however, is that Sigma Kappa is now going to not only expand & open new chapters, we are also going to recolonize at many of the dormant ones too!
This information is as accurate as of 2001 so of course the numbers have changed. I'm just not sure as to how much it's changed. I'll have to ask HQ.
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